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cavincali
12-15-2005, 06:19 PM
he resigned a new 5 year deal which will make him a brownie until 2010

http://dawgtalk.clevelandbrowns.com/news_room/news/arts/4954.0.html

this is a good sign, he is our most talented linebacker and now phil can move his attention to other things like rube, FA and the draft.

PIP
12-15-2005, 06:49 PM
He is nothing more then average...

I can live with him... But it's not like he's a game changer...

LyXo
12-15-2005, 11:21 PM
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

:woohoo: :yay: :thumbup: :dance:

Andra is the man. Average? Perhaps. But he's our best linebacker, and it's good to have some loyalty & leadership on the team.

Him and Orpheus Roye. Lock 'em up.

ChicagoCavFan
12-15-2005, 11:21 PM
Nice find cali. Havent visited the Browns boards yet, since I've been gone all day.

Nice to learn my Brownie news on a Cavs board. Time to go see what is up over there.

Mac
12-15-2005, 11:53 PM
Agree with LePip...he is an above avg LB..he wont hurt our LB core, but he doesnt make it better.

Thompson is our most talented LB, he is going to be a very good LB once he puts it all together, he gets better every week.

But I do like this signing, Im glad he will be back.

Now lets get that kid from Penn St or Hawk in the draft..

cavincali
12-16-2005, 12:33 AM
Agree with LePip...he is an above avg LB..he wont hurt our LB core, but he doesnt make it better.

Thompson is our most talented LB, he is going to be a very good LB once he puts it all together, he gets better every week.

But I do like this signing, Im glad he will be back.

Now lets get that kid from Penn St or Hawk in the draft..

I got a little problem with this, if you put ray lewis in davis's shoes he isnt the great player that he is. Davis plays behind a terrible line and he still gets tackles. Yes some of them are 5 yards down field but lets be honest, i dont think any linebacker would be doing that much better.

He might not be a game changer, but if he was not playing for us right now our defense would be much worse.

PIP
12-16-2005, 12:42 AM
Did I just see the name Ray Lewis mentioned in the same paragraph with Andra Davis ? I going to pretend I didn't read that...

Bottom line, they have one thing in common, they're both black...

Mac
12-16-2005, 07:05 AM
The thing is, Lewis makes things happen, Andra doesnt.

You wont see Andra blowing a block up and making a huge tackle, but he makes sold tackles and doesnt make a lot of mistakes.

TrueCavsFan23
12-16-2005, 04:06 PM
andra is solid like when he spied palmer on that play even tho it looked like palmer never saw him.last time i checked he was 3rd in the nfl in tackles.he had 20 in week 2 against the packers,i rly love the signing.chaun thompson is the most talented but he hasnt hit the full potential yet,chaun was ready to be a bust until this year he started proving its coming together.

cavincali
12-16-2005, 05:48 PM
ok, watch the times when the ravens play against a team with a superior line, the chiefs for one, and he got dominated, manhandeld. im not saying davis is as good as lewis pipp, but once again you are to slow to make conclusions. :weirdo:

PIP
12-16-2005, 05:58 PM
I am concluding awfully fast that you're absolutely showing signs of autism to compare the two... How is that ?

Andra is barely in Donnie Edwards class much less Ray's...

Have you ever thought about the fact that teams will ZERO in on Ray in their game plans because of his greatness..

He is a top 5 LB of all time (probably top 3)

Teams go into games trying to stop Ray... I'm sure they don't game plan for 'DRA..

cavincali
12-16-2005, 08:26 PM
first off how would you know and secondly i never said that davis was as good as lewis, why is this so hard for you to understand.

PIP
12-16-2005, 09:13 PM
first off how would you know and secondly i never said that davis was as good as lewis, why is this so hard for you to understand. I never said that you said that... HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Did I just see the name Ray Lewis mentioned in the same paragraph with Andra Davis ? I going to pretend I didn't read that...

Bottom line, they have one thing in common, they're both black...

SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT......


I am concluding awfully fast that you're absolutely showing signs of autism to compare the two... How is that ?

Andra is barely in Donnie Edwards class much less Ray's...

Have you ever thought about the fact that teams will ZERO in on Ray in their game plans because of his greatness..

He is a top 5 LB of all time (probably top 3)

Teams go into games trying to stop Ray... I'm sure they don't game plan for 'DRA..

Mr. Cali, you were the individual that brought the name Andra Davis into that, and compared their situations, not me...

You were the one that said "if you put ray lewis in davis's shoes he isnt the great player that he is".

I never brought him up... You did, dumbass... So I ask, what are you not understanding ?

If you can say Lewis would not be the player that he is if he was here... I can say Davis is not as great of a player as some other LB's...

Quit bringing me down to your level... :thumbdown ... I will have none of it.. :chuckles:

cavincali
12-16-2005, 09:45 PM
you are so dumb.

"did i see the name Ray Lewis in the same sentence as Andra Davis?" i wonder what the heck you are trying to say their...

than you compare davis to donnie edwards, "much less Ray's" i once again wonder what the heck you are trying to say...

its not complicated bro, or can you not read between the lines.

i said that lewis would not be the great player that he is today if he played in our defense, what is so hard to understand. its not complicated. dumbass. ;)

Mac
12-16-2005, 09:50 PM
I think Ray would...he is a monster. He plays on a very good team and that helps, but great LBs will be great LBs regardless of the system.

Now avg LBs and be good LBs in a system, ie. Teddy B in NE, Cowart when he was in Buff, Sharper in Balti...etc..etc..

LyXo
12-16-2005, 09:56 PM
Is Teddy Bruschi an average LB? Really? He plays with intensity and ferocity... he gets to the ball and creates turnovers... I doubt he's just a product of the system, he has much individual talent and is definitely not average.

PIP
12-16-2005, 10:15 PM
you are so dumb.

"did i see the name Ray Lewis in the same sentence as Andra Davis?" i wonder what the heck you are trying to say their...

than you compare davis to donnie edwards, "much less Ray's" i once again wonder what the heck you are trying to say...

its not complicated bro, or can you not read between the lines.

i said that lewis would not be the great player that he is today if he played in our defense, what is so hard to understand. its not complicated. dumbass. ;)

Exactly my point... You are basically saying he is a product of the system...

Ray would be just as good... He is Ray Lewis... Perhaps the defense as a whole would not be..

Just because he had Sam Adams, the goose, and Boulware does not mean they are the reason he is what he is...

What a dumb thing to say.... I'm sure L.T was only the greatest of all time because of Pepper Johnson and Carl Banks ;)

THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, SO READ CAREFULLY :

"RAY LEWIS WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS GOOD IN HIS CAREER NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS"

HE MADE BOULWARE A PRO BOWLER AND THAT DEFENSE AROUND HIM BETTER...IF HE WAS A BROWN ? HE WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS DOMINANT...AND QUITE POSSIBLY, THE PLAYERS AROUND HIM WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER..

DRA' WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN B-MORE THEN HE HAS HERE...HE IS WHAT HE IS (AVERAGE) RAY IS WHAT HE IS (ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME)

THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING....I HOPE IT WAS CLEAR... THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME :chuckles:

PIP
12-16-2005, 10:19 PM
I think Ray would...he is a monster. He plays on a very good team and that helps, but great LBs will be great LBs regardless of the system.

Now avg LBs and be good LBs in a system, ie. Teddy B in NE, Cowart when he was in Buff, Sharper in Balti...etc..etc..
THANK YOU...Exactly...

Yes, Bill B. made Mcginest (a converted DE), Vrabel, and Bruschi very good line backers...

You never heard of any of these guys before he got there (except Willie, who was a top 5 pick in 93 or 94)...

cavincali
12-16-2005, 11:42 PM
OK PIPP WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND, I SAID LEWIS WOULD NOT BE AS GOOD YET YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS. WHY IS THIS. IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER BECASUE HES NEVER GOING TO BE A BROWN.

ok guy :thumbup:

on a side note ben taylor would never be good in any system, even in the steel curtain.

PIP
12-17-2005, 12:30 AM
We can just say this...

I'm right, you're wrong... Nothing different there...

The more things change, the more they stay the same... I'm superior.. :thumbup:

cavincali
12-17-2005, 01:16 AM
and your sister has big oven mitts. :rolleyes:

PIP
12-17-2005, 02:03 AM
Her problem, not mine...

RuanuLaw
12-17-2005, 09:27 AM
1. Cali, controll urself outside of OT.

2. Ray Lewis is WAY OVERRATED! The play can be nearly over (the player is tackled, but the wistle hasn't blown yet), and Ray Ray will just jump on the pile and be credited for a tackle. HALF his tackles are fake!

3. Sure, Ray can be a playmaker, but his bread and butter were when he was getting those 20+ tackle nights. And like I said before, only HALF should even be considered his! PLUS, I can't stand it when RAY RAY gets up and celebrates for a fake tackle.

4. Davis is very good, but not a playmaker. When Davis gets his 20+ games, it is because he was the one making them, and not just jumping on the pile.

5. I'd rather have 4 Andra Davis', than 4 Ray Lewis'. For one, Andra is a Blue Collor player. If our team was filled with players like him, we'd be in the playoffs. Second, I couldn't stand watching 4 Ray Lewis' on the field celebrating. I'd probably shoot myself.....or the TV! Plus, Suggs in now doing the dance too!

6. Ray's dance is like a retarded ballerina on crack!

Mac
12-17-2005, 09:54 AM
Ill take four Ray Lewis's any day of the week...that would be the best LB core in the history of football.

He doesnt get credit for jumping on the pile, you only get a credited tackle if A, you take him down, or B, some guy has a hold of him but it takes two of you to take him down.

I dont like how much he parades around as much as the next guy, but his talent is so much higher than the most LBs, even now when he is getting older, he is still up there in talent.

I wish we still had Jamir Miller, he was my fav player....some of the young bucks would love him. You would have saw what a real LB is like, that is why people hope Chaun can develope because he can be just like Jamir. Just not as big, but faster.

RuanuLaw
12-17-2005, 10:18 AM
He doesnt get credit for jumping on the pile

Dude, YES HE DOES! This crap actually became national news. Expecially even when SI called out Ray Lewis and the Stat Keepers of Baltimore! Yahoo Sports did the same thing. Somebody I forget from ESPN said the same thing. They all bitched that Ray Lewis is credited WAY too many tackles!

Go look at some of his old games. Before watch, go back and find out how many tackles he was rewarded. THEN go back and watch the real game. And keep track of how many tackles u would rightfully award him. NOW go and compare what u would give him and what he actually got! (Make sure you watch a game played in Balitmore. You will see how rediculous that crap gets!)

No, I would not like 4 Ray Lewis'. Why? Would you want 4 T.O's? No. They demand that the whole Deffense/Offense revolves around them. Heck, 4 Ray Rays would kill eachother before they can get on the field. For one, they would fight before the games over who has the best dance!

A Mac, I respect your beleifs, but this is a subject me and a few have been following for a couple of years now. We have analyzed this crap. And I would have to say that SUNDAY NIGHT ESPN Crew is by far the worse. You know those 3 midgets in the booth? Ya, if it was up to them, RAY RAY would have 40+ tackles a game. They are the biggest RAY LOVERS in the land! They ride his jock everytime The Ravens play on ESPN!

Mac
12-17-2005, 10:47 AM
He may get credit for those, but by logic he shouldnt, i dunno, ive never seen those articles.

But as four the TO, Ray Ray comparison, thats two totally different things. Ray is such a smart player, does everything a team asks of him, he would be a defenses dream. He isnt out of control like TO is, however, I would take two TOs as my WRs to. Yes, he may speak his mind, but if everything is cool and he is treated the way he think is right, then he has no problems, ie like last year in Philly.

Ray though has never been anything less than a great team mate.

RuanuLaw
12-17-2005, 11:33 AM
He may get credit for those, but by logic he shouldnt, i dunno, ive never seen those articles.

But as four the TO, Ray Ray comparison, thats two totally different things. Ray is such a smart player, does everything a team asks of him, he would be a defenses dream. He isnt out of control like TO is, however, I would take two TOs as my WRs to. Yes, he may speak his mind, but if everything is cool and he is treated the way he think is right, then he has no problems, ie like last year in Philly.

Ray though has never been anything less than a great team mate.

I dig. I can't really argue with that. Although, I don't like RAy as a person, I like his talents!

PIP
12-17-2005, 02:45 PM
OVEN MITTS... :chuckles:

RuanuLaw
12-17-2005, 05:04 PM
OVEN MITTS... :chuckles:

His swearing was becoming OTeayor-like! Either I deleted his post, then I would have to delete urs too cause yours would not make sense. OR, I just edited his post to be more friendly.

*Waits for CDT to come out the bushes and complain about power trips*

PIP
12-17-2005, 05:12 PM
Cali is a train-wreck waiting to happen...

RuanuLaw
12-17-2005, 05:15 PM
Cali is a train-wreck waiting to happen...

:chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles:

Good one, but I don't want to spread a fight in here like Cali's herpes' outbreak! Lets take it to OT!

hughes1988
12-17-2005, 05:17 PM
davis is the MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER IN THE NFL thats right i said it cuz he is. even people here are cutting him down, this guy goes out there games after game and kicks ass, he picks off passes and THAT IS A GAME CHANGING PLAY DUH!!!!!! and he is still pretty young and will get even better.

RuanuLaw
12-17-2005, 05:47 PM
he picks off passes and THAT IS A GAME CHANGING PLAY DUH!!!!!! .

He did that ONCE in a long time. So lets not get way ahead of ourselves. I do agree though. He is very underrated!

cdt
12-17-2005, 05:55 PM
A long time ago? Try two weeks ago :chuckles: And you were actually right on about it this time, no personal attacks in here, leave it for OT but the other things you said were whack..don't cop an attitude or anything its no biggty.

RuanuLaw
12-18-2005, 02:58 AM
A long time ago?

Where do u see AGO? in my post? I know it happened. He intercepted Palmer. But that is pretty much the ONLY ONE IN A LONG TIME! (CDT, "Long Time", not "long time AGO"!)