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The Common Man
07-06-2009, 10:58 PM
ANOTHER TWITTER REPORT!


DrewGoodenThe teams I wouldn't mind going to, Spurs, Cav's, Magic, and Golden St! What do you guys think?
28 minutes ago from TwitterFon

I know a lot of people aren't big fans of Drews from his time in Cleveland, but I for one wouldn't necessarily mind this signing if it came at a low price. I would imagine that Drew wouldn't have as big of a role as he did with us his first time around (starting power forward).

I know i'll get hated on for saying this, but he was our best offensive post player when he was here and would have been for the past season and a half (more of an indictment of our post players than praise of Drew). He's also a hell of an offensive rebounder.

I'm not saying throw the full MLE or anything like that on Drew, but I think that he could benefit our team in a positive way in a limited role.

Bring on the hate and face palms

:tomato:

BorntobeCLE
07-06-2009, 10:59 PM
hahaha. yes, split the MLE between Gooden and Wally Z!

GilbertForPres
07-06-2009, 11:00 PM
I can't see why he wouldn't want to come back, but I can see why we wouldn't want him back. I certainly don't want him back.

Cleveland56
07-06-2009, 11:00 PM
He wants to play for the Cav's!

MYoung23
07-06-2009, 11:02 PM
http://www.depressedfan.com/img/drewgooden030209.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOKK8mAkiUI

Walter White
07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
F U TWITTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ClevelandOwnz
07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
lol the Cav's ... well we still know Drew Gooden has a very small IQ and brain.

BUT SAYING THAT .. when i saw his twitter i sent this back to him along the lines of this..

"you really think bron is gonna on 100% terms with you after you told DeShawn something Bron said about him" -- somethin like that.

The Oi
07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Yeah, I'd like to play for the Cavs too but it doesn't mean they should pursue me.

IWITNESSEDGAME5
07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
I think he's a solid role player who could definitely contribute off the bench. Would he take the BAE?

Corey
07-06-2009, 11:03 PM
He'll change his mind in a couple days after he posts another interesting Tweet that gets the forums talking.

GOODEN WATCH 09!

Cleveland56
07-06-2009, 11:04 PM
For the Cav's he would take the BAE.

PIP
07-06-2009, 11:05 PM
Sorry, Dickbeat, but the borders are closed... Return to sender..

http://www.aweisbecker.com/dsp/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/5.jpg

Smooth
07-06-2009, 11:05 PM
We already had this discussion like the week ago and the answer was fuck no..

And the answer this week is fuck no..

And the answer will forever be fuck no..

KCOTT
07-06-2009, 11:07 PM
if he wouldn't mind filling the lorenzen wright role for cheap

Kiddo
07-06-2009, 11:08 PM
We already had this discussion like the week ago and the answer was fuck no..

And the answer this week is fuck no..

And the answer will forever be fuck no..




I like the way you think but he would make a good 15th player. haha

mult336
07-06-2009, 11:09 PM
for the bae, talent wise this is the best we will prolly get without a trade.... Face it, there just ainy much left out there and i think Shaq + depth moves can easily be enough. MLE i still think we can do a bit better than gooden.

Walter White
07-06-2009, 11:09 PM
if he wouldn't mind filling the lorenzen wright role for cheap

At least Lorenzen is a good sport on the bench. Drew will probably call Deshawn Stevenson the moment he gets here and cause trouble :chuckles:

ClevelandOwnz
07-06-2009, 11:09 PM
If Drew Gooden had a good basketball IQ -- he'd seriously be sucha good player. I mean a 18 and 10 guy. But he is so low of an IQ it really hurts him so much -- i dont know why he just cant carry what the coach says from the bench to the court within 5 minutes. He has the memory of a goldfish! I swear it!

Taki
07-06-2009, 11:10 PM
I'd rather start him than Varejao though.

demondeacs13
07-06-2009, 11:10 PM
Well...you asked for them.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj51/crys77/polar-bear-face-palm_thumbnail1.jpg

http://www.motifake.com/demotivational-poster/0808/jesus-facepalm-facepalm-jesus-epic-demotivational-poster-1218659828.jpg

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/3/22/633733338747298060-facepalm.jpg


And everyone's favorite:

http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/r4796/face-palm.jpg

chrisrich91
07-06-2009, 11:14 PM
W&G has said many times that LeBron does not want Drew anywhere near this team ever again.

Combine that with his piss-poor basketball IQ and the answer is....

Fuck no.

Walter White
07-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Channing Frye>>>>>>>>>>>Drew Gooden

Taki
07-06-2009, 11:16 PM
If he sports this beard I will take him back
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/815/drewgoodenbeard.jpg

1B4IGO
07-06-2009, 11:17 PM
Maybe he could come back and grow another little hair patch tail again.

I've got fenceposts with higher IQ's than Gooden.

covert_op
07-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Fuck Yeah! Lets do it! :werd:

-KingofKings23-
07-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Hell to the Fucking NO!

His basketball IQ is lower than rat shit!

KIisKing
07-06-2009, 11:31 PM
I'd rather sign Ronald McDonald.

covert_op
07-06-2009, 11:35 PM
Its so boring to hear people repeat the same cliche's over and over. How about some critical thinking and original thoughts.

Bison11
07-06-2009, 11:39 PM
Thats too bad if LeBron said he doesnt want him back. I really liked Drew and I thought Mike B did not play him enough. I think he would be great coming off the bench next to Z again or Shaq. I dont think he will come here, but I would sure like him back.

liquidfire
07-06-2009, 11:40 PM
If mcdeyss isnt available who else would you want at PF from free agency?

dont say kleiza, streth pf's dont work and he sucks.

-Akronite-
07-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Its so boring to hear people repeat the same cliche's over and over. How about some critical thinking and original thoughts.

Yeah, Drew may be dumb as a pile of rocks, not have the skills to defend... well anybody, and can't really fill a need we have longterm if we make signing for Frye and Andy... but he... he... he, can... JUST QUIT WITH THE CLICHES!

thecrowning
07-06-2009, 11:44 PM
Drew has a low bball IQ, short attention span, but he has consistent rebounding, and a jumpshot.

Do i want him? Hell no. Would the Cavs end up with him, I don't think it is really that farfetched of an idea.

Cratylus
07-06-2009, 11:44 PM
We already had this discussion like the week ago and the answer was fuck no..

And the answer this week is fuck no..

And the answer will forever be fuck no..


It's gotten to the point where I'm finding myself giving out rep to posters simply because they aren't noobs!

kookoo
07-06-2009, 11:51 PM
It's gotten to the point where I'm finding myself giving out rep to posters simply because they aren't noobs!

So not that often right? I really wish we could do a clear sweep of new members. More often than not, they bring nothing to the table.

blank964
07-06-2009, 11:51 PM
As someone already said Lebron doesn't care for him and we all know this year is about keeping Bron...yeah let's bring Drew in :confused:

BigErieCavsFan
07-06-2009, 11:54 PM
Drew was not nearly as bad as most seem to want to remember. If we lose Andy and don't pick up another better than MLE PF in trade, I would certainly consider Drew for part of the MLE.

InBoobieWeTrust
07-06-2009, 11:58 PM
I don't want him, but if he's there for cheap, and LeBron gives the thumps up, I wouldn't kill myself over it.

bostoncrybabies
07-06-2009, 11:59 PM
lets get him! he cant make us worse

Trill Cosby
07-06-2009, 11:59 PM
Its so boring to hear people repeat the same cliche's over and over. How about some critical thinking and original thoughts.






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jlegg21
07-07-2009, 12:06 AM
If LeBron does this... :thumbup: ... he'll be here.

If LeBron does this... :thumbdown: ... he wont.

Sometimes it's that simple.

thecrowning
07-07-2009, 12:09 AM
If LeBron does this... :thumbup: ... he'll be here.

If LeBron does this... :thumbdown: ... he wont.

Sometimes it's that simple.

Well, if what Artest said is true, then it's really not so simple:(

Heisenberg
07-07-2009, 12:10 AM
I really dont want this guy. Somebody please start a Gooden Watch '09 thread...

jlegg21
07-07-2009, 12:14 AM
Well, I was referring to management... as in, if he tells Ferry to go ahead, we'll pursue D-student Drew...

Artest has wanted to play in LA his whole career... we're all guilty for getting our hopes up there.

Gooden couldnt be more attainable if he tried... which he is of course.

Powerslave
07-07-2009, 12:17 AM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e104/PieceOfMind666/awhellnaw.jpg

Man, we're all slowly descending into madness.

Walter White
07-07-2009, 12:18 AM
Lets lock this thread for several reasons
1. Its Drew Gooden
2. He never specifically said anything about joining Cle...just listed them as a possible destination
3.Its from Twitter
4.See number one for further reassurance

SoundBreaker
07-07-2009, 12:23 AM
Gooden > Frye.

gijimbo
07-07-2009, 12:40 AM
I don't want him, but if he's there for cheap, and LeBron gives the thumps up, I wouldn't kill myself over it.

i agree completely.. but yeah.. unfortunately some on this board WOULD kill themselves over it :P

JayP146
07-07-2009, 12:43 AM
Gooden's better than Frye, and he IS a stretch PF, but do I want him back?

Not really...

Cavatt
07-07-2009, 12:53 AM
I HAVE NEVER SAID THIS ON THIS BOARD. I really love that dude. I would not be disappointed if he came back. I like his game, I just don't like his defense. IMO he is like barely a step below Charlie Villanueva. He is actually the type of guy we could use next to Shaq. I love how he looks like wimpy from Popeye and is a nonconformist with his really gross hairstyles/beardstyles. Dude is seriously misunderstood. Is there any way we can get defense out of him? I have no idea. That's why I never talk about about how he is my favorite former cav of the Lebron era.

I liked Mcguiness too. We forget sometimes that we occasionally had good scorers here before Mo.

covert_op
07-07-2009, 01:01 AM
The thing that worries me the most about drew is that he STILL has that lingering groin problem.

I think he wants to win though, and people who want to win overcome deficiencies and weaknesses in order to meet there goals.

Lee
07-07-2009, 01:10 AM
Would drew come back and accept his new role on the bench? That would be the big question. He is a usefull player that poses alot of offensive talent. His lack of anything resembling b-ball iq prevents you from starting him or giving him more than 20 mins a game, but damon jones won a ring in miami with shaq and wade playing the exact same role from the sg/pg position. If he comes cheap, lebron says its ok, and MB doesnt put a pistol to his head...then I say defintely think about...even if the stars align though I would have a hard tome saying yes.

While were at it, anyone want to see Albert Belle make a comeback for the Indians?

liquidfire
07-07-2009, 01:12 AM
i bet thats not even his twitter

Fursdon
07-07-2009, 01:16 AM
Drew Gooden wants back in Cleveland


....did he get banned from the city or something?

Otherwise, why would he have to ask? To stop people from booing him back out of town?

majorpayne27
07-07-2009, 01:23 AM
The only way I want Gooden back is if we can somehow find a way to sign both Wally and Larry Hughes.

jonmchugh
07-07-2009, 01:23 AM
lets just say that we did get drew gooden, would he start over av? i probablhy would assume start him over av and have him come off the bench. i wouldn't be against bringing the guy back if it was just for the bae.

bzim09
07-07-2009, 01:32 AM
With the way we are jinxing everything lately..................SOMEONE MAKE GOODEN WATCH THREAD NOW

B Mac
07-07-2009, 02:12 AM
The Drew Gooden Show back in Cleveland??......


Only if he's the 15th man.

Jlans8
07-07-2009, 02:20 AM
Yeah only for the vet min and if he sits on the bench 24/7. Would be a great signing for that value.:)

NaySmith
07-07-2009, 02:29 AM
OK, I've made up my mind.

If Gooden is not far off from Villanueva and Frye, then I'm happy we're not getting those dudes.

Storm Sutherland
07-07-2009, 02:47 AM
Settling on Gooden would be an Epic Fail for the FO, IMO. JK. LMAO. BRB.

TTYL


I brought nothing to this thread.

Your welcome,

Stormtrooper

Luffy
07-07-2009, 02:54 AM
I'd say no to Drew Gooden. Cavs and Gooden need to stay apart. Come on Ferry, sign us a combination of Matt Barnes, Josh Childress, and/or Grant Hill.

TheBigLeBronski
07-07-2009, 03:00 AM
I would offer Gooden the MLE to go play for someone else.
Here's somethin to think about Drew, you just played for 3 teams in under 3 months.

Joel
07-07-2009, 03:01 AM
Anybody that spells it "Cav's" deserves to be shunned not just by the Cavs, but to be shunned by all of society.

The Shoulder
07-07-2009, 03:05 AM
I dont want him, nobody does....but he cant be anyworse than sasha, im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad sasha's bum ass is outta cleveland

Mdog1
07-07-2009, 03:12 AM
LOL

godfather
07-07-2009, 03:35 AM
I would offer Gooden the MLE to go play for someone else.
Here's somethin to think about Drew, you just played for 3 teams in under 3 months.

"I didn't even know Elvis was from Memphis. I thought he was from Tennessee." - Drew Gooden


I doubt he remembers the cities he played in. He probably thought Cleveland was in Poland.

imahustla
07-07-2009, 03:39 AM
Channing Frye>>>>>>>>>>>Drew Gooden
LOL...are you kidding me? Channing Frye? As stupid and soft as Drew is, Frye is 1,000 times softer. I watched this guy play for the Blazers over the past two years, and he is the biggest pussy on the floor whenever he's in the game.

I mean, seriously...dude never sniffed the floor during the playoffs, even when the Blazers were getting their ass beat soundly by the Rockets. His numbers have gone down considerably -- CONSIDERABLY -- over the past three years since his rookie contract.

Yes, Drew Gooden sucks, but you can't seriously claim to watch basketball and know two shits about the game if you tell me that Channing Frye is better than Drew Gooden. I don't want Drew Gooden back on the Cavs, but I sure as hell don't want Channing Frye near the Cavs, either.

Seeing news that the Cavs were even wasting their time talking to Frye ruined my day. The dude's name is CHANNING. Think about that.

KB
07-07-2009, 06:23 AM
While I do agree Frye is soft, which was the biggest knock on him since before he was drafted. One of his biggest strengths was his intelligence and still is, he is not dumb, not dumb at all. You realize as a starter Frey averages between 10-15 ppg and 6-10 rbs a game while shooting 45-50% from the field, I'd take that from a PF any day. I'd take him in heartbeat over Gooden , Gooden is terrible, at least Frye tries to play defense.

bucksprime99
07-07-2009, 07:24 AM
Meh.

I'd take him as our backup PF, or the 5th big off the bench. Could do a heck of a lot worse.

Not that this will happen, obviously.

QuadrupleDouble
07-07-2009, 08:29 AM
1.) Drew is correct in his use of the apostraphe in Cav's because it is shortened from Cavaliers. Why he is even getting knocked for that I have no idea.

2.) He isn't that bad. He's not a good weak side defender, but we could use his size, rebounding, and shooting. He still wouldn't have been able to guard Rashard, but he's solid for the MLE.

If Popo would take a chance on him, I don't see why fans shouldn't. Everyone was high on Charlie V and the only thing he had oer Drew was range. Drew is a better rebounder and just as bad a defender.

ssopata
07-07-2009, 08:46 AM
What happens when Gooden loses his focus a few minutes after he enters a game and doesn't know where to be on D? What happens after Gooden makes his first 15 footer and continues to chuck them up? What happens the first time Drew fallls asleep and LBJ's pass skips off Gooden's forehead and ends up in Loudville?

Been there before, don't want to be there again.

Sorry Drew

cav jvl
07-07-2009, 08:47 AM
Drew had his chance and muffed it. Move on to Frye.

MattyJames
07-07-2009, 08:52 AM
I dont want him, nobody does....but he cant be anyworse than sasha, im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad sasha's bum ass is outta cleveland

Thanks for the Avatar. :thumbup:

While i wouldnt go as far as to say that I'm a huge fan of Drew, I'm also not going to follow the trendy heard and bash him/ call him stupid everytime his name comes up in a conversation. If you think Drew doesnt have skills, you dont know basketball.

OF COURSE Drew's "basketball IQ" is questionable. This much is true. But to think that the man isnt loyal, hard working and a gifted athlete is just ridiculous. There is room for him in our rotation, especially if he is a 2nd or 3rd option at the 4. When he brainfarts, take him out. Drew can beast on any given night.

Green Lantern
07-07-2009, 08:54 AM
http://www.depressedfan.com/img/drewgooden030209.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOKK8mAkiUI


Thats it for me..I don't need to add anything to that..:chuckles::chuckles::chuckles:

Brandname
07-07-2009, 08:59 AM
I wouldn't mind, as long as we don't have to pay him or put him out on the floor or devote a roster spot to him.

ssopata
07-07-2009, 09:00 AM
While i wouldnt go as far as to say that I'm a huge fan of Drew, I'm also not going to follow the trendy heard and bash him/ call him stupid everytime his name comes up in a conversation. If you think Drew doesnt have skills, you dont know basketball.

OF COURSE Drew's "basketball IQ" is questionable. This much is true. But to think that the man isnt loyal, hard working and a gifted athlete is just ridiculous. There is room for him in our rotation, especially if he is a 2nd or 3rd option at the 4. When he brainfarts, take him out. Drew can beast on any given night.

Not questioning his skills but when does Gooden put all his skills to work at the same time? It's more his consistency that I question. He dribbles the ball off his foot or lets a pass slip off his hands, gets the "glare" from LBJ, then he goes into a shell. It just seems to me that Gooden doesn't put out 100% effort every time. That's not what this team needs, even for a 2nd or 3rd option.
JMO

BruceBowensFoot
07-07-2009, 09:17 AM
Pardon my French, but fuck him.

MattyJames
07-07-2009, 09:20 AM
Not questioning his skills but when does Gooden put all his skills to work at the same time? It's more his consistency that I question. He dribbles the ball off his foot or lets a pass slip off his hands, gets the "glare" from LBJ, then he goes into a shell. It just seems to me that Gooden doesn't put out 100% effort every time. That's not what this team needs, even for a 2nd or 3rd option.
JMO


....And that's why neither of us get paid millions to be a coach. You can have Varejao's flopping, no offense having, 10 million a year wanting ass.....I'll take Drew

gosk
07-07-2009, 09:20 AM
id take him again. whatever.

Splitz
07-07-2009, 09:22 AM
With the wierd facial hair and all he's kind of like a lower key Dennis Rodman without the basketball IQ. No thanks.

ssopata
07-07-2009, 09:40 AM
....And that's why neither of us get paid millions to be a coach. You can have Varejao's flopping, no offense having, 10 million a year wanting ass.....I'll take Drew

Never said I wanted AV either but at least w/ Varejao I know what I get. A majority of the time he'll be in the right place on D. That's not a guarantee w/ Drew. AV will cut to the basket for passes, which he'll catch regularly, and convert easy buckets. Can't say the same of Gooden from his years here before.


With that said, I don't want AV at a $10 million/yr cost.

again, JMO

Sea
07-07-2009, 09:51 AM
speaking of twitter. Is THE_MO_WILLIAMS really Mo Williams?

The Common Man
07-07-2009, 09:54 AM
FWIW his tweets indicate he's heading to Orlando today, so hopefully he's as bad as you all pretend he is, because he could come back to burn our ass big time

Green Lantern
07-07-2009, 09:58 AM
Drew never burned us after he was traded and we faced him several times..he is no player I would ever be concerned about..and he is the player I said he is several years ago..

ssopata
07-07-2009, 10:02 AM
I'd be more concerned about this team LETTING Drew Gooden burn them.

Splitz
07-07-2009, 10:08 AM
If I recall correctly he actually did come back to play pretty well against us those first few games after he was traded to Chicago. They took us out like 3 times after that trade but I think Drew got injured and didn't play some of them.

Green Lantern
07-07-2009, 10:15 AM
If he was that good ..SA would have locked him up..it's the mental aspect of his game that is frustrating..no way does Lebron or Mr.Potato Head want to deal with him again.

susliker23
07-07-2009, 10:37 AM
He'll change his mind in a couple days after he posts another interesting Tweet that gets the forums talking.

GOODEN WATCH 09!

We need to stop making threads with those titles its bad freaking luck going all the way back to amare, i dont think we made one for shaq and he was traded here. HAHA

bucksprime99
07-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Dennis Green articulates my feelings about Drew Gooden...just change "they are" to "he is" and "they were" to "he was"....

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The Common Man
07-07-2009, 11:37 AM
Dennis Green articulates my feelings about Drew Gooden...just change "they are" to "he is" and "they were" to "he was"....

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that's a stretch...

The Common Man
07-15-2009, 06:04 PM
new tweet


DrewGoodenWould you Cav's fans want me back?
8 minutes ago from web

TheBigLeBronski
07-15-2009, 06:06 PM
I thought this thread died for a reason.
We traded you for a reason Drew. Stop asking to come back.

InBoobieWeTrust
07-15-2009, 06:07 PM
Like I said earlier.

If he wants to play for virtually nothing and LeBron is okay with it, bring him back.

dankosu3
07-15-2009, 07:09 PM
Dude played here for how many years and he spells it Cav's?!?! He must be as dumb as everyone says...or maybe he just thinks that the Cavs jerseys were always misspelled while he was here and that was always a missing apostrophe...

AMC
07-15-2009, 07:11 PM
AMC31@DrewGooden I would welcome you back as long as you dont talk to that idiot deshawna stevenson

:chuckles:

Funny Man Rocco
07-15-2009, 07:19 PM
:chuckles:

A simple "no" would suffice.

Splitz
07-15-2009, 07:23 PM
Take your hideous facial hair elsewhere Drew.

Benedict_Boozer
07-15-2009, 07:24 PM
I'd take Drew if LBJ signed off on it. I don't dislike him as much as most others on here. I'd have my concerns though (namely team defense and JJ's development - he needs an opportunity to play)

MYoung23
07-15-2009, 07:34 PM
new tweet

DrewGoodenWould you Cav's fans want me back?
8 minutes ago from web



http://www.pleaselink.me/_/myconfinedspace/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2009/01/obama-aw-hell-naw-500x319.jpg

GilbertForPres
07-15-2009, 07:34 PM
:chuckles:

Did he answer you back?

chrisrich91
07-15-2009, 07:42 PM
I would love W&G to come in here and confirm LeBron's true feelings about Drew.

If LeBron isn't as pissed at him as was stated in the past, he'd do as well as Haslem did with Shaq in Miami, basically because Drew and Haslem are one in the same.

But I CLEARLY remember someone saying that LeBron hates him now.

BigErieCavsFan
07-15-2009, 08:20 PM
Another thing I hate to admit and try not to think about, but I liked Drew!
I mean, he's nowhere near as bad as RCF makes him out to be. Sure he is a little dingy and missed a few defensive assiignments, but he always seemed to to have a lot of good qualities too. From chraracter (effort/down to earth/willing to accept role...) to talent (rebounding/shooting/even low post presence), he has a lot to offer if his groin injury is healed and LeBron can forgive and forget...

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 08:43 PM
Dude played here for how many years and he spells it Cav's?!?! He must be as dumb as everyone says...or maybe he just thinks that the Cavs jerseys were always misspelled while he was here and that was always a missing apostrophe...

The apostrophe is correct, our jerseys are not. Knock him for anything else, but don't knock a man's grammar when he's using it correctly.

Cavs means nothing, Cav's is short for Cav(alier)s.

I don't really think either is wrong as nobody should be commenting on it, but if you're going to make a statement about it, it's always best to be on the right side.

mach10
07-15-2009, 09:09 PM
I like basketball players who can get serious about basketball.

I don't think that's Drew Gooden.

Triplethreat
07-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Take your hideous facial hair elsewhere Drew.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2007/08/gooden_patch_tz_180.jpg



:puke:




Take the patch elsewhere too. I still have nightmares about that.

Scrote Squad
07-15-2009, 09:36 PM
The apostrophe is correct, our jerseys are not. Knock him for anything else, but don't knock a man's grammar when he's using it correctly.

Cavs means nothing, Cav's is short for Cav(alier)s.

I don't really think either is wrong as nobody should be commenting on it, but if you're going to make a statement about it, it's always best to be on the right side.

False. A contraction is used when combining two words into a shorter one. Some examples might be: does/not = doesn't, is/not = isn't.
Last I checked, Cav and aliers aren't two separate words. It's Cavs.

speedyd718
07-15-2009, 09:37 PM
i think we should sign barnes and gooden, and call it an offseason.

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 09:52 PM
False. A contraction is used when combining two words into a shorter one. Some examples might be: does/not = doesn't, is/not = isn't.
Last I checked, Cav and aliers aren't two separate words. It's Cavs.

You are correct and incorrect at the same time. I know it's confusing.

You are correct in the fact of how an apostrophe is used in a contraction; however, you are incorrect as what we are talking about is an ABBREVIATION.

Nice try though.

I myself don't have perfect grammar, but then again, I don't run around knocking people for it.

MoFlo
07-15-2009, 09:53 PM
False. A contraction is used when combining two words into a shorter one. Some examples might be: does/not = doesn't, is/not = isn't.
Last I checked, Cav and aliers aren't two separate words. It's Cavs.

exactly.. Cavs is short for Cavaliers.. which means, you don't add an apostrophe..


I would love W&G to come in here and confirm LeBron's true feelings about Drew.

If LeBron isn't as pissed at him as was stated in the past, he'd do as well as Haslem did with Shaq in Miami, basically because Drew and Haslem are one in the same.

But I CLEARLY remember someone saying that LeBron hates him now.

I think W&G has come out and said that exact thing.. that LeBron doesn't want Drew back anywhere near this team.. I'll try to look for it, but I'm almost positive..

He simply wouldn't fit.. yes, I know he has a good mid-range J & he's a very underrated offensive player..

While we've always been a defensive team, we've taken the next step into an elite defensive team w/out him..

Anybody that wants him now would be the 1st ones screaming at the T.V when he makes a bonehead play at least once a game & misses his rotations on defense..

The talent is there, he just cannot grasp the system..

Count me in as a guy that doesn't want to see that again

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 09:58 PM
[QUOTE=MoFloDeepintheQ;580005]exactly.. Cavs is short for Cavaliers.. which means, you don't add an apostrophe..



Wrong again. That is why you add an apostrophe. It is because it is abbreviated.

I'd look it up, but I know that I'm right so I'm not going to waste my time. Some of you that obviously don't know might want to investigate what I'm telling you. You just might learn something.

Edit:

My wife is on the phone with my mother-in-law, who just so happens to be a published author and English professor at a prestegious college near Columbus, and she has informed me that I am correct.

Also, fuck everyone that has posted about his apostrophe use on a twitter account and making me give out English lessons instead of talking basketball.;)

bob2the2nd
07-15-2009, 10:02 PM
http://www.journalismcareers.com/gfx/apostropheposter.jpg

just for some 'clarification'

um to contribute to the thread... um.. i wouldnt mind drew as a back up he can create his own offense, but lebron better be willing to agree

TheNewEra
07-15-2009, 10:05 PM
Lets call it offseason with rodney carney and joe smith. I think carney could be explosvie off bench, we need long athletic wingman. And he can shoot 3 ball pretty well. This past year he averaged 7pts and shot 42% and 35% from 3pt.

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QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 10:06 PM
http://www.journalismcareers.com/gfx/apostropheposter.jpg

just for some 'clarification'

um to contribute to the thread... um.. i wouldnt mind drew as a back up he can create his own offense, but lebron better be willing to agree

LOL, didn't really clarify the usage we're discussing, but still hilarious.

dankosu3
07-15-2009, 10:12 PM
Maybe you're right about the apostrophe use, but when have you honestly seen someone other than Drew type Cav's? Kind of like I've never seen Buckeyes cut down to Buck's (only seen Bucks).

Go Buck's!

bob2the2nd
07-15-2009, 10:16 PM
LOL, didn't really clarify the usage we're discussing, but still hilarious.

http://ncowie.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/angry-flower-guide-to-its.gif

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

MoFlo
07-15-2009, 10:18 PM
[QUOTE=MoFloDeepintheQ;580005]exactly.. Cavs is short for Cavaliers.. which means, you don't add an apostrophe..



Wrong again. That is why you add an apostrophe. It is because it is abbreviated.

I'd look it up, but I know that I'm right so I'm not going to waste my time. Some of you that obviously don't know might want to investigate what I'm telling you. You just might learn something.

Edit:

My wife is on the phone with my mother-in-law, who just so happens to be a published author and English professor at a prestegious college near Columbus, and she has informed me that I am correct.

Also, fuck everyone that has posted about his apostrophe use on a twitter account and making me give out English lessons instead of talking basketball.;)

1st of all, you didn't have to give out any kind of lesson to anybody.. you chose to.. to be an ass, apparently

2nd of all, you should probably let the team know that clevelandcavs.com is wrong..

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 10:20 PM
Maybe you're right about the apostrophe use, but when have you honestly seen someone other than Drew type Cav's? Kind of like I've never seen Buckeyes cut down to Buck's (only seen Bucks).

Go Buck's!

Like I said a few posts earlier, I don't really care as I think either way is ok, but my argument is that he shouldn't be knocked for using proper grammar.

An apostrophe is not only used in contractions such as don't and can't, or when denoting posession as in Drew's, but also when commiting ommisions or abbreviations such as 'til for until. Like I said, I don't really care about whether it is used or unused, just don't knock a guy for using it properly.

The fact that this is even being argued doesn't reflect well on our education system. Looks like I'll have to pony up for private schools.

Mdog1
07-15-2009, 10:22 PM
Lets sign Drew!!!!!!! Then lets get iverson, trade LeBron for Paul Pierce, trade Shaq for garnett, and then sign Marbury so we can have the most douchey team in NBA history.

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 10:23 PM
[QUOTE=QuadrupleDouble;580015]

1st of all, you didn't have to give out any kind of lesson to anybody.. you chose to.. to be an ass, apparently

2nd of all, you should probably let the team know that clevelandcavs.com is wrong..

So I'm an ass because I'm refuting false arguments from yourself and others?

Sorry if I came off as a dickhead, but you guys are wrong and I'd just take it as a new piece of information to keep locked away. I learn something new every day and I don't think someone is a dick when they impart that iformation.

Maybe I could have been a little nicer in my approach, but maybe some other people should look it up before telling me I'm wrong.:rolleyes:

MoFlo
07-15-2009, 10:23 PM
Maybe you're right about the apostrophe use, but when have you honestly seen someone other than Drew type Cav's? Kind of like I've never seen Buckeyes cut down to Buck's (only seen Bucks).

Go Buck's!

Go Knick's :confused: :thumbdown

KI4MVP
07-15-2009, 10:29 PM
You are correct and incorrect at the same time. I know it's confusing.

You are correct in the fact of how an apostrophe is used in a contraction; however, you are incorrect as what we are talking about is an ABBREVIATION.

Nice try though.

I myself don't have perfect grammar, but then again, I don't run around knocking people for it.

a single player is a Cav, short for being a Cavalier. The players are cavs, the plural form of cav. The s is there simply to make it plural, there is no apostrophe.

As for Drew, I'm with those who say if he'll come cheap and LeBron is okay with it, sign him. He makes you pull your hair out because he could be so much better and his basketball IQ holds him back, but he's certainly quite a bit better than the typical season rental backup big we bring in (Lorenzen Wright, Dwayne Jones, Scot Pollard, etc.). We know he's unlikely to be in the game in crunch time, and he does have his moments.

Person A
07-15-2009, 10:32 PM
An apostrophe is not only used in contractions such as don't and can't, or when denoting posession as in Drew's, but also when commiting ommisions or abbreviations such as 'til for until. Like I said, I don't really care about whether it is used or unused, just don't knock a guy for using it properly.
Correct.

However, it is not correct to use apostrophes for plurals. A "Cav" is simply a short, and one could argue slang, term for a "Cavalier". The correct plural form of Cav, as in "more than one Cav", is Cavs.

The only time it is considered acceptable to use an apostrophe for a plural is when dealing with single letters or numbers. For example: A's (as in Oakland A's) is actually grammatically correct.

Thunder
07-15-2009, 10:33 PM
I'll stick with Cavs. Cav's sounds weird.

bob2the2nd
07-15-2009, 10:39 PM
I'll stick with Cavs. Cav's sounds weird.

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

:doh:

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 10:42 PM
Correct.

However, it is not correct to use apostrophes for plurals. A "Cav" is simply a short, and one could argue slang, term for a "Cavalier". The correct plural form of Cav, as in "more than one Cav", is Cavs.

The only time it is considered acceptable to use an apostrophe for a plural is when dealing with single letters or numbers. For example: A's (as in Oakland A's) is actually grammatically correct.

It has nothing to do with plurals.

A's is also correct because they are ommiting the "thletics". You just unknowingly proved my point. If the word was Cav then you are correct that the plural would be Cavs, but since the word is Cavalier, the correct form is Cavaliers.

I understand the use of slang and I don't even have a problem with using Cavs. As I've stated NUMEROUS times in this thread, what I have a problem with is giving him shit for actually knowing his grammatical rules.

johnnycake44022
07-15-2009, 10:44 PM
Cav's = :gayfite: ..........gramatically correct or not

No offense to our gay realcavsfans

Salem
07-15-2009, 10:44 PM
[QUOTE=MoFloDeepintheQ;580057]

So I'm an ass because I'm refuting false arguments from yourself and others?

Sorry if I came off as a dickhead, but you guys are wrong and I'd just take it as a new piece of information to keep locked away. I learn something new every day and I don't think someone is a dick when they impart that iformation.

Maybe I could have been a little nicer in my approach, but maybe some other people should look it up before telling me I'm wrong.:rolleyes:

I could be wrong, but this is the way I understand it: "Cav" is the singular abbreviation for "Cavalier(s)." E.g. Delonte is my favorite Cav player. If that is true, "Cavs" would be the proper plural abbreviation for "Cav." Source (http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipmar96.htm)
If it is an abbreviation (which I believe it is), "Cavs" is correct. If it is a contraction, you are correct.

johnnycake44022
07-15-2009, 10:47 PM
wow...slow nba night....



Using your example, the preferred plurals would be IBs or I.B.'s
(however, the latter would be frowned upon by some authorities, since
the periods are not really needed).

"Forming plurals of abbreviations

When forming plurals of abbreviated forms:

Form the plural with a lowercase s (never an es).
PBXs (not PBXes)

If the abbreviation contains internal punctuation, form the plural
with an apostrophe s.
Ph.D.'s
M.C.S.'s
(but CPUs, LANs)

Avoiding periods in abbreviated forms

In general, do not use periods in an abbreviation or acronym unless it
can be confused with a word (such as in for inches)."

Taligent Style Guide
http://pcroot.cern.ch/TaligentDocs/TaligentOnline/DocumentRoot/1.0/Docs/books/SG/SG_5.html

"The formation of plurals and possessives is usually pretty
straightforward, except in the case of abbreviations and acronyms. The
following rules should help.

To form the plural of an abbreviation, a number, or a capital letter
used as a noun, simply add an 's' to the end.

- A group of MPs
- The late 1940s
- Mind your Ps and Qs

To form the plural of an abbreviation with periods, a lowercase letter
used as a noun, and abbreviations or capital letters that would be
ambiguous or confusing if the 's' alone were added, use an apostrophe
and an 's'.

- A group of M.P.'s
- The x's in the equation
- Sending SOS's"

Writer's Block: Plural and Possessive Abbreviations
http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipmar96.htm

"Proper Use of the Apostrophe to Form Plurals

An apostrophe is also used to form some plurals, especially the plural
of letters, symbols, and digits.

- Regina received four A's on her report card.
- Timothy used too many &'s in his paper.
- The judges gave the diver two 9's and two 8's.

It is no longer considered necessary or even correct to create the
plural of years or decades or abbreviations with an apostrophe.

- He wrote several novels during the 1930s.
- There are fifteen PhDs on our faculty.
- My sister and I have identical IQs.

(If you wrote Ph.D. with periods, you would add an apostrophe before
the pluralizing 's': Ph.D.'s) If the abbreviation ends in 'S,' it's a
good idea to separate this final 'S' from the pluralizing 's' with an
apostrophe: SOS's"

EditFast Grammar Resource: Apostrophes: Forming Plurals
http://www.editfast.com/english/grammar/apostrophes/apostrophe_plurals.htm

It should be noted that, in this matter, the New York Times does not
observe the generally-accepted rules:

"Use of plurals is another area of confusion to authors and editors.
As with everything, Chicago/Turabian style takes precedence in this
project. One area of specific confusion when it comes to computer
terms is with acronyms. Most people mistakenly add an apostrophe and
letter 's' to make an acronym plural. The major proponent of this
incorrect method is 'The New York Times,' even though all publishing
houses and computer magazines agree that it is wrong.

The correct method is just to add the letter 's' to the acronym. Here
are some examples:

PBXs (not PBX's)
VLANs (not VLAN's)
NICs (not NIC's)
PCs (not PC's)

The possessive of an acronym plural has the apostrophe after the s.

PBXs'
VLANs'
NICs'
PCs'

The only time we accept an 's is when the acronym is separated with
periods. For example, Ph.D.'s."

Computer Dictionary Project
http://computerdictionary.tsf.org.za/project/

Google search strategy:

Google Web Search: abbreviation plural apostrophe
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=abbreviation+plural+apostrophe

I hope this clears things up a bit. Basically, it's best to take it
easy with the apostrophes. But if you use 'em and somebody criticizes
your usage, you can always point to the New York Times as your model.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=499296

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 10:50 PM
Sadly, your source refers more to the use of an apostrophe when showing posession with an acronym.

I'll stick with what I learned in English class and what a professor just told me.

Person A
07-15-2009, 10:54 PM
It has nothing to do with plurals.

A's is also correct because they are ommiting the "thletics". You just unknowingly proved my point. If the word was Cav then you are correct that the plural would be Cavs, but since the word is Cavalier, the correct form is Cavaliers.

I understand the use of slang and I don't even have a problem with using Cavs. As I've stated NUMEROUS times in this thread, what I have a problem with is giving him shit for actually knowing his grammatical rules.

It has everything to do with plurals; Cavs is the plural form of Cav, just as Cavaliers is the plural form of Cavalier. And yes, "Cav" is the word. It's shorthand. A similar example: "Auto" is short for automobile, and the correct plural form of "auto" is "autos". No apostrophe.

A's is only correct because for single letters, we can use an apostrophe for the plural form to prevent confusion.

Google it. (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=never+use+an+apostrophe+for+a+plural&btnG=Google+Search&fp=eoWwIC1VPaE)

KI4MVP
07-15-2009, 10:57 PM
Sadly, your source refers more to the use of an apostrophe when showing posession with an acronym.

I'll stick with what I learned in English class and what a professor just told me.

The professor is wrong

http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp

A's is the exception, not he rule.

See the exception to rule 11. A's is used because "as" is already a word. Cavs is plural for Cav, the abbreviation for cavalier

13 different rules that tell you when to use apostrophes, including the exception that covers A's, but not one case that covers using it for Cavs. It's not a contraction, it's not possessive, etc, etc. It's simply the plural form of Cav - an abbreviation for Cavaliers.

Kiddo
07-15-2009, 11:00 PM
I thought this was a CAV"""""""""S or a CAVS message board. Who give a fvck! I dont come on here to get an english lesson.

Hydroponic3385
07-15-2009, 11:06 PM
Thi's threa'd suck's.

QuadrupleDouble
07-15-2009, 11:17 PM
Took your advice and Googled it

http://www.englishclub.com/writing/punctuation-apostrophe.htm

Look at part 2 and read down

Certain words are sometimes written with an apostrophe (to show that they are really a shortened form of the original, longer word):

•influenza > 'flu (or flu)
•telephone > 'phone (or phone)



Cavaliers > Cav's or (Cavs)


The English professor was not wrong.

It can be both ways. My entire argument is predicated on the fact that someone previously was calling him out even though he was correct. I could care less if it's Cavs or Cav's being used. They're both right! Just don't knock him when he's correct.

At this, I'll retire from this thread and head to bed, comforted by the thoughts that once again, I am correct:)

g'night;)

Mdog1
07-15-2009, 11:31 PM
LOL I just need to start blocking you guys. I got out of school like a month ago, I don't need more english.

MoFlo
07-16-2009, 12:17 AM
At this, I'll retire from this thread and head to bed, comforted by the thoughts that once again, I am correct:)

g'night;)

http://www.danschawbel.com/blogimages/simoncowell.jpg

Seriously, who the fuck cares anymore, let it go..

AMC
07-16-2009, 01:15 AM
I'd be fine if we call them that basketball team from Cleveland, who cares if it's Cavs or Cav's

ZissisKilla
07-16-2009, 01:19 AM
I would take him for the minimum. What would it hurt to have an extra body around?

A penny more and he can go blow himself.

Real Deal
07-16-2009, 01:49 AM
I would welcome Drew back.

Snarly
07-16-2009, 01:56 AM
Yeah I would start Drew again Thinking he Is more Smart now god I hope so. I wounder If he would fit better with Shaq than AV I would think so since he can hit the outside shot... As a last minute choice id take him either way it gives us more options and that sounds good to me.

CornerThree
07-16-2009, 02:16 AM
Man, if they bring Goober Gooden back, I'm going to be hella pissed. It was one of the greatest sports days of my life when they finally got rid the dumbass.

ZissisKilla
07-16-2009, 03:37 AM
Yeah I would start Drew again Thinking he Is more Smart now god I hope so. I wounder If he would fit better with Shaq than AV I would think so since he can hit the outside shot... As a last minute choice id take him either way it gives us more options and that sounds good to me.



He's not smarter.

That's like hoping Shawn Kemp got less fat or kept his dick in his pants.

TJ Detweiler
07-16-2009, 03:46 AM
Hell to the No.

IGNYTE
07-16-2009, 04:47 AM
Id take Drew over Kleiza and Kurs as our backup PF if we can have him cheap..... remember Drew helped us get to the finals and he already knows mike browns system

imahustla
07-16-2009, 04:52 AM
Considering the other options out there, how can anyone say no to Drew as a BACKUP for a year? And with the rest of the MLE we have left if no one else signs with us? It would be kind of odd for him to back up Anderson, who now has a brand new contract, but other than that, he'd be a good fit playing 15-20 minutes off the bench. And he has always been a matchup guy -- sometimes the matchups are in his favor, which can be amplified. Sometimes they're not, and that's when he stays parked on the bench.

It's not like we're going to be paying this guy $7 mil a year for three years like we did before and asking him to start and play 30 minutes a night. Good grief, RCF makes it hard to distinguish between Gooden and Osama bin Laden. You'd think Drew's the antichrist or something.

don2x
07-16-2009, 05:36 AM
I would welcome Drew back.

+1:thumbup:

castor777
07-16-2009, 01:59 PM
Honestly for the options out there now, and having Drew as a backup, I don't see why not. I don't think the Cavs have any interest in him, but of the names floating around out there and the money we have, I really don't see the issue with it. I know he is a dumb player, but if he can be had for the cheap and will likely *comprehend* (big word for him) our system it wouldn't be a bad move at all.

Three6Pavia
07-16-2009, 02:44 PM
I'd rather see somebody with basketball IQ take any position that Drew might fill.

Ferry worked so hard to get all the jackasses off this team, lets not screw the pooch now.

sam_slam911
07-16-2009, 02:54 PM
I thought Wine and Gold already said there was zero chance we take back Gooden?

Lee
07-16-2009, 02:57 PM
Id take Drew over Kleiza and Kurs as our backup PF if we can have him cheap..... remember Drew helped us get to the finals and he already knows mike browns system

Part of the problem is that after several years of being coached by Mike Brown, he still hasnt learned his system defensively. If the team is ok with it though, Gooden would be ok as a stretch pf signed for the bae.

Delonte East
07-16-2009, 02:58 PM
and he already knows mike browns system

I think it would be more accurate to say "he has spent some time around" Mike Brown's system, or he has "been near some people using" mike Brown's system.

Spencer Hawes
07-16-2009, 02:58 PM
Id take Drew over Kleiza and Kurs as our backup PF if we can have him cheap..... remember Drew helped us get to the finals and he already knows mike browns system

No he doesn't lol. He's still trying argue with Mike Brown that 1+1 = 11

action
07-16-2009, 03:09 PM
Theoretically sure. BUT - this is what Lebron thinks of the idea:

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And Ben isn't a big fan either:

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pl4tinum
07-16-2009, 04:38 PM
Bad player with bad basketball IQ, bad hair, bad mojo, bad chemistry with Lebron, bad memories, bad idea.

Adminīs Grandma
07-16-2009, 04:51 PM
He has Finnish roots, so it probably explains why he is such a loser.

Kypus
07-16-2009, 06:38 PM
With Shaq here, it's redundant.

Shaq+Gooden trying to post up = Train Wreck

I'd rather have Joe Smith's silky smooth jumper back.

castor777
07-16-2009, 06:45 PM
With Shaq here, it's redundant.

Shaq+Gooden trying to post up = Train Wreck

I'd rather have Joe Smith's silky smooth jumper back.

Well I want Joe Smith back here and think he is the best we can do at PF since Kleiza seems like a long shot.

But Gooden isn't much of a post up player, he shoots the ball a lot and has a descent midrange jumper. So to be fair, he shoots a higher percentage than Joe Smith does.

That's not to say he's a better player at all, but if we're talking mid-range jumpers, that's honestly the one thing Drew is actually pretty solid at.

Boom Outta Here
07-16-2009, 06:51 PM
If the Cavs really had any interest in bringing back Gooden, they would have done it back in March when they had the chance. Put this thread to bed.

Cavatt
07-16-2009, 07:59 PM
Theoretically sure. BUT - this is what Lebron thinks of the idea:

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And Ben isn't a big fan either:

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Oh man Ben looked great there. I wish he had been like that at the end of the year. I feel like he died. I will miss him.

CFPPF
07-16-2009, 08:57 PM
I really hope this isn't even a thought for Danny Ferry. Drew Gooden is not the answer for anything. I just feel that he would not mesh well at all with the great continuity that we developed last year. I'd rather take my chances on another guy not Drew. Of course you want to come back Drew. No one else wants you that is a contender.

kookoo
07-16-2009, 09:21 PM
I think we need a golden watch thread so he doesn't come here.

WitnessMoBoobie
07-17-2009, 05:46 PM
For cheap I wouldn't mind. Whatever he did to Lebron is far less bad than the whole Boozer situation (who I would even take back in the right situation). It is all about winning now. This could be Lebron's last year in Cleveland and if he leaves we might as well go out with a bang.

JayP146
07-17-2009, 05:56 PM
For cheap I wouldn't mind. Whatever he did to Lebron is far less bad than the whole Boozer situation (who I would even take back in the right situation). It is all about winning now. This could be Lebron's last year in Cleveland and if he leaves we might as well go out with a bang.

If by "bang" you mean "collective RCF facepalm" every time Drew makes a stupid mistake on the defensive end of the floor, then yes, absolutely.

WitnessMoBoobie
07-18-2009, 01:02 PM
If by "bang" you mean "collective RCF facepalm" every time Drew makes a stupid mistake on the defensive end of the floor, then yes, absolutely.

Ya he has the basketball IQ of a 4th grader, but he was our starting PF not too long ago. Bringing him back as the 4th big man would be a decent upgrade.

demondeacs13
07-18-2009, 02:24 PM
Ya he has the basketball IQ of a 4th grader, but he was our starting PF not too long ago. Bringing him back as the 4th big man would be a decent upgrade.

And it's pretty scary that his actual IQ is lower than his bball IQ.

http://pics.livejournal.com/bessie_smith/pic/00020ecf

WitnessMoBoobie
07-18-2009, 02:35 PM
And it's pretty scary that his actual IQ is lower than his bball IQ.

http://pics.livejournal.com/bessie_smith/pic/00020ecf

:chuckles:

Homestar
07-18-2009, 03:12 PM
You guys can continue to hate all you want...

The fact is- Drew Gooden is the most talented free agent left that the Cavs could realistically acquire. He may not shoot 3's but he has a lot of range that would put him in the "stretch 4" category. And despite what everyone says, he is at least an average defender.

For anyone saying that want Boozer here, Gooden is about 1,000x better defensively. Boozer is literally as good defensively as a bowl of cat food.

But the whole argument is moot if LeBron doesn't want him on the team.

The Shoulder
07-23-2009, 06:02 PM
I actually want Drew back...i love when he goes on his offensive spirts, those are my favorites...I think KNOW he could be the low post SCORER we need, the defensive side is a different story

InBoobieWeTrust
07-23-2009, 06:19 PM
I actually want Drew back...i love when he goes on his offensive spirts, those are my favorites...I think KNOW he could be the low post SCORER we need, the defensive side is a different story

We added this dude to fix the low post scoring problem.

He's pretty big. He used to play for the Suns...shot 61% last year.

Can't seem to remember his name.

The Shoulder
07-23-2009, 06:22 PM
We added this dude to fix the low post scoring problem.

He's pretty big. He used to play for the Suns...shot 61% last year.

Can't seem to remember his name.

I'm talking about for PF, if we can get him for the cheap

Thunder
07-23-2009, 06:25 PM
The only great, yes great, thing about Gooden's "defense" is his rebounding. He's a good rebounder, could get 8-12 any night, even with Shaq and LeBron around him. He reminds me of a watered down Boozer actually....can shoot the mid-range, bad at normal defense but an exceptionally well rebounder. Boozer's better around the basket and in the post though. Boozer's also an all-star, lol. But yeah, if LeBron doesn't mind, I'd like Gooden as a decent option off the bench. If anything, we can offer him an year on the cheap and if he succeeds with Shaq, he can cash in next summer with another team or with us. If he plays bad, we bench him and give JJ/DJ minutes.

ajz20
07-23-2009, 06:28 PM
how is this not locked by now

chrisrich91
07-23-2009, 06:31 PM
The fact is- Drew Gooden is the most talented free agent left that the Cavs could realistically acquire. He may not shoot 3's but he has a lot of range that would put him in the "stretch 4" category. And despite what everyone says, he is at least an average defender.

http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module2/78344/Noooooo!.jpg

DannyFerry4Three
07-23-2009, 06:32 PM
Dear God..please no Drew Gooden :puke:

Mdog1
07-23-2009, 07:08 PM
Meh i've heard of worse ideas, Kurz, Barnes, Kleiza come to mind but other than them theres no worse options. If Drew would take the rest of the MLE less 500k then he would be a great option for us.

Silky Smooth
07-23-2009, 07:20 PM
I wonder what is Lebron's take on possibly have Drew back as a teammate. Reportedly Drew started the whole mess between Stevenson and Bron and Lebron has played with Drew enough to know he is a lost cause on defense. Either way i cant see Drew taking $500,000 when he could get guarrenteed $2+million somewhere else. Anyways it's up to the team and i cant see us going through Drew's mental farts like before.

KIisKing
07-23-2009, 07:27 PM
O you mean hes available, I though he took a year off to attend the physco ward?

Drew is not a terrible idea considering he would come of the bench and wouldnt be one our main offense producers, thats Lebron's, Mo's, and Shaq's job now. His mental lapse or what I dont want though, I'm also afraid since Lebron wants no part of him that he isnt being looked at an option.

ACDC_Rocks024
07-23-2009, 07:48 PM
Let's face it, we need one more thing, besides Moon, that is a PF.

It doesn't have to be Drew, but he's not a terrible option. He does have some range.
Personally, I'd lean towards Kurz and his youth, meaning that he's still got potential. At his decent height, he's also got solid range, he shoots 3 balls and makes a decent amount. He can also grab some boards and do a little bit of posting up. Not to mention, at his age, he can still learn how to play good defense under Coach Brown. I think he'd come extremely cheap, throw the BAE at him...

JayP146
07-23-2009, 08:23 PM
If Drew's so valuable ... then why hasn't another team signed him already?

Heck, the Kings took Sean May over Gooden ...

cavfanintexas
07-23-2009, 08:46 PM
If Drew's so valuable ... then why hasn't another team signed him already?

Heck, the Kings took Sean May over Gooden ...

how much of May's contract was guaranteed? and how much was it for?

kblade
07-23-2009, 08:59 PM
I feel that JJ and or DJ could do just as good of job as Drew. The one thing that would be nice with Drew is that nice shot he had from about ten feet out. He nailed that shit all day if he was open, and with I feel he could be a nice compliment to SHA-Que.

Gordon Bombay
07-23-2009, 09:03 PM
step aside drew, its jj's time

kblade
07-23-2009, 09:12 PM
Word up Gordon it is JJ time, lets see what he can do. PS............ how are the ducks looking this offseason.

bscskis
07-23-2009, 09:20 PM
The only great, yes great, thing about Gooden's "defense" is his rebounding. He's a good rebounder, could get 8-12 any night, even with Shaq and LeBron around him. He reminds me of a watered down Boozer actually....can shoot the mid-range, bad at normal defense but an exceptionally well rebounder. Boozer's better around the basket and in the post though. Boozer's also an all-star, lol. But yeah, if LeBron doesn't mind, I'd like Gooden as a decent option off the bench. If anything, we can offer him an year on the cheap and if he succeeds with Shaq, he can cash in next summer with another team or with us. If he plays bad, we bench him and give JJ/DJ minutes.

I completely agree with this assesment. I'm of the minority on this board that advocates bringing Boozer back.... and if that isn't possible Drew is a very similar, all-be in less skilled version of Boozer. Solid rebounder, Solid Post Player, and Solid Mid-Range game. Suspect D, but we have Shaq and Andy to defend the tougher post players on the opposing team.

I'm not sure how he fits on this year's team though. If he's going to go for a 1 year deal (playing for a longer, bigger contract) he's better off signing with a team where he can get some PT. Not sure how much he'd get as our #4 big. I wouldn't mind, honestly, singing him for 2 or 3 years if the rate is reasonable. He fits well alongside Andy and we know that they probably wont keep both of Shaq and Z after this year. Both Andy and Drew are solid rebounders; Andy can defend the tougher big; and Drew can be the primary inside scorer when Andy and him are on the floor.

There are issues though as some have mentioned that LeBron doesn't want to have him back...... that would end the discussion right now. Also, especially this year, it would stunt JJ's growth that much more b/c he'd be pushed back in the rotation. It sounds like they hope to give JJ some PT as the backup 4.

And I don't think that the contract that Drew is looking for matches up with what we have to offer. He'll probably end up having to settle for a 1 year deal to try and earn a legit multi-year contract next year. I could see some team thin on bigs giving him a decent chunk of the MLE- maybe up to 3 million. If that's the case and Moon is still on, we can't offer more than the BAE. I'd definitely offer the BAE for 2 years.... we might end up using him more in yr 2 with either Z or Shaq gone. He would be an excellent value at that time- and obviously easily tradeable. I would admire Drew greatly if he took a 2 yr BAE from a contender.... play for a championship as a role player vs. trying to put up big numbers on a below average team to play for a contract. It would be surprising though.....

QuadrupleDouble
07-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Wow!

Talk about a resurgance. I thought this thread was dead for sure and now I see it at the top of the page and 13 people are viewing it.

Reading all the posts you can say there are only two arguments here.

The irrational argument that adding Drew Gooden for depth would be awful because he is the worst thing since Larry Hughes. He's going to make this team lose by playing a small role and the only reason we lost to the Spurs is because of Drew Gooden.

The rational argument that even though he's an imperfect player, we would be lucky to get him to fill a role at less than the MLE.

Look past the irrational hatred of a player that isn't quite an all star, but does do certain jobs well. Look past the personal hatred of a man none of us actually know.

I actually think adding his beard antics back in to the locker room would really help to balance things between the pesonalities of Shaq and Delonte. In the beard, there is balance

KIisKing
07-23-2009, 09:30 PM
Sweet avatar KBlade!

Green Demon
07-23-2009, 09:58 PM
Personally I don't think he will be back because it seemed like he just burnt to many bridges after he was traded away. I mean wasn't the whole "feud" between Deshawn and Lebron started after Drew told Deshawn somethings that Lebron said about him. It also seemed like the general consensus throughout the organization was that Drew was dumb as rocks when it came to BB IQ and that was one of the reasons that we were glad to get rid of him.

Also this may be a little off topic but I don't understand why everyone is clamoring for the "stretch 4" I understand that this would obviously give us more options on the offensive end and of course likely make the team better but at this point it doesn't look like there are any options out there. At this point I think Andy being offensive-handicapped is being overblown, at this point he will be basically the last offensive option on the court and is being looked at to make plays with his energy and extend possessions rather then score every time down the court. That being said he actually has some offensive game and is a lot better comparable to our starting PF last year B Wallace, I mean at least he can complete a dunk. :chuckles:

edibleme
07-23-2009, 10:47 PM
Why does everyone hate Gooden? what did the guy ever do to this city except fill in for a backstabber (Boozer) and contribute, maybe not at a Boozer like clip, but good enough? I say if he comes in at a Lorenzen like pay,let him back. The only player better than, and that is even debateable, Gooden, is AV. Lorenzen Wright has contributed NOTHING, I say do what you can to bring in Gooden.

Douglar
07-23-2009, 10:51 PM
Drew's kind of out in the cold right now. Villanueva get's big $$$ and the Goods gets nothing. Personally, I always thought that they were similar players except that Drew was a better rebounder.

Someone will pay Drew close to MLE money. He's too talented for a bad team to pass up. But forget about him on good teams. He's not the guy you want on the roster of a team trying to go deep in the playoffs.

No Offense
07-24-2009, 12:58 AM
Drew's kind of out in the cold right now. Villanueva get's big $$$ and the Goods gets nothing. Personally, I always thought that they were similar players except that Drew was a better rebounder.

Someone will pay Drew close to MLE money. He's too talented for a bad team to pass up. But forget about him on good teams. He's not the guy you want on the roster of a team trying to go deep in the playoffs.


Exactly. You just can't trust that guy to do the right thing when it matters most.

Gordon Bombay
07-24-2009, 01:04 AM
Exactly. You just can't trust that guy to do the right thing when it matters most.

or anytime for that matter

narbar32
07-24-2009, 01:18 AM
Drew's kind of out in the cold right now. Villanueva get's big $$$ and the Goods gets nothing. Personally, I always thought that they were similar players except that Drew was a better rebounder.

Someone will pay Drew close to MLE money. He's too talented for a bad team to pass up. But forget about him on good teams. He's not the guy you want on the roster of a team trying to go deep in the playoffs.

I understand your point and agree that Drew is the better rebounder, but in all fairness, Charlie is a far better offensive player than is/was Drew. Charlie has better handles, more range on his jumper, and better overall athleticism. Most importantly in terms of demand this offseason, Charlie is about 4 years younger than Drew and hasn't had nearly the same opportunity to succeed in this league as Drew had while starting alongside Lebron.

They both are known airheads and Charlie is more of a chucker even though Drew has his moments, but the disparity in interest around the league is definitely due to the differences in age and upside.

Gimme Some Mo
07-25-2009, 03:07 AM
Well maybe this will all end tomorrow....

Drew's twitter:


I will be making my decision tomorrow on which team I will be playing for! Stay tuned...
http://twitter.com/DrewGooden

Man Called X
07-25-2009, 03:08 AM
It won't be us. Who cares?

Earl
07-25-2009, 03:24 AM
Lorenzen Wright has contributed NOTHING

:eek: He would jump around and stuff whenever someone did something good :chuckles:

imahustla
07-25-2009, 04:08 AM
Someone will pay Drew close to MLE money. He's too talented for a bad team to pass up. But forget about him on good teams. He's not the guy you want on the roster of a team trying to go deep in the playoffs.
Seeing that Chris Wilcox, a similar player, got two years and $6 mil (less than the MLE), and also the fact that Drew still hasn't generated serious interest from anybody as of yet, I don't think he'll get anything close to the MLE. For his sake and future as a player, I really hope it makes him realize just how the rest of the league looks at him and his mental game, and he should do whatever it takes to work on that aspect. I remember this guy at Kansas and the '02 tournament and he was a fucking BEAST. I really thought he'd be something in the NBA one day and when we got him to replace Boozer I honestly thought we were going to be just fine. It turns out that we WERE just fine, but Gooden didn't have nearly as much to do with it as he should have.

RationalChoices
07-25-2009, 04:26 AM
Lorenzen Wright has contributed NOTHING, I say do what you can to bring in Gooden.

He broke his thumb in the last game of the season which prevented Mike Brown from being able to play Lorenzen Wright at anytime in the post-season.

Adminīs Grandma
07-25-2009, 06:53 AM
Gooden at BAE, coming from the bench for 20 mins a game would be ok.

In the other hand, he is so frustating player that scratch that over. Donīt come back Drew.

Connor
07-25-2009, 08:52 AM
Am I the only one who loved Drew? He was an amazing replacement for Boozer. I was extremly saddend when we gave him up in the big trade even tho the result was much much better for the team. If Drew were to come back to Cleveland I would welcome him with open arms. I dont see him in a Cavs uniform ever again but I just wish people on this board will stop bashing him.

*L-Train*
07-25-2009, 08:59 AM
I wonder what is Lebron's take on possibly have Drew back as a teammate. Reportedly Drew started the whole mess between Stevenson and Bron and Lebron has played with Drew enough to know he is a lost cause on defense. Either way i cant see Drew taking $500,000 when he could get guarrenteed $2+million somewhere else. Anyways it's up to the team and i cant see us going through Drew's mental farts like before.

we could also give him 2mio if we offer him the BAE. i'm not a fan of gooden but if joe really wants a longterm contract like it was rumored i would take him back...

edibleme
07-25-2009, 09:49 AM
I can't see why he wouldn't want to come back, but I can see why we wouldn't want him back. I certainly don't want him back.

why don't YOU want him back??

Taki
07-25-2009, 09:58 AM
I hate to say it, but while Varejao is the better overall player, Gooden would be a better fit starting next to Shaq.

edibleme
07-25-2009, 10:00 AM
YOU guys are fuckin nuts!!! The guy is a player...what's all this stupid crap of "hell no he has no basketball IQ"??? IMO, if they banned people with low basketball IQ's from ever posting in forums these boards as well as others would be EMPTY!!! GIVE IT A REST GUYS, the guy can be a serviceable backup in fact I'm not too sure he's not better than AV. BUT, since AV is making the money he's making he should start. With Shaq in the middle, even AV should look like an allstar.

Spencer Hawes
07-25-2009, 10:03 AM
I like Gooden's skillset. I don't mind if we signed him with the BAE if he's the last remaining option but I'd rather prefer some younger PF who has a higher basketball IQ than lil ole Drew.

nime
07-25-2009, 10:49 AM
I want AV's defense next to Shaq on pick n rolls......

Gooden is a horrible weakside/help defender.

Teams are going to be running screen and rolls on Mo/Shaq combinations on offense.
If anything I want to see another young big that will work hard on defense and can hit an open shot.

Drew's a lost cause defensively now.

I'd love to get Hakim or Powe for the BAE. Hakim is probably out of the price range, but I'd love to see what
Mike Brown could do for his defensive career and he'll score with Shaq and LBJ next to him. Powe would fit right in
come Feb or March. Give the team insurance if JJ isn't ready for bigtime minutes or Z and Shaq need more rest
before the playoffs. Also, both options help increase trade options.

Tor doesn't want an expiring contract for Bosh, they want talent. JJ, Powe or Hakim packaged with some 1st rounders
will make a couple teams in this league listen up. Ferry could pull another deal for a true PF.

aaronr
07-25-2009, 10:59 AM
YOU guys are fuckin nuts!!! The guy is a player...what's all this stupid crap of "hell no he has no basketball IQ"??? IMO, if they banned people with low basketball IQ's from ever posting in forums these boards as well as others would be EMPTY!!! GIVE IT A REST GUYS, the guy can be a serviceable backup in fact I'm not too sure he's not better than AV. BUT, since AV is making the money he's making he should start. With Shaq in the middle, even AV should look like an allstar.

I've stayed out of the Gooden thread because i was an unabashed Gooden supporter for years (a trait for which I was continually bashed by the Gooden detractors), but I came to realize over the years that AV is a better player overall. I argued eventually that AV should have been the starter and Gooden the reserve.

Notwithstanding his defensive limitations and his tendency to freeze ball movement when he gets his hands on the rock, I think he'd be a fine addition if he'd come for a year at a low salary. Our second unit could use somebody with some offensive punch. He's a good shooter and a good rebounder, and also a good guy on the bench and in the locker room.

I'm retreating now to put my football helmet on anticipation of the brickbats from MYoung, Maximus and my old friend Karma, not to mention some of the snotty-nosed kids who've joined the RCF clan.

No Offense
07-25-2009, 02:05 PM
Bill Simmons hits the nail on the head right here:


Q: Was that the end of the Spurs' pseudo-dynasty?

A: Yeah, I think so. It's too bad. You can only feast on bargain free agents, castoffs and late first-rounders for so long. And Duncan passed the 1,000-game mark, which is never a good thing. Barkley made a great point on TNT on Tuesday night that I will try to paraphrase: Superstars reach a point when everyone starts saying, "We just need to get him some rest" or "We just need to get him more help," when really, the guy is just getting old and you can't stop it. In Duncan's prime, he would have seen the series slipping away after Game 3 and slapped up a 35-19-7 with seven blocks to save the Spurs in Game 4. Not this time. He only had a 25-10-7 with one block in him, Slight difference … but a difference.

Know when I knew it was over for the Spurs? When they signed Drew Gooden. Good rebounder, decent inside scorer, total knucklehead. He grew a mini-beard on the back of his neck three years ago. He let down LeBron so many times that LeBron developed an actual "Drew Gooden disappointed me yet again and I might have to kill him soon" frown. When he went to Chicago, Cleveland immediately became a better team. The Bulls dumped him and they immediately became better. He's exactly the type of player the Spurs NEVER sign: someone who looks better on paper than he actually is. I just thought it seemed like a desperate move. And it was.

Rimage
07-25-2009, 04:01 PM
Why play Drew in meaningless games and not use him when it matters, when you could play JJ in meaningless games and possibly play him when it does matter. JJ needs court time and there is no sense in having Drew out there doing his thing when we know when we have to make plays he won't be a part of it.

xAusT1n
07-25-2009, 04:05 PM
Gooden will give you points, rebounds...and well thats about it but he doesn't make us better. Sure he can hit a 15 ft shot but thats not what we need, we need D, IQ, and shooting, Gooden can't give that. Pass

Green Lantern
07-25-2009, 05:17 PM
I can't see MB as frustrated as he was with Gooden and Lebron who looked like he wanted to jettison DG out of Gund arena in his underwear welcome him back...why would you want a frustrating player back when you got better when he was traded?
And I can't see the posters who are getting mental because the guy actually does have a low BB IQ don't see it??

MoFlo
07-25-2009, 05:24 PM
YOU guys are fuckin nuts!!! The guy is a player...what's all this stupid crap of "hell no he has no basketball IQ"??? IMO, if they banned people with low basketball IQ's from ever posting in forums these boards as well as others would be EMPTY!!! GIVE IT A REST GUYS, the guy can be a serviceable backup in fact I'm not too sure he's not better than AV. BUT, since AV is making the money he's making he should start. With Shaq in the middle, even AV should look like an allstar.

Um, last time I checked, people posting on forums didn't get paid millions of dollars to play basketball.. so I really don't see how that has anything to do with Gooden.. :confused:

Plus, it's not just his low basketball IQ, it's also his knack for making bonehead plays and his lack of defense..

With this team on such a high talent wise, I don't want any type of "Drew being Drew" moments bringing us down at all..

No Offense
07-25-2009, 05:30 PM
Danny Ferry spent 2 entire years ridding this team of guys with low basketball IQ.

Why would he go out of his way to bring back one of the biggest low IQ guys out there after all of that hard work?

kblade
07-25-2009, 05:38 PM
just checked goodens twitter, nothing yet. The only thing with having him on the team this time around it would be different. We wouldnt have to rely on him like we did before. He could come in and play when needed.

The only thing i dont want to do is take away from JJ's development. Which i see happening if drew is town. But I think Drew is better at basketball right now then JJ, but in two years that will change.

Brother Redbush
07-25-2009, 06:32 PM
hiow many foms of NO WAY could i use to descibe how much i DON'T want him at all associated with any cavalier team ever ?

his game is not meant for any team looking to contend or win anything. he's the definition of a player that cn post numbers that mean absolutely nothing.

for everything he does well on the court, he more than negates with thing he won't or simply can't do on the court.

he's like zach randolph. stephon marbury, michael redd. all stat, no wins type players.

BballGirl
07-25-2009, 07:26 PM
I know one thing, Drew Gooden showed flashes of being a real good player when he was with us the first time. He has a nice jumper, he can rebound, he's a hussler on the court, he provides energy, he just does a lot of things that aren't on the stats kinda like Andy V. I think if Drew Gooden came back to us that would be a major pickup.

I'd definitely welcome Drew Gooden back with open-arms.

Smooth
07-25-2009, 11:26 PM
I'm officially scared.. I'll be pissed at Ferry if this happens...

@ChrisMannixSI: NBA source said Drew Gooden deciding between Charlotte, Cleveland and Dallas this weekend.

GilbertForPres
07-25-2009, 11:29 PM
I guess if Brown AND LeBron are ok with him coming back for the BAE it couldn't hurt. Thats a big if though.

slammer52
07-25-2009, 11:43 PM
I wouldn't mind having the Drizzle back. I think he could start alongside Shaq for all those who feel Andy and Shaq starting together is the end of the world, give him 16-18 minutes, and give Andy 26-28 off the bench. I know it hinders JJ, but we'll have all the time in the world to develop JJ if we don't keep LeBron because we didn't get deep enough in the playoffs.

Everyone absolutely rips on him for basketball IQ, but some have said basketball IQ is an issue for Moon, and have heard far less complaint about that.

kevfranchisehan
07-25-2009, 11:43 PM
not ok, even for BAE.

cavfanintexas
07-25-2009, 11:49 PM
He broke his thumb in the last game of the season which prevented Mike Brown from being able to play Lorenzen Wright at anytime in the post-season.

do you really think he would have played him anyways? Wright played in a total of 17 games and as far as I was concerned it was 17 games to many. Not saying Gooden is a good player but he is hell of alot better than Wright.

CavsRules
07-25-2009, 11:51 PM
I believe we are rumored to Gooden because he is a power forward who can shoot the ball at a certain distance, a jump-shooting power forward who would fit next to Shaq. Now his basketball IQ and piss-poor defense is what makes me just scream no to Goods. Only way I would accept this happening is if James and Brown both agree to the idea.

Doubt that happens, though..

cavfanintexas
07-25-2009, 11:52 PM
not ok, even for BAE.

Why? The grass is allways green in someone else yard, Gooden and Wally are not bad player they are just not starters, they are bench player that help.

Smooth
07-25-2009, 11:54 PM
You guys seem to forget that LeBron wasn't too happy when Gooden leaked everything he'd said and went on in the Cavs locker room to DeShawn Stevenson..

I really don't see LeBron and/or MB wanting him back.. I don't think either want to or could put up with him any longer..

There's a reason Drew will never win a ring on a team that he plays 10+ minutes for..

JimmyJazz
07-25-2009, 11:54 PM
Bash Drew all you want, but he is a better PF than an injured JJ or a healthy Darnell Jackson. In other words if we sign Drew he would be our 2nd best PF behind Varejao. Not much debate about it either. If not Joe than Drew.

D-westfan
07-25-2009, 11:56 PM
to make matters worse, drew is officially a LIAR he said he'd decide by saturday, its now sunday and no decision!!!!!

Kongo Time
07-26-2009, 12:05 AM
Gooden is not a guy you add to a young team and because every one is broke no only the top couple teams can spend money.

cavfanintexas
07-26-2009, 12:10 AM
I for one do not care if we sign Gooden/Joe or player X, but we do need to sign a PF that can fill in for AV if he is out for a week or two, and since Wally played before either J.J. or D.J. I do not see them as a option at this time.

Clevelandfan15
07-26-2009, 12:19 AM
Wait...so does this mean that he actually has an offer out there from the Cavs ready to sign?

If that's the case, Cavs organization must not be to down on him. Id take him for a 1 or 2 deal as long as he acts right and is committed to winning.

D-westfan
07-26-2009, 12:43 AM
Dallas here I come!!!half a minute ago from TwitterFon g

Sir Charles Barkley
07-26-2009, 12:55 AM
Wow that was too close. I was beginning to worry...

CavsRules
07-26-2009, 01:05 AM
He signed a one year deal, worth $5 Million..

Glad he didn't sign with us, that's for damn sure.

mingatime
07-26-2009, 01:08 AM
If he was going to sign for 5 million than why were we even considered? We could not have offered him anything close at all.

CavsRules
07-26-2009, 01:11 AM
If he was going to sign for 5 million than why were we even considered? We could not have offered him anything close at all.

Gooden probably would have taken less, IMO, to play here.. Just a gut-feeling, could be wrong. He wasn't demanding $5 Million a year, I don't believe - Dallas just made sure they were the ones to blow him out of the water.

His contract can be used in a trade now, too.

InBoobieWeTrust
07-26-2009, 01:15 AM
I'm so happy that Gooden won't be a Cav.

col63onel
07-26-2009, 01:19 AM
I have no idea how this thread got over 230 posts. I can only hope about 80% of it was mocking Drew's "soul patch" or his "I'm making it rain" celebration whenever he hit back to back jumpers.

FuneralOfHearts
07-26-2009, 01:22 AM
Gooden probably would have taken less, IMO, to play here.. Just a gut-feeling, could be wrong. He wasn't demanding $5 Million a year, I don't believe - Dallas just made sure they were the ones to blow him out of the water.

His contract can be used in a trade now, too.

Isn't there some rule that gives him a no trade clause though. If a player signs a 1 year deal they have to ok the deal because they'd lose bird rights or something like that, I keep remembering the Devean George thing in the Kidd trade that he nixed, I could be wrong but if anyone can clarify please do so.

CavsRules
07-26-2009, 01:29 AM
Isn't there some rule that gives him a no trade clause though. If a player signs a 1 year deal they have to ok the deal because they'd lose bird rights or something like that, I keep remembering the Devean George thing in the Kidd trade that he nixed, I could be wrong but if anyone can clarify please do so.

I doubt Dallas threw in a no trade clause, unless they were that sold on Gooden.

I'm no genius when it comes to salary cap and contracts, I usually search around until Douglar or Smooth explains that kinda stuff.. So, I really don't know myself.

FuneralOfHearts
07-26-2009, 01:40 AM
I doubt Dallas threw in a no trade clause, unless they were that sold on Gooden.

I'm no genius when it comes to salary cap and contracts, I usually search around until Douglar or Smooth explains that kinda stuff.. So, I really don't know myself.

It's not that dallas gave George the clause either, but it's something in the NBA rules. I don't think any team would give Devean George that right.

Kongo Time
07-26-2009, 02:09 AM
Wow i was just going to say i could see Gooden on the mavs but then i thought they had Gortat. Damn that would have been funny because that was about 3 hours ago.

MoFlo
07-26-2009, 02:30 AM
to make matters worse, drew is officially a LIAR he said he'd decide by saturday, its now sunday and no decision!!!!!

Do you realize that you posted this at 11:56 PM on Saturday?

believeland
07-26-2009, 02:31 AM
I would love him back, but thats just me.

Nicky
07-26-2009, 02:36 AM
The word "love" and Drew do not commonly go together.
I wouldn't mind having him back, but we've been there, done that. It didn't really work too well the first time, doubt it would a second time.

PIP
07-26-2009, 02:53 AM
So funny how the Spurs got a taste of the Gooden experience, and didn't even act like they knew he was on the market come FAgency...

He's now on his 4th team since the Cavs.. :chuckles:

Frank Stallone
07-26-2009, 03:22 AM
Interesting (hilarious) tweet from Bill Simmons (the Sports Guy)...


'Well, if that's the case, then as your father I'm asking you, don't sign Drew Gooden." --Don Nelson (if he were still Mavs coach)
about 2 hours ago from web

Mmmmm.

CleveRocks
07-26-2009, 07:20 AM
If he has signed with Dallas that is fine, but I for one would have taken goober back if he had signed for the BAE or remaining MLE AND if I could not get a crack at Marcus Williams. Goober has physical gifts and a low defensive IQ, but he played better with Lebron than many of our players back then, and I think he will play better under mike Brown than any one else in the league.

D-westfan
07-26-2009, 07:30 AM
Do you realize that you posted this at 11:56 PM on Saturday?

yes i was impatient :P knew he wasnt gonna get it off at midnight, surprised noone caught that besides u...
;)
maybe he was going by dallas time.. either way he was cutting it close

Rob822
07-26-2009, 07:41 AM
Probashub jus twitted Gooden to Dallas 1yr 5mill

Splitz
07-26-2009, 08:04 AM
Probashub jus twitted Gooden to Dallas 1yr 5mill

5 million?!

DougHeil
07-26-2009, 09:22 AM
5 million?!
If so, just wow. O'l Mark Cuban loves to wheel and deal and gamble. I'm not so sure this gamble at this time will pay off to the tune of 5 million smackers though. That is a ton of money for Mr. Gooden.

aaronr
07-26-2009, 09:32 AM
Mr. Gooden is one lucky man to have landed in that place at that money. I wish him well except against the Cavs.