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West Remy
10-24-2005, 04:23 PM
Preseason Game 8

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Cleveland Cavaliers (5-2) @ Boston Celtics (2-5)

Wednesday, October 26, 2005
7:30pm ET
Radio: WTAM 1100
Fleet Center, Boston, MA

Head Coaches
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Mike Brown / Doc Rivers

Probable Staters
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Eric Snow / Dan Dickau

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Aleksandar Pavlovic / Paul Pierce

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LeBron James / Ricky Davis

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Alan Henderson / Al Jefferson

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Zydrunas Ilgauskas / Raef LaFrentz

Cleveland Cavaliers Bench
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Damon Jones / Luke Jackson / Donyell Marshall

Boston Celtics Bench
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Delonte West / Tony Allen / Gerald Green / Brian Scalabrine / Mark Blount

Cleveland Cavaliers' Notes

* The team is looking better since LeBronís return, but needs to pick up their inconsistent offense and continue playing solid, rotating defense.

* Hitting foul shots and limiting turnovers will be key, as when Cleveland controls both, they are in the driverís seat, controlling their destiny (rarely losing).

* Luke Jackson seems streaky thus far behind the line, therefore, it would be encouraging to see him turn it on and break the slump.

* Cleveland has won games thus far in scrappy fashion. Coach Brown is more concerned with defense than offense for the time being. But as the regular season approaches, being able to execute sets becomes more important.

* Damon Jones woke up last game, nailing a barrage of 3-balls. LeBron and Z will be counting on Jones to keep Boston honest.

Boston Celtics' Notes

* Boston has had recent struggles offensively (when Pierce is off, the team cannot produce points).

* With Tony Allenís legal situation making news, is the team focused on basketball or distracted by the negative press?

* As Bostonís preseason plays out, the crowded backcourt should be watched. The Celtics have many options with Dickau, Banks, and West. In years past, Banks gave the Cavaliers trouble with his hard-nosed defense.

* Gerald Greene is always worth keeping an eye out for the occasional highlight play. The Celtics are considering sending him down to the NBDL, so these preseason games might be the last chance for Greene prove himself.

* Al Jefferson is a young kid who is offensively talented and has a mean streak. Look for him to be active on the glass. For all Jeffersonís talent, he is a very poor defender at times and might find himself being attacked by Henderson and Marshall.

Overview

Nothing like a spirited preseason game against the Celtics. This game is very winnable for the wine and gold. Get Z off to a quick start, establish the shooters and ride the James train. The Celtics will try to outhustle our squad, but if Cleveland matches each furry with equal intensity, victory will be won.

hughes1988
10-24-2005, 08:51 PM
We Are About To Be 6-2 Thats All I Have To Say!!!!

fsqp13
10-24-2005, 11:26 PM
lets match the 6-2 record we got in the preseason last year

fsqp13
10-24-2005, 11:28 PM
it would be nice to see james and davis trash talk again

fsqp13
10-24-2005, 11:30 PM
when the smoke has cleared, it will be cleveland by a cliffhanger

West Remy
10-25-2005, 10:29 PM
Larry Hughes is apparently out, so Sasha will probably start.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 09:42 AM
Starting lineup for the Cavaliers...

Eric Snow
Sasha Pavlovic
LeBron James
Alan Henderson
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Gooden is doubtful for tonight with that sore knee of his and evidentally Coach Brown prefers Marshall off the bench.

Slim Sheedy
10-26-2005, 10:16 AM
im real pumped for tonight, because I have NBA TV and the game is on NBA TV.. i cant wait to watch some Cleveland Cavalier basketball...

West Remy
10-26-2005, 02:36 PM
Starting lineup for the Cavaliers...

Eric Snow
Sasha Pavlovic
LeBron James
Alan Henderson
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Gooden is doubtful for tonight with that sore knee of his and evidentally Coach Brown prefers Marshall off the bench.

Thanks for the info. The bench really looks depleted now for us.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 07:45 PM
Looks like Damon Jones got the start afterall.

I finally get to see some live game action from my Cavaliers.

4-3 Celtics early.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 07:46 PM
LeBron with a strong post up there.

I want to say more of that from the King this year, he's usually a lot bigger then everyone guarding him.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 07:50 PM
Sasha with a strong take, gets fouled, and makes both free throws.

Gotta like that agressiveness.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 07:51 PM
Offense looks awfully helter-skelter still.

15 all with 5:29 left to go in the first quarter.

blackmagicGTI
10-26-2005, 07:53 PM
Zydrunas looks as slow and committing to pumpfakes as ever. He still can't anticipate a LeBron pass. At least he always seems to get to the line.

I can see the help D that Mike Brown wants on some plays, and on some its evident that they don't have it yet.

Not a very pretty quarter so far.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 07:59 PM
Snow playing aggressive, drawing fouls and making his FTs.

Snow looks noticeably slimmer then last year.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:00 PM
Gomes just abused Luke Jackson on the low block, don't like that matchup for the Cavs.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:04 PM
Bad defensive breakdown there.

Easy lob to Blount for a layup. Marshall got beat badly.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:05 PM
Snow drains an 18 footer!

Snow with 7 early points, he's looking very good out there right now.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:05 PM
They just called LeBron for travelling, unbelievable.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:06 PM
Ricky just dominated Luke on the low block, for a layup and the foul.

I don't like Luke covering anyone on the low block.

Dungong
10-26-2005, 08:07 PM
Snow is blowing up! Z has a Luke-like beard going, nice

blackmagicGTI
10-26-2005, 08:08 PM
Help D is coming a little too late and is too easy for the Celtics to split.

E. Snow leading the Cavs with 7 pts. Never a good sign.

cdt
10-26-2005, 08:08 PM
Is this on cable TV?

Dungong
10-26-2005, 08:09 PM
its on NBA TV, and Snow now has 9 points out of the cavs' 29. Lebron has 4 turnovers

Dungong
10-26-2005, 08:10 PM
29-27 cavs up at the end of 1

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:11 PM
Cavs up 29-27 through 1.

blackmagicGTI
10-26-2005, 08:17 PM
Zydrunas you gotta dunk that crap!!! That was the softest layup I have ever seen. You are 7'3" !!!!!

CBBI
10-26-2005, 08:18 PM
Zydrunas you gotta dunk that crap!!! That was the softest layup I have ever seen. You are 7'3" !!!!!

He got the 2.

blackmagicGTI
10-26-2005, 08:22 PM
He got the 2.

Only because the other guy goaltended. It looked like Z was going to leave it short.

Dungong
10-26-2005, 08:31 PM
damon nice outlet to lebron, hopefully a sign of things to come

blackmagicGTI
10-26-2005, 08:32 PM
That was a beautiful outlet. Zendon looked up like he was gonna get the ball and then LeBron just ripped it out of the air and slammed it down.

TyGuy
10-26-2005, 08:53 PM
Zendon has caught two offensive boards off of air balls, those are very tough to get.

CBBI
10-26-2005, 09:04 PM
Will Coach Brown let the starters try and get the lead back, or will he clear out the benches so the fringe players can get one last shot at making the final roster?

cdt
10-26-2005, 09:18 PM
I doubt you will see any of the starters back out maybe Damon and Sasha but no LeBron or Z...

CBBI
10-26-2005, 09:34 PM
Holy shit!

Jahidi White is FAT.

Dungong
10-26-2005, 09:35 PM
Jahidi white in the game, hes as large as advertised

West Remy
10-26-2005, 09:40 PM
White looks even bigger this season than last season (is that even possible).

West Remy
10-26-2005, 09:47 PM
Luke Jackson has hit his last 3 shots in a row, after missing all his earlier attempts. Nice to see him gain a little confidence out there. Cavs up 7.

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 09:52 PM
Buike and Luke on fire!

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 09:55 PM
Kelenna is all over the place. Steals, rebounds, assists. He may not earn a spot, but it sure is not for lack of effort..

West Remy
10-26-2005, 09:56 PM
- Game looking like a summer league match more and more (scappy playing by Cleveland but it is effective).
- Kelenna Azubuike is active, hitting 2 shots (including an "and-1" play).
- Al Jefferson fouled out.
- Sasha nails a 3-ball.
- Celtics call time-out.
- Cavs lead 93-78.

West Remy
10-26-2005, 10:04 PM
- Kelenna nails a 3-ball. Great game for him, looking solid.
- Cavs hit by another 3-second violation (some were good calls but a few were highly questionable).

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 10:05 PM
Three out of four consecutive offensive posessions by Hamilton he has an offensive foul or 3 second violation... He needs to work on this. A lot of mental errors on the center squad. Ekezie seems to be active but has made some boner moves of his own.

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 10:08 PM
Boston has found offense since putting in Justin Reed and Orion Greene

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 10:10 PM
Cleveland Falliing apart at the end. Lots of mental errors, not points in the last four minutes..

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 10:16 PM
Buike turns it over up one with 22 seconds to go.

West Remy
10-26-2005, 10:20 PM
Celtics win. Cleveland collapsed under the press and showed a lack of ballhandling and even willingness to go get the ball (passive, hesistant play).

West Remy
10-26-2005, 10:22 PM
Box Score: Boston 101, Cleveland 100 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AkBYKVCP7pl8FsiDsdPdoRy8vLYF?gid=200 5102602)

TyGuy
10-26-2005, 10:22 PM
Well Ricky Davis looked good leading the game with 15 tommy points.

cdt
10-26-2005, 10:26 PM
Buike looked good with 9 and had some steals and stuff hopefully he finds a way on. LeBron looked impressive as usual can't wait for the season to begin NAWLINS IS DEAD MEAT!

ChicagoCavFan
10-26-2005, 10:27 PM
Quick thoughts on the game, cause I wanna go watch baseball:

almost 80 total free throws - WTF?

clearly, Drew is an integral part of our team.

defensively, we have to get better at defending the quick slant to the hoop - many passes over the defender for an easy lay-up.

Luke pumped in 6 straight points in the 4th, however, I am skeptical of his game - he did it against their 3rd team, and he was the clear Cav leader. He seems to play better when he is the focalpoint - when is the the last option, his game declines. His last attempt to win the game was sloppy at best.

Were the officials trying to make a statement about 3 seconds in the lane?

It is also clear to me that if Z goes down, we are in trouble.

Little Z got no play, unless I missed it...

More happy we got Damon Jones over Dan Dickau - Damon will keep LeBron smiling - Dickau looked like a midget.

CleveRocks
10-26-2005, 10:40 PM
Celtics win. Cleveland collapsed under the press and showed a lack of ballhandling and even willingness to go get the ball (passive, hesistant play).

Scrubs panic, crash in the last 5 minutes. Zendon blows five possesions during that stretch, Ekezie 2, Sasha fouls out trying to (unsuccessfully) stop Justin Reed. Buike has three very dumb turnovers to give Boston a shot. Credit Goes to Reed and Greene as Boston was shut down after Jahidi White left the game, until Reed and O Greene came in, After that it was all Boston.

Also Jahidi White was pretty much useless on the floor.

Ekezie was the best of the three, but that's like saying Moe is a better basketball player than Larry and Shemp.

Don't see how any of these three make the squad.

West Remy
10-26-2005, 10:53 PM
Luke pumped in 6 straight points in the 4th, however, I am skeptical of his game - he did it against their 3rd team, and he was the clear Cav leader. He seems to play better when he is the focalpoint - when is the the last option, his game declines. His last attempt to win the game was sloppy at best.

I will say one thing about Luke, unlike Sasha or Wilks, Luke can handle pressure and bring the ball up (noticed this over the summer league and earlier preseason games). Towards the end, people became scared, didn't move for the ball and if they got it, dribbled like cowards. It's just a preseason game but I got angry watching that. For all of Sasha's athleticism and first step, why didn't he even move an inch to receive the inbounds passes? Or why was Wilks so terrible at the end himself? I question Luke like everybody else but nights like tonight show me he handles the ball better than other guys on this team (Sasha, Wilks).

NarlCavs
10-26-2005, 11:27 PM
4th quarter was basically garbage time. The Cavs has camp invitees and the Celtics had their end of the bench in.
Luke and Sasha have been disappointing in preseason for the most part. I like both these guys and think they have talent and potential but they haven't provided any consistent play on the floor.

I don't know how the Cavs choose among the 3 backup C's brought to camp. Hamilton had some flashes earlier in the preseason but now it's almost choosing from the lesser of 3 evils. White has been very disappointing, especially showing up in poor condition. The spot was probably his but it seems doubtful now. You have to wonder if another C will be brought in to fill that spot.

Cavs have to cut down on turnovers. They're still learning each other and a new system but the TO's are a little out of control.

West Remy
10-26-2005, 11:41 PM
I've noticed Sasha is a drifter and flows but Luke is more active. Sasha can drive and hit the jumper but he tends to pick his moments and sometimes doesn't even really want the ball. In contrast, Luke can park on the perimeter looking for jumpers, but prefers being active and on-the-ball (like ChicagoCavFan noted).

I've always said from day 1 that I'd rather see Marty stick with our team and be our 3rd center. He hasn't played great but the invited centers haven't really played any better themselves. So..

blackmagicGTI
10-27-2005, 12:04 AM
I agree. Sasha seemed very tentative and seemed happier to dump it off to somebody else when he played in the first unit. Rather than drive and kick to Z, he would just dump to Z and then stay at the wing. Sasha can't guard very well.

Luke was more aggressive and got swated on the fast break pass from Lebron but he showed me more than Sasha today. But yeah, Luke was playing best in the scrubs part of the game.

No Drew, no Larry, we needed both. Season is only a week away, get healthy guys.

CleveRocks
10-27-2005, 08:24 AM
I've always said from day 1 that I'd rather see Marty stick with our team and be our 3rd center. He hasn't played great but the invited centers haven't really played any better themselves. So..

I agree Marty Should be third, but who is going to be second? Alan Henderson is a passable power forward, but at center he will not pass muster agianst detroit, Miami and now the Bucks. We need a legit big to rebound, absorb the foul and play swat inside (the role Diop was supposed to bring but never did).

I agree with Narl that we may see an outside big, given the recent lame play of the three stooges..

CBBI
10-27-2005, 09:44 AM
I have to say, I was quite impressed with my first taste of live Cavaliers action.

Coach Brown's defensive system is very very good. There is a lot of help, a lot of movement, a lot of defensive switching and trapping. He has been hammering his defensive system all during camp and its showing. This Cavs played better defense than any Cavs team that I've seen since Fratello. The only problem was that our best defensive wing player in Larry Hughes was missing so we had two bench guys in Sasha Pavlovic and Luke Jackson out there and they got toasted repeatedly by Pierce and Ricky. Everyone needs to remember, in the first meeting between the Celtics and Cavaliers, Hughes completely shutdown Ricky D to the tune of 8 points in 27 minutes. If you plug Hughes in there, his man to man defense is tad overrated, but still very good, bring Newble and eventually Varejao back off of the bench and our defensive will be very good. Those are our three best defensive players easily and will make a big difference.

All in all, considering the fact we were missing two starters and two other rotation guys, I was pretty pleased with the Cavaliers, especially the new defensive system.

LyXo
10-27-2005, 11:48 AM
0 blocks? crappy.

LeBron 16 points? crappy.

Backup centers? crappy.

Schmeh. It's preseason. Move along, sir.

Jimmy
10-27-2005, 12:30 PM
i turned on the tv at like 12 last night and this was just starting, but i fell asleep..it was a replay...but atleast i saw them warming up ;)