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Purple Vein
07-10-2009, 03:13 PM
Wally sucks balls for the most part, but he still has SOME talent and would obviously be on the cheap.

While he can't guard 3's or 2's anymore, if he ever could, he's big and strong enough to guard some of the smaller 4's out there. He also has a decent post game and can still shoot a little. Do we just sign him for the 15 minutes a game that we would play our fourth big and let him be our stretch big man? I think he would be a little better than Channing would have to be honest with you.

Prime 1978
07-10-2009, 03:14 PM
I hope not!!!

SanduskyCav
07-10-2009, 03:14 PM
:gtfo:

ZissisKilla
07-10-2009, 03:14 PM
The Cleveland Rockers folded a long time ago.

Cavsfan89
07-10-2009, 03:14 PM
If anything, Joe Smith would be our stretch 4.

Lee
07-10-2009, 03:15 PM
Wally sucks balls for the most part, but he still has SOME talent and would obviously be on the cheap.

While he can't guard 3's or 2's anymore, if he ever could, he's big and strong enough to guard some of the smaller 4's out there. He also has a decent post game and can still shoot a little. Do we just sign him for the 15 minutes a game that we would play our fourth big and let him be our stretch big man? I think he would be a little better than Channing would have to be honest with you.

I think he will be back, and i want him back, but I rather him not be a regular member of our rotation. I rather see Joe Smith in the rotation than wally. If we are going to use a sf as our stretch pf....Lebron is a much better option.

Benedict_Boozer
07-10-2009, 03:16 PM
Yeah at this point Joe Smith is our best option in FA

Rob822
07-10-2009, 03:16 PM
Don't laugh before you think about it but Z could end up playing the 4. He's abit slow but man can he shoot.

TheBigLeBronski
07-10-2009, 03:18 PM
I will spell it out.
W-A-L-L-Y S-Z-C-Z-E-R-B-I-A-K
As you will note, there is no "D"

ZissisKilla
07-10-2009, 03:21 PM
I will spell it out.
W-A-L-L-Y S-C-Z-E-R-B-I-A-K
As you will note, there is no "D"


Or "O"

SanduskyCav
07-10-2009, 03:21 PM
Don't laugh before you think about it but Z could end up playing the 4. He's abit slow but man can he shoot.

That would be great for other teams fast breaks. Shaq + Z against a quick team = alot of 3 on 5 fast break points for the other team.

Walter White
07-10-2009, 03:24 PM
I will spell it out.
W-A-L-L-Y S-C-Z-E-R-B-I-A-K
As you will note, there is no "D"

You spelled it wrong :chuckles:

pjtoadie
07-10-2009, 03:25 PM
I will spell it out.
W-A-L-L-Y S-C-Z-E-R-B-I-A-K
As you will note, there is no "D"

:chuckles:

hendrix2430
07-10-2009, 03:26 PM
Hahah, Wally our stretch 4? That's funny.

More like our 4 in a stretcher

TheBigLeBronski
07-10-2009, 03:26 PM
You spelled it wrong :chuckles:

Yeah I forgot the silent "D" right?

castor777
07-10-2009, 03:31 PM
Don't laugh before you think about it but Z could end up playing the 4. He's abit slow but man can he shoot.

I thought about it. I am laughing.

One of the best things about getting Shaq was the fact that it will limit both his and Z's minutes. We will no longer need to ask upon them to play for long minutes and we'll actually have the opportunity to rest them for a game at a time here and there to keep them fresh.

Now you're talking about STARTING both of them??? It wouldn't take much coaching for the other team, just run a full court offense and 6 minutes into the 1st quarter both Shaq and Z will be worn out for the rest of the night.

These are older guys that haven't been fast players to begin with, and you want them on the floor at the same time as our STARTING FRONT COURT??? Late in games I'm sure we'll put them in for defensive purposes and things like that, but there's no way in hell you start both of them or play them together for significant minutes throughout the game.

Mike C
07-10-2009, 03:32 PM
Doesn't the fact that Wally Szczerbiak was better than Channing Frye last year prove just how little Frye would have helped this team?

Wally would give you more production than Frye if you put him at the power forward for 10 minutes a game.

People need to stop obsessing about the fourth big man, it makes them talk crazy. Do you really think that Channing Frye/Wally Szczerbiak/Joe Smith/Antonio McDyess are really the key to the Championship?

Smooth
07-10-2009, 03:34 PM
The first page of this post is the epitome of this board right now: crap..

There's no need to blurt out every single thought in your head and end up making one sentence filler posts that you think is funny...

godfather
07-10-2009, 03:34 PM
What has our world come to, when we're discussing Wally in the off-season.

cschneider27
07-10-2009, 03:39 PM
I will spell it out.
W-A-L-L-Y S-C-Z-E-R-B-I-A-K
As you will note, there is no "D"

What do you mean? Don't you remember his block from this past year against the Celtics!?
:chuckles:

Triplethreat
07-10-2009, 03:40 PM
I will spell it out.
W-A-L-L-Y S-Z-C-Z-E-R-B-I-A-K
As you will note, there is no "D"

Sorry, but that was bugging me

Personally, I like the idea, it would only be a short period of time and he looked OK at the 4 in limited time last year. He can still shoot it and would be good there. He would have a ton of looks from LeBron and Shaq it would be rediculous.

Wulfgar1224
07-10-2009, 03:41 PM
I don't want Wally anywhere near this team. I've seen enough of his wide open 3 point airballs.

HipHopSocialist
07-10-2009, 03:42 PM
no.

cav jvl
07-10-2009, 03:42 PM
That would be great for other teams fast breaks. Shaq + Z against a quick team = alot of 3 on 5 fast break points for the other team.

There would be few opportunities with LBJ Shaq and Z in there plus if they did get the chance LBJ will just run them down.

Norm
07-10-2009, 03:43 PM
Your suggestion is a bit of a "stretch"

Splitz
07-10-2009, 03:44 PM
The only thing that Wally can stretch is a few extra days out of a bottle of hair gel.



The first page of this post is the epitome of this board right now: crap..

There's no need to blurt out every single thought in your head and end up making one sentence filler posts that you think is funny...

That's kinda my thing Smooth, don't handcuff me here.

samtheman67
07-10-2009, 03:46 PM
Lol @ people thinking channing frye is any good.. you would be begging for wally back by mid season with that scrub..

xAusT1n
07-10-2009, 03:46 PM
psh the only thing Wally can stretch is his arm.....http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/03/medium_wallys.jpg

Mike C
07-10-2009, 03:46 PM
The first page of this post is the epitome of this board right now: crap..

There's no need to blurt out every single thought in your head and end up making one sentence filler posts that you think is funny...

Way to slow that down, buddy...

LyXo
07-10-2009, 03:54 PM
:bigcry:

Is this the reality...

Lee
07-10-2009, 03:56 PM
Wally is not nearly as bad as people think. We are talking about the 9th or 10th option for our team. We are talking about a guy who hustles and is a career 40% 3 point shooter. Yes he has been slowed down considerably...but in his prime he was an all-star. He can play 3 positions, no none of them above average...but no one hustles more than this guy. I find it alot less frustrating to watch a guy get beat on D because he isnt fast enough than watching guys get beat because they dont put in the effort.

Also, the reason we lost frye might be the reason wally and/or joe is what we will end up with. With this current team, how much time does the "stretch" pf get? There will be zero minutes at center, as z and shaq have that locked down. AV will play 30 minutes min at pf. That leaves what 18 at pf? How many of those go to lebron? 8? 10? They have already talked about puting lebron at pf even more than last year. So, a guy has to come in and be ok with getting only 8 or 10 minutes a game and be part of something biggier....and if that doesnt beat all, you have 2 young guys starring you down for playing time in JJ and DJ. DJ has been consistant enough with his jumper, defense and rebounding that he might demand more time with his play....thats not even to menthon if green proves he belongs on a nba court....forcing even less minutes at the 2 foward spots.

The extra minutes wont becoming form shaq's court time or z's court time...and they sure as hell wont come from Lebrons. We are just lucky we have 2 proven vets willing to come back and play their limmited role. Only reason I say dont lock them both up right now is because wally could prove to be even more imortant in a sign and trade scenerio.

Splitz
07-10-2009, 03:58 PM
At this point in his career something tells me that Wally wouldn't exactly be thrilled at the prospect of full time 4 duties. I keep remembering him getting backed down by stronger players with that disturbing grimmace on his face. The guy is down for the cause and certainly wouldn't complain but I don't want to subject him or us to that. Wally should be where Lee suggested, on the bench , in a suit, sipping on a virgin pina coloda. Purely insurance...

Lee
07-10-2009, 04:01 PM
At this point in his career something tells me that Wally wouldn't exactly be thrilled at the prospect of full time 4 duties. I keep remembering him getting backed down by stronger players with that disturbing grimmace on his face. The guy is down for the cause and certainly wouldn't complain but I don't want to sibject him or us to that. Wally should be where Lee suggested, on the bench sipping, in a suit, sipping on a virgin pina coloda. Purely insurance...

I want both him and joe to come back to us. If you look at that roster...it is very solid. We lost Ben, sasha and wright and replaced them with shaq, parker and green. Holy crap...are you serious? This is coming from a team that won 66 games and they make that big of improvements. Look at the big picture people. Incredible offseason. I believe people are just negative because they just arent smart enough to know better.

TheBigLeBronski
07-10-2009, 04:03 PM
Wally realy stretches for this one.
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Scrote Squad
07-10-2009, 04:08 PM
This thread is a joke. Here is a list, off the top of my head, of people Wally would have to guard as our "stretch" four:
KG
TD
Jamison
Bosh
Rashard Lewis
Pau
Amare
Dirk
J. Smith
Al Jefferson

Wally as the "stretch" four = epic fail.

Cavatt
07-10-2009, 04:09 PM
I really think Wally Disappears in the playoffs. He looked like a guy that slacked off after he got his contract after the deadline too. I just can't defend him anymore after what I saw against orlando.

basmets
07-10-2009, 04:09 PM
Haha I definitely hope not, I was more thinking along the lines of GLEN DAVIS!

OU Bobcatz
07-10-2009, 04:10 PM
I want a real stretch 4. Wally does not qualify. Ferry must work his magic via trade to find the stretch 4 needed to start next to Shaq. And the guy doesn't have to be a star player. The stretch 4 only needs to be able to hit open jump shots, rebound a little and play average, smart defense. It would be nice if this stretch 4 is versatile and fast enough to keep up with shooting 4's like Rashard Lewis or Rasheed Wallace.

Andy could contribute so much more to this team by coming off the bench. And as others have said, it doesn't matter who starts the game, but who finishes the game. Andy will be in the lineup if MB wants to protect a small lead, or if the team wants to go small with Andy at center.

Clevelandfan15
07-10-2009, 04:10 PM
This thread is a joke. Here is a list, off the top of my head, of people Wally would have to guard as our "stretch" four:
KG
TD
Jamison
Bosh
Rashard Lewis
Pau
Amare
Dirk
J. Smith
Al Jefferson

Wally as the "stretch" four = epic fail.

I doubt Wally would be guarding those guys. He wouldn't start. He would be lucky to get 10 min per game.

WitnessMoBoobie
07-10-2009, 04:15 PM
Who else would smack Lebron's ass and have funny white boys dances on the bench?

Damien O'Connel
07-10-2009, 04:15 PM
our stretch 4 would be starting, what's the point of having him come off the bench when we ONLY need him when lebron and shaq are together and lebron is playing the 3?

Real Deal
07-10-2009, 04:16 PM
:gtfo:

Haha you always gotta love these responses

Vindicate2
07-10-2009, 04:17 PM
I agree with you that this is not as bad as people think, however, I could see some of Z/Shaq minutes reduced based on matchups. Most teams will not be able to compete with the Cavs in the paint/down low, so I see the non-elite teams going "small" to try and get a speed advantage.

If they are successful with that type of line-up, I could see AV getting some time at center most likely at the expense of Z minutes. I don't think it will happen alot, but I think you can expect the backup PF to get more minutes against running teams. With that said, I think Joe can fill that gap with DJ and JJ. Plus, I like the idea of having some money available if someone gets bought out during the year. Could come in very handy if we have any significant injuries next season. I would try to sign Joe (BAE) and Wally (assuming a S&T is not available can be used as a trading chip at the deadline if nothing else... Wally doesn't count against the MLE, so that is still available if someone gets bought out) at this point.


Wally is not nearly as bad as people think. We are talking about the 9th or 10th option for our team. We are talking about a guy who hustles and is a career 40% 3 point shooter. Yes he has been slowed down considerably...but in his prime he was an all-star. He can play 3 positions, no none of them above average...but no one hustles more than this guy. I find it alot less frustrating to watch a guy get beat on D because he isnt fast enough than watching guys get beat because they dont put in the effort.

Also, the reason we lost frye might be the reason wally and/or joe is what we will end up with. With this current team, how much time does the "stretch" pf get? There will be zero minutes at center, as z and shaq have that locked down. AV will play 30 minutes min at pf. That leaves what 18 at pf? How many of those go to lebron? 8? 10? They have already talked about puting lebron at pf even more than last year. So, a guy has to come in and be ok with getting only 8 or 10 minutes a game and be part of something biggier....and if that doesnt beat all, you have 2 young guys starring you down for playing time in JJ and DJ. DJ has been consistant enough with his jumper, defense and rebounding that he might demand more time with his play....thats not even to menthon if green proves he belongs on a nba court....forcing even less minutes at the 2 foward spots.

The extra minutes wont becoming form shaq's court time or z's court time...and they sure as hell wont come from Lebrons. We are just lucky we have 2 proven vets willing to come back and play their limmited role. Only reason I say dont lock them both up right now is because wally could prove to be even more imortant in a sign and trade scenerio.

Prime 1978
07-10-2009, 04:17 PM
This thread is a joke. Here is a list, off the top of my head, of people Wally would have to guard as our "stretch" four:
KG
TD
Jamison
Bosh
Rashard Lewis
Pau
Amare
Dirk
J. Smith
Al Jefferson

Wally as the "stretch" four = epic fail.

You are stretching it in regards to who he will be guarding because he'd be guarding second unit guys or guys like himself playing out of position. Guys like Kleiza, Darius Songalia, and Adres Nocioni. I remember Wally having trouble guarding these type of players so to answer the question to the OP, No, I hope we aren't considering going this route.

ajz20
07-10-2009, 04:19 PM
The Cleveland Rockers folded a long time ago.

LOL

COME ONE WALLY ISNOT A STETCH 4 FOR CSU

TheBigLeBronski
07-10-2009, 04:20 PM
I want a real stretch 4. Wally does not qualify. Ferry must work his magic via trade to find the stretch 4 needed to start next to Shaq. And the guy doesn't have to be a star player. The stretch 4 only needs to be able to hit open jump shots, rebound a little and play average, smart defense. It would be nice if this stretch 4 is versatile and fast enough to keep up with shooting 4's like Rashard Lewis or Rasheed Wallace.

Andy could contribute so much more to this team by coming off the bench. And as others have said, it doesn't matter who starts the game, but who finishes the game. Andy will be in the lineup if MB wants to protect a small lead, or if the team wants to go small with Andy at center.

I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown. I want to see it to, but I realized that its not in the Stars for that to happen. Cavs got 2 roster spots open, 2.?? mil to work with. 1 spot goes to Joe or Wally, the other spot goes to that 2.?? mil. Maybe we could trade Wally, for something, but thats a real long shot.

Andy is going to start, and Ferry is going to find the 8th/9th man in the rotation.

Douglar
07-10-2009, 04:22 PM
Wally should be off the team simply for that horrifc airball that he shot in the playoffs this year. Application: Denied!!

Lee
07-10-2009, 04:25 PM
our stretch 4 would be starting, what's the point of having him come off the bench when we ONLY need him when lebron and shaq are together and lebron is playing the 3?

I am tired of people who cant seem to think for them selves. OK...shaq and z get 100% of the center minutes. The starting pf will get 30 mins. Lets assume Lebron gets zero minutes at pf (although danny and mb have said differently) that leaves about 18 mins for another big...ie the bench pf. So if our"stretch" pf starts, are you trying to say Danny just spent 42.5 million on a guy he expects to play 15-18 mins a game?

Are the mass crowds on this board that stupid? Unless we some how get Bosh, Amare or Allredge, Andy will be our starting pf next year. Channing, Arieza, Klieza, etc...no one is going to change that. Period. Get over it..move on.

We are looking for a 10-15 min a guy rotational player. Heck, hot buttered donny could almost fill that void.

demondeacs13
07-10-2009, 04:30 PM
http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/this-thread-sucks/1/bobs-stupid.jpg

ZissisKilla
07-10-2009, 04:30 PM
We'd be better off playing D-Block at the four all year than Wally.

Maybe Wally would be better at first, but D-Block would look like Karl Malone in the playoffs compared to the incredible disappearing Wally.

OU Bobcatz
07-10-2009, 04:45 PM
I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown. I want to see it to, but I realized that its not in the Stars for that to happen. Cavs got 2 roster spots open, 2.?? mil to work with. 1 spot goes to Joe or Wally, the other spot goes to that 2.?? mil. Maybe we could trade Wally, for something, but thats a real long shot.

Andy is going to start, and Ferry is going to find the 8th/9th man in the rotation.

I wouldn't be let down, I was just simply stating a need and expressing my dislike for Wally. Ferry seems to be able to pleasantly surprise when no one expects it. I don't see Andy starting as a problem, especially when you have 4 other guys that can score in the starting lineup. But I would prefer him coming off the bench in order to make the team deeper.

Also keep in mind that if a trade is pulled off for a 4, guys would be shipped out too. The number of roster spots would not be an issue.

gijimbo
07-10-2009, 04:47 PM
If anything, Joe Smith would be our stretch 4.

Exactly.. I mean i love Wally's hustle, and I think maybe he could bring something to the team for the vets. min.. but nothing more than that, he is just too undersized to be playing the 4 consistently for us.. I could NOT see that happening.. and I'd love to see Joe Smith in there and I believe that given the opportunity he could be very solid next to Shaq. That's my choice for our stretch 4 at this point.

TheBigLeBronski
07-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Also keep in mind that if a trade is pulled off for a 4, guys would be shipped out too. The number of roster spots would not be an issue.

True, but the guys shipped out might be guys Ferry wants to keep or guys that no team wants. To make anyone seriously interested in a trade you have to give them boobie, jj, eyenga, 1st round picks, wally, 1st born children, and cash. And even then they would probably laugh at you.

OU Bobcatz
07-10-2009, 04:53 PM
True, but the guys shipped out might be guys Ferry wants to keep or guys that no team wants. To make anyone seriously interested in a trade you have to give them boobie, jj, eyenga, 1st round picks, wally, 1st born children, and cash. And even then they would probably laugh at you.

What if the 1st born child is Lebron's son?:D

Gimme Some Mo
07-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Instead of Wally being our stretch "4", we should just tell LBJ to man up and guard the PF, which we all know he can do. Go out and get another swingman with what we have left to spend and play him at SF and LBJ at PF.

TheBigLeBronski
07-10-2009, 04:55 PM
What if the 1st born child is Lebron's son?:D

Then you have to send extra cash, cus Im sure that kid is used to the money.

SuperSurge
07-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Start Z and Shaq.

Z was relegated to taking nothing but jumpshots and even taking 3's from the corner. He's outside anyway.

All we would need is for Z to turn, take 3 or four running steps, and he's back on D.

The only difference is now he doesn't have to force himself to go down low. He doesn't want to post up anymore. He physically can't against most centers/pf's anyway.

I think he has a better 15+ ft. jumper than any 4 we can run out there.

I like this lineup better than anything else we can use.

Shaq
Z
LeBron
Delonte
Mo

Book it Dan-o!

Prime 1978
07-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Start Z and Shaq.

Z was relegated to taking nothing but jumpshots and even taking 3's from the corner. He's outside anyway.

All we would need is For Z to turn, take 3 or four running steps, and he's back on D.

The only difference is now he doesn't have to force himself to go down low. He doesn't want to post up anymore. He physically can't against most centers/pf's anyway.

I think he has a better 15+ ft. jumper than any 4 we can run out there.

I like this lineup better than anything else we can use.

Shaq
Z
LeBron
Delonte
Mo

Book it Dan-o!


You do that and Garnett light's us up for 50, Chris Bosh might give Kobe a run for his 80, Rashard Lewis would set the NBA record for 3's. A mobile Andy couldn't guard him much less a sloooow Z.

I could go on forever about bad matchups this would cause but you get the picture. Not to mention with Shaq being bad on pick and roll who'd cover for him because Z definitely wouldn't be able to rotate over.

The only time I'd be okay seeing this lineup is if we play the Lakers and both Bynum and Gasol are on the floor. Other than that...Hecks no!!!

Gimme Some Mo
07-10-2009, 05:07 PM
Start Z and Shaq.

Z was relegated to taking nothing but jumpshots and even taking 3's from the corner. He's outside anyway.

All we would need is For Z to turn, take 3 or four running steps, and he's back on D.

The only difference is now he doesn't have to force himself to go down low. He doesn't want to post up anymore. He physically can't against most centers/pf's anyway.

I think he has a better 15+ ft. jumper than any 4 we can run out there.

I like this lineup better than anything else we can use.

Shaq
Z
LeBron
Delonte
Mo

Book it Dan-o!

It would work offensively, but whoever was guarding the PF would get owned.

I could actually see it working occasionally though. Some people never want to see it, but it could work against teams that have a bad offensive PF out there.

Against the elite teams, it might be able to work against LA and SA if they have Pau/Bynum and McDyess/Duncan out there.

Z has guarded Dice and Gasol before. It could work occasionally, but it wouldn't be a regular lineup.

SuperSurge
07-10-2009, 05:08 PM
You do that and Garnett light's us up for 50, Chris Bosh might give Kobe a run for his 80, Rashard Lewis would set the NBA record for 3's. A mobile Andy couldn't guard him much less a sloooow Z.

I could go on forever about bad matchups this would cause but you get the picture. Not to mention with Shaq being bad on pick and roll who'd cover for him because Z definitely wouldn't be able to rotate over.

The only time I'd be okay seeing this lineup is if we play the Lakers and both Bynum and Gasol are on the floor. Other than that...Hecks no!!!

I was talking about offense. On defense, couldn't a zone help that out?

Brother Redbush
07-10-2009, 05:08 PM
wally as a stretch 4 would serve his purpose. he'd pull the pf out on the floor to keep him honest out on the perimter. that's the primary objective.

now, kleiza would do the same, and be a natural player at that given position, but, would be more difficult to acquire since he's restricted and other such things. wally we could land at a fair price, and he wouldn't use any exception moneey etc.

plus he could be a piece that could work in a future trade because we could structure his cpontract accordingly to make it a valued asset down the road.

signing wally may not be glamorous, but, it could serve some purposes not only on the court, but also in regards to roster and future trade logistics. he'd leave some valued exceptions still in our back pocket, and a properly structured contract could eventually bring us something down the road.

more to it than just a player-position on the roster issue when signing wally.

Radar
07-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Would you seriously want wally to play,far more start after what he done the past two playoffs with us??? He done nothing but go cold and shot bricks and airballs...On top of that is "D" is suspect...If he comes back it should just be to have on the bench and thats it

If i was ferry i would try to find a trade for a stretch 4 but if not our options are:kleiza,joe...Hopefully green can have a courtney lee season

Prime 1978
07-10-2009, 05:10 PM
I was talking about offense. On defense, couldn't a zone help that out?


Mike Brown hates Zones and even still one of them would be force to extend out to the 3 point zone if they run a 2-3 zone. If they did a 3-2 the offensive rebounds opportunities would kill us.

Good Zones work because of quick rotations...Having Z and Shaq out there won't put us in the best position to do that.

APW2914
07-10-2009, 05:13 PM
wally as a stretch 4 would serve his purpose. he'd pull the pf out on the floor to keep him honest out on the perimter. that's the primary objective.

now, kleiza would do the same, and be a natural player at that given position, but, would be more difficult to acquire since he's restricted and other such things. wally we could land at a fair price, and he wouldn't use any exception moneey etc.

plus he could be a piece that could work in a future trade because we could structure his cpontract accordingly to make it a valued asset down the road.

signing wally may not be glamorous, but, it could serve some purposes not only on the court, but also in regards to roster and future trade logistics. he'd leave some valued exceptions still in our back pocket, and a properly structured contract could eventually bring us something down the road.

more to it than just a player-position on the roster issue when signing wally.


I agree completely with using Wally as trade bait...

But on the court Wally is not a 4 a 3 a 2 or anything. And Wally wouldn't pull anyone anywhere. He also does not serve any purpose on a basketball court, tennis court, volleyball court, etc.

Excluding signing him at a tradeable price...a fair price for Wally is zero.

Wally is a great guy and gives awesome ass slaps and high fives, but he is done, he is slower than Z and has become a worse shooter than Larry Hughes.

I might be playing around a little and exaggerating...but really? Wally? You must have not watched any of the games and just listened to them on the radio.

Gimme Some Mo
07-10-2009, 05:14 PM
If Wally is playing a role on this team this season, we're in trouble. The guy is a choke artist. Look at his past 2 seasons with us in the playoffs.

I wouldn't mind Wally coming back as the 10-12th guy, a depth signing, a guy that would only play in certain matchups or if there was an injury.

But if Wally comes back and is a consistent rotation player, we're not winning anything.


And to everyone saying sign Wally for 2 years at 4 mil a year with the 2nd year only being partially guaranteed...

Do you honestly believe Dan Gilbert is going to like paying Wally 4 mil this season just to HOPE that we could maybe trade him next summer? I don't think Gilbert would like that idea too much considering Wally is only worth 2 mil or so.

Taki
07-10-2009, 05:29 PM
Joe Smith is a much better option.

Dr. Gymbo
07-10-2009, 05:34 PM
In response to the question posed by the title of this thread:

:faint:

cavfanintexas
07-10-2009, 06:15 PM
I don't want Wally anywhere near this team. I've seen enough of his wide open 3 point airballs.

you do know that he was the second best 3pt shooter on the team?

Jon
07-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Not everything is about the playoffs, we have to get through the regular season first.

Wally can still help us if we can't find better.

covert_op
07-10-2009, 06:29 PM
Its not that bad of an idea ..

Wally is pretty strong and puts up a solid effort on the boards, he can stick with power forwards better than small forwards or 2 guards ...

Twenty minutes a game or so lined up with Shaq seems realistic to me... he wont be drastically overpaid .. so I'm not sure where all the vitriol for him would stem from... even when his shot is off he still works hard and contributes..

Shit, he's not "soft" so thats not an excuse against him ... he might be a nice guy, but he plays tough.

Having Wally's 3 point ability at the 4 spot would almost be ingenious in my opinion... similar to Delonte starting at the 2 spot last year.

Shaq will make it easier for anybody playing the 4 ... that combined with bron bron ...


I'm on board with that 'yo!