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Dortch316
02-19-2010, 04:06 PM
I am going to start this Tread off by guessing that there are those who believe that LeBron should never be traded and that this Thread should be locked up.... well let me say that those people are either blind fans or just stupid.... ANYONE and EVERYONE has a price.

I agree that is next to impossible that the Cavs would ever consider trading LeBron, but that isn't the question... what each team be able to offer that would at least have Ferry not hanging up the phone immediately.

I thought of this idea after reading Bill Simmons's colum on trade value and it got me thinking about what deal would the Cavs consider for Lebron.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100208/one

A couple of things to consider, when I am writing this:

1) If I can make it work in a trade machine I will if not ohh well (and I will state as such).
2) I am making basic assumption that players are on the same team that they currently are on.
3) I am making the basic assumption that players will continue to make the same ammount of $ they are currently making.
4) I am not getting into complicated 3 and 4 team trades... it is a basic swap of talent/salary for Lebron.
5) I AM ASSUMING LEBRON HAS TO BE TRADED!!!

Atlanta

Al Horford, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith for A. Jamison and LeBron

This trade works $ wise and it seems like one of the better deals that would arise for the Cavs. They would get huge upgrades at SG and PF and get a young 5 in return.

I think this is a fair enough trade that both teams would @ least not hang up on one another.

Boston
Ray Allen, K. Garnett, P. Pierce, Big Baby for Shaq, Lebron, Andy, and A. Jamison

Let me say that I think the Celtics make this trade in a heart beat. The big 3 I feel have won the 1 title they will win and if the Celtics have to start over might as well do it with the best player in the leauge.

No way the Cavs would listen though. Biggest Reason, does anyone else feel that KG is a shadow of his former self and he will never regain those days again.... I do and I wouldn't make this trade even if I was promised a title in Cleveland.

Bobcats

Yeah I know... NO WAY but I said I would go through every team.

This trade works but no way Ferry even picks up the phone for this one.

S. Jax and G. Wallace for Lebron and D. Jackson

Bulls

I could do this trade 2 ways but decided that the only way that I think the Cavs would listen is if it went as follows.

Rose, Deng, and Noah for Lebron (note trade works with and without Noah)

The reason I think the Cavs MIGHT listen to this trade is Rose is a franshice PG (they could trade Mo who isn't), Noah has proven to be a great young 5 (and they could drop Shaq's monster deal... also imagine the all hustle lineup of Noah and Andy), and Deng is very serviceable at the 3 spot to replace LBJ.

Still not happening but it is interesting.

Detroit

I tried but that Team is terrible. Honestly anyone who thinks that Dumars should ever be Exec of the Decade should be shot....

No Trade.

Pacers

This trade is only a thought if LeBron torched half of Cleveland on purpose and announced that if he wasn't traded he would burn the other half. Ok seriously, this would only happen if the Cavs were starting from scratch and wanted to stick it to LBJ for some reason.

Granger, Hibbert, Hansbourgh, Rush and Watson for LBJ

And then watch the Cavs drop every other big contract they have, it would be the how young can we go team....

Heat

LBJ and West for Wade and Beasley

Why Cavs listen... Superstar for Superstar and Beasley moves into the 3 (with Jamison) to but the best support cast around Wade (a guy who already has a ring)

Why Heat Listen... its LBJ

Why Cavs say no... Wade's career is going to be so much shorter due to injury... I feel like that is the NBAs little secret in Miami

Bucks

Nope... couldn't do it... tried to make it work with Bogut and Jennings and just laughed @ myself...

NO Trade.

Nets

Here is a killer folks... this might actually happen. It would be better to lose him in a sign and trade than him just leaving us. (For the record I don't think he leaves and even if he does there is no way he would ok the stripping of his new team in a Sign and Trade... he would be going there to win)

Yi, CDR, Harris, and Lopez for LBJ

And let the fire sale begin... I mean honestly what tallent would we keep. Bye Shaq, please someone take Jamison's huge deal, Mo needs to go thanks to Harris...

Unfortunately this is a possibility and I mean it just sounds like something that happens in Cleveland.

Knicks

Same as Nets... shoot me!

Only difference... I would demand that the Knicks take on even more salary and try to do what the Knicks did immediately... get expiring deals..

Mo, LBJ, A. Jamison for Gallinari, E. Curry's terrible contract, S. Rodriguez, Chandler, Mobley's Cripple Contract, David Lee, and E. House

Plus Drop Shaq and then offer to shoot anyone and everyone in 11 for Durant and/or Melo.

Magic

Howard and Ryan Anderson for LBJ

One of the deals that @ least would have the Cavs thinking... Still doesn't happen but it allows Shaq's contract to not be re-uped and it gives Cavs the dominat big man in the leauge with a team that seems bizzarly like the Magic team that beat the Cavs in the East.

Strech 4, Playmaker @ wings (not quiet but...), All Star shooters everywhere

Trade doesn't happen because Howard lacks killer instinct and pretty much everyone knows it. He is like Shaq when Shaq focuses on rap and not hoops. "I will be good enough for you to not think I am loafing"

76er's

This was the closest I came to saying NO Trade while still making a Trade.

AI2, Dalembert, and Brand for Shaq and LBJ

I think this is the threashold of Ferry Hanging up the phone. I just think that Cavs like the named (remember the premis is Lebron has to get traded)

Raptors

Bosh, Bargnani, and Hedo for LBJ and Shaq

Hedo fills in @ 3 (Jamison becomes best 6th man ever) and the Cavs are suddenly the deepest team in the leauge who can run any type of Offense and can probably still play very solid D.

Depsite people probably going to explode on me for this... I believe this is actually one of the more probable senerios that the Cavs would entertain and it suprised even me by saying that but look @ the new team it forms. Find a weakness.

Wizards

Come on this is the ultimate NO TRADE! It would be a million small expiring deals I guess.

Mavs

Butler, Kidd, and Dirk for LBJ, Mo, and Jamison

Talent wise fairly close... Age wise... no chance! but player for player it is pretty decent trade.... Note I didn't include Shaq in this one because the idea of him, Dirk, and Kidd playing together interests me for some reason

Nuggets

LBJ for Melo'

Strait up... probably the closest thing to a fair trade (age, ability, etc)

Neither team makes this trade because they would want to "win" the trade, which would mean getting an extra talented player to make it worth their wile.

Golden State

Another one of those... CAVS blow up the roster to go young....

LBJ and Parker for S. Curry, Beirdrins, RAndolph, Morrow, and B.Wright

And then let the fire sale of other older talent begin... bye bye Shaq contract, someone please come take Mo and Jamison... we are offering pennies on the dollar (expiring $)

Rockets

LBJ for a HEALTHY Y. Ming

Yao is never going to be healthy again (not that he ever was) so... moving on

Clippers

People think that Clippers are in the running for LBJ... but come on it's the Clippers. ASSUMING that LeBron announces he is signing w/ Clippers... so we need a sign and trade

Blake Griffin and 10 million in expiring deals (I would say Kaman but who can trust such a brain dead player ... and he is on my fantasy team!) for LBJ

Still not going to happen

Lakers

Kobe and Gasol for Shaq and LBJ

this is the one that I think both teams would actually consider. IF the Cavs are losing LBJ then they have to have a player who can make the world forget about it.... I.E KOBE. Other reasons this interests me.

1) Kobe's deepest team ever
2) LBJ gets his big market and becomes the next Laker great
3) the most valuable puppets commercial after the trade
4) Shaq's second version of Kobe how's my a$$ taste
5) if LBJ can't be our hero, it would be best to make him the ultimate villian

Memphis

NO TRADE... sorry any time you are trying to convince yourself that Z-Bo is a franchise player... SHOOT YOURSELF!

T'Wolves

Love, Rubio, and Jefferson for LBJ

The numbers work and that's about all I can say about this one... unless you really think Rubio is the next Magic (I do not) and that Love will lead the leauge in Boards for years (I do not) and that Jefferson is a franchise player (I do not)

Hornets

Paul, West, Caulison, and Okafor for LBJ, Mo, and West, Boobie Gibson

I included alot of guards because if you are going to change your franchise player to the best PG in the leauge then you need a play maker as his back up (and Cavs PGs are not play makers... they are shooters).

This is actually a trade again that I think breaks the top 5 of serious consideration. Shaq isn't resigned and the Cavs team is pretty Deep and the Hornets do it because LBJ puts butts in seats!

Thunder

NO TRADE... not because of Cavs though... the Thunder are proving to be the best ran team in the business and while the tallent level is equal between LBJ and Durrant...

Why would you mess with their system and take on additional salary and be forced to give up your young talent.

Thunder would probably be the only team that would hang up on the Cavs.

Suns

Nash and Amare for LBJ, Mo, and Parker

@ first I was going to say no trade but the more I thought about it... this would be the deepest and best team to support Nash (my second favorite player)

Shaq is out, Jamison probably moves to 3, and Andy becomes your starting 5. West is good enough of a defender to help Nash and the same is true of Andy with Amare. And again the depth of the Cavs allows Nash to never slow down on the offensive end... TERRIFYING (ok and maybe a little biased because of Nash)

Portland

LBJ and A. Jamison for Roy, Aldridge, and Oden

Another of the top 5 actually interesting trades.... Roy is a poor man's LBJ, Aldridge is younger than Jamison (and slightly different players @ the 4 but still), and Oden... well he is the potential (probably never will happen) but I would pay Shaq (prob less money) to teach the potential future best big man how to be THE MAN in the Middle.

Kings

No Trade... Come on who do they have... if you had to... expiring deals

Spurs

Pains me to say it because I respect the organization but... No Trade.

Duncan is winding down, never have been sold on Parker, and Manu is done (I mean stick a fork in him done)!

Sorry nope!

JAZZ

I don't make this trade but here it is....

Boozer (kill him), D-Will (I like his game but he isn't a franchise guy), and Milsap for Mo, LBJ, and A. Jamison



That's it, it's long and it will get torn appart (if anyone even reads it) but there you go... does anyone disagree with me (other than those who ignore the paramaters)

demondeacs13
02-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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Chris
02-19-2010, 04:11 PM
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ajz20
02-19-2010, 04:12 PM
this may qualify as the worst thread in the history of RCF. Congrats man:gtfo::gtfo::gtfo:



I am going to start this Tread off by guessing that there are those who believe that LeBron should never be traded and that this Thread should be locked up.... well let me say that those people are either blind fans or just stupid.... ANYONE and EVERYONE has a price.

ticon12389
02-19-2010, 04:12 PM
Wouldn't trade him for any combo of players/picks in the league

Spectre
02-19-2010, 04:12 PM
So many words for such an unnecessary post.

Snowblind
02-19-2010, 04:14 PM
:sbob:

brownsbuck6
02-19-2010, 04:15 PM
That is a whole lot of effort into such a horribly timed and ill conceived post. Wow.

chiefwahoo
02-19-2010, 04:17 PM
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-Akronite-
02-19-2010, 04:17 PM
You'd trade LBJ/Shaq for Kobe/Gasol?

Talent-wise that's a better deal than most the Cavs could get in this unlikely scenario. But, why on Earth would anyone want to see LBJ go to the Lakers in his prime. DON'T THEY HAVE ENOUGH ALREADY?

Kenny Hoggins
02-19-2010, 04:18 PM
Wow. We aren't the Indians. We don't trade away our good players thinking they are leaving.

Maximus
02-19-2010, 04:18 PM
I like the way Dortch is thinking....he's a realist and has balls. Unlike that pussy GM of ours that sleeps under his desk on his hands all day and doesn't do shit! Seriously...WHAT HAS FERRY DONE LATELY???? Sure he made the Jamison trade, but that was like 48 hours ago AND HE GAVE UP THE 32ND PICK IN THIS YEAR'S DRAFT.:mad:

It is a given we're going to lose Lebron to New York or China....Fairy needs to sack up and trade Lebron's ass for something...anything!!!

DO IT FERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

NorthCoastBias
02-19-2010, 04:19 PM
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col63onel
02-19-2010, 04:19 PM
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SoundBreaker
02-19-2010, 04:20 PM
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chiefwahoo
02-19-2010, 04:20 PM
Wow. We aren't the Indians. We don't trade away our good players thinking they are leaving.

Kenny Hoggins? :rofl:

Were you once Kenny Loggins but just let yourself go and gain like 200 pounds? You really need an avatar to illustrate this turn of events...

OsuBuckeye2
02-19-2010, 04:24 PM
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Photon
02-19-2010, 04:24 PM
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02-19-2010, 04:24 PM
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Kenny Hoggins
02-19-2010, 04:25 PM
Kenny Hoggins? :rofl:

Were you once Kenny Loggins but just let yourself go and gain like 200 pounds? You really need an avatar to illustrate this turn of events...

Remind me to come back and thank this post once I hit the magic number of 10 posts.

Ope, there I go about magic numbers again. Thank god someone else made the thread this year to take the heat off of me. :chuckles:

col63onel
02-19-2010, 04:26 PM
Hopefully, the mods keep this thread open and it becomes one big GIF off.....

Vlad
02-19-2010, 04:27 PM
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CzBoobie
02-19-2010, 04:28 PM
LOL

Brandname
02-19-2010, 04:32 PM
W.T.F.

hahahaha, are you kidding with some of this stuff? A selection of my favorite lines:

Why Cavs say no... Wade's career is going to be so much shorter due to injury... I feel like that is the NBAs little secret in Miami

Yi, CDR, Harris, and Lopez for LBJ

Unfortunately this is a possibility and I mean it just sounds like something that happens in Cleveland.

AI2, Dalembert, and Brand for Shaq and LBJ

I think this is the threashold of Ferry Hanging up the phone. I just think that Cavs like the named (remember the premis is Lebron has to get traded)

Butler, Kidd, and Dirk for LBJ, Mo, and Jamison

Talent wise fairly close



LBJ for Melo'

Strait up... probably the closest thing to a fair trade (age, ability, etc)

Neither team makes this trade because they would want to "win" the trade, which would mean getting an extra talented player to make it worth their wile.


Blake Griffin and 10 million in expiring deals (I would say Kaman but who can trust such a brain dead player ... and he is on my fantasy team!) for LBJ


NO TRADE... not because of Cavs though... the Thunder are proving to be the best ran team in the business and while the tallent level is equal between LBJ and Durrant...

Why would you mess with their system and take on additional salary and be forced to give up your young talent.

Thunder would probably be the only team that would hang up on the Cavs.

I.... I have no words.

bob2the2nd
02-19-2010, 04:33 PM
in all fairness I believe this probably qualifies as only the 2nd worst time thread in RCF. I do believe someone posted a "what should we do in the offseason" thread during the 07 detriot series.

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02-19-2010, 04:33 PM
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LondonCav
02-19-2010, 04:34 PM
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GlennMooreDSS
02-19-2010, 04:38 PM
The Cavaliers would never EVER trade LeBron.

You can't put an equal enough trade for him, unless it's Kobe.

dreamingof1964
02-19-2010, 04:40 PM
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Radar
02-19-2010, 04:40 PM
NEVER PUT LEBRON AND TRADE IN THE SAME SENTENCE...NEVER:thumbdown

narbar32
02-19-2010, 04:40 PM
especially hilarious is the notion that any team in the league would NOT trade whatever they had, plus their first born sons, for lebron.

Lebron, Durant, and Melo are all the same talent wise? wow.

Kenny Hoggins
02-19-2010, 04:41 PM
Alright. Time to go through and give thanks to all the funny posts here.

LondonCav
02-19-2010, 04:41 PM
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The gif folder is coming out now :D

chiefwahoo
02-19-2010, 04:44 PM
Jesus, I didn't even bother reading the original post all the way through until Brandname picked out the good parts for us.

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Amherstcavsfan
02-19-2010, 04:45 PM
Thunder

NO TRADE... not because of Cavs though... the Thunder are proving to be the best ran team in the business and while the tallent level is equal between LBJ and Durrant...

Why would you mess with their system and take on additional salary and be forced to give up your young talent.

Thunder would probably be the only team that would hang up on the Cavs.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/RwingVR6/Animated%20gifs/WhaWha.gif?t=1249882370

I was going to say that the only team in the NBA I would accept a trade from is the Thunder for Westbrook, Durant, Green and multiple draft picks.

CzBoobie
02-19-2010, 04:46 PM
The Cavaliers would never EVER trade LeBron.

You can't put an equal enough trade for him, unless it's Kobe.

Kobe is done, if there is a player I would trade LeBron for if I really had to, it's only Durant.

dreamingof1964
02-19-2010, 04:48 PM
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I was going to say that the only team in the NBA I would accept a trade from is the Thunder for Westbrook, Durant, Green and multiple draft picks.

OK Amherst I give; on 1 condition:
We get this guy back in the deal
http://www.cavshistory.com/images/players/Kevin_Ollie.jpg

UDcleveland
02-19-2010, 04:51 PM
I'll trade you LeBron if you spare us and never write out such a long/retarded post again... deal?

NorthCoastBias
02-19-2010, 04:51 PM
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Nicky_Sats
02-19-2010, 04:53 PM
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Mdog1
02-19-2010, 04:57 PM
You are all being very immature. I remain that if trading LeBron gets this team closer to a championship than I would do it.

Backstage
02-19-2010, 04:58 PM
What.

WHAT.

2 For The Brew
02-19-2010, 04:59 PM
"I am going to start this Tread off ..."

Don't TREAD on us!

Spectre
02-19-2010, 04:59 PM
Mr. Dortch, what you've just posted... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no rep, and may God have mercy on your soul.

layneroxxx
02-19-2010, 05:00 PM
I destroyed my computer over this! Thanks....

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Amherstcavsfan
02-19-2010, 05:02 PM
You are all being very immature. I remain that if trading LeBron gets this team closer to a championship than I would do it.

And like I said, there is only one deal in the NBA I would do it for.

bucksprime99
02-19-2010, 05:03 PM
Thunder

NO TRADE... not because of Cavs though... the Thunder are proving to be the best ran team in the business and while the tallent level is equal between LBJ and Durrant...


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Swat8mk
02-19-2010, 05:04 PM
Good for him giving his views im not going to bash it ..................but this has to be the funniest thread on here . These GIFs are going to give me probs no lie Dreamingof64 when i saw that you made me laugh and i had Pepsi coming out of my nose......EPIC

Nicky_Sats
02-19-2010, 05:05 PM
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Ohdang
02-19-2010, 05:08 PM
Oh, dang

NorthCoastBias
02-19-2010, 05:09 PM
Oh, dang

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aaronbev79
02-19-2010, 05:11 PM
Things I'd rather do than read the OP:

- Punch myself in the nuts
- Drink Draino
- Hug a cactus
- Be curb stomped by a really fat guy

MalTalm
02-19-2010, 05:11 PM
LBJ would be traded only in a sign-and-trade, if he demanded it. What you aren't considering is marketing and a player's value on market share.

Even if Durant was as good as LeBron, only dedicated fans of the sport know much about him outside of OKC. LeBron in OKC would still be the most powerful sports figure in the world.

I like Mdog's plan of trading anyone to build towards a championship, but San Antonio was near dynasty level this decade, yet they never generated the revenue LeBron does here in Cleveland. For Dan Gilbert, there isn't a package in the NBA which could come close to returning on his LeBron investment.

And the Thunder would likely trade away every young player they've got for LeBron, because even if it made them a worse team, they'd sell out their games and double their revenue over night.

So, no... Not everyone has a price, unless Mark Cuban could find someway to buy LeBron from Gilbert for around 1 bil.

Nicky_Sats
02-19-2010, 05:12 PM
Things I'd rather do than read the OP:

- Punch myself in the nuts
- Drink Draino
- Hug a cactus
- Be curb stomped by a really fat guy

You forgot watching a live abortion

aaronbev79
02-19-2010, 05:12 PM
Good for him giving his views im not going to bash it ..................

Of course you're not...you have a total of 54 posts...

You should just sit back a read for a while before you attempt something like this moron just wrote...

The Memo Man
02-19-2010, 05:12 PM
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DeeThree
02-19-2010, 05:15 PM
A for effort man, I was there once too... here's a Thanks for the couple hours you spent making that up.


:thumbup:

Typhoon
02-19-2010, 05:16 PM
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SuperSurge
02-19-2010, 05:17 PM
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kevinoc0
02-19-2010, 05:20 PM
For lack of time and pure laziness when it comes to photoshop...

Dude just got

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CARL WINSLOWNED

En_Fhan
02-19-2010, 05:21 PM
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JackMoore
02-19-2010, 05:21 PM
I agree this thread is the epitome of GTFO but........

If we absolutely had to trade him, you go down to OKC and raid the best pantry the league has to offer. It's the only move that even comes close to beginning to make sense... and it doesn't even come that close...

Mazer Rackham
02-19-2010, 05:24 PM
This is a fucking epic thread! I'm in tears. Thanks for starting off my weekend right RCF!

:yay:

bombin33
02-19-2010, 05:29 PM
No

DougHeil
02-19-2010, 05:30 PM
I have no idea what to say about this. I hope you are very hidden from ALL members in here.

I actually believe you are a plant from the Knicks..... no really.

I just read some of the teams:


Lakers

Kobe and Gasol for Shaq and LBJ

this is the one that I think both teams would actually consider. IF the Cavs are losing LBJ then they have to have a player who can make the world forget about it.... I.E KOBE. Other reasons this interests me.

You just cannot be serious? Oh my. Aside from the very fact LeBron is 25 years frikken old and not even close to his frikken prime or potential as of yet, and aside from the fact LeBron is MUCH better than Kobe and Gasol put together......


please send the info on those drugs you are on.

Northstar
02-19-2010, 06:40 PM
There are not two players in the league that play on the same team that I would trade LBJ for right now. If I could pick any two players in the league, then yes, you can come up with two.

The best trade would probably be LeBron for all of OKC's young players (Durant, Green, Westbrook, Harden).

Chris
02-19-2010, 06:44 PM
Roy and Aldridge is the closest you can come, Northstar, I think. I'd almost consider that...but still, nope, wouldn't do it.

The Special One
02-19-2010, 06:44 PM
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440
02-19-2010, 06:46 PM
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Gimme Some Mo
02-19-2010, 06:46 PM
What a waste of time that was. I wouldn't even think about thinking about making any of those trades.

Only way I trade LeBron is if it is somehow bringing in Dwight Howard and CP3.



There are not two players in the league that play on the same team that I would trade LBJ for right now. If I could pick any two players in the league, then yes, you can come up with two.

The best trade would probably be LeBron for all of OKC's young players (Durant, Green, Westbrook, Harden).

I agree that this would be the best deal if it could only be a 2 team trade.

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Jamison
Shaq

Mo
West
Jeff Green
Varejao
Hickson

That would be pretty amazing. You could probably even trade Mo & JJ and get a VERY good player.

Let me see one more year of these players from OKC, and I think I would actually do this one.

I know, shoot me, but if these 4 players keep developing at the rate they are, then those 4 OKC players > LeBron.

Actually, I don't think OKC would make that trade.

MYoung23
02-19-2010, 06:48 PM
Cure for this thread.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/352616700_b42dc9ee1e.jpg

TAS
02-19-2010, 06:51 PM
How is this thread still open?

SuperSurge
02-19-2010, 06:51 PM
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Matt S
02-19-2010, 11:43 PM
I would consider an offer of LeBron and Mike Brown for DWade, Pat Riley, the entire Miami Heat dance team, and 10 years worth of unprotected draft picks (first and second round).

The Voice
02-20-2010, 12:16 AM
Please recognize, I'm trying to participate in this thread and not just rip on this dude for making it. With that being said:


A couple of things to consider, when I am writing this:

1) If I can make it work in a trade machine I will if not ohh well (and I will state as such).
2) I am making basic assumption that players are on the same team that they currently are on.
3) I am making the basic assumption that players will continue to make the same ammount of $ they are currently making.
4) I am not getting into complicated 3 and 4 team trades... it is a basic swap of talent/salary for Lebron.
5) I AM ASSUMING LEBRON HAS TO BE TRADED!!!

Lakers

Kobe and Gasol for Shaq and LBJ

this is the one that I think both teams would actually consider. IF the Cavs are losing LBJ then they have to have a player who can make the world forget about it.... I.E KOBE. Other reasons this interests me.

1) Kobe's deepest team ever
2) LBJ gets his big market and becomes the next Laker great
3) the most valuable puppets commercial after the trade
4) Shaq's second version of Kobe how's my a$$ taste
5) if LBJ can't be our hero, it would be best to make him the ultimate villian

I'm not sure if you even watched the Lakers back when they threepeated. Shaq in his prime with Kobe was amazing. Not to mention all the role players they had on that team. You clearly don't know what you're even talking about. Kobe's deepest team ever? Who the hell would even play center? :chuckles:


Memphis

NO TRADE... sorry any time you are trying to convince yourself that Z-Bo is a franchise player... SHOOT YOURSELF!

You talk about young talent in a lot of these and can't think of a good trade with Memphis who is infused with it?

PS: For all the teams you couldn't figure out who you'd want besides one player (Sac, Wash, ect) think of three ways. Ferry loves those.

col63onel
02-20-2010, 12:29 AM
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Heej
02-20-2010, 01:42 AM
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dcm226
02-20-2010, 02:39 AM
I like the way Dortch is thinking....he's a realist and has balls. Unlike that pussy GM of ours that sleeps under his desk on his hands all day and doesn't do shit! Seriously...WHAT HAS FERRY DONE LATELY???? Sure he made the Jamison trade, but that was like 48 hours ago AND HE GAVE UP THE 32ND PICK IN THIS YEAR'S DRAFT.:mad:

It is a given we're going to lose Lebron to New York or China....Fairy needs to sack up and trade Lebron's ass for something...anything!!!

DO IT FERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!


LMFAO!!!!!!!

dcm226
02-20-2010, 02:48 AM
The Cavaliers would never EVER trade LeBron.

You can't put an equal enough trade for him, unless it's Kobe.


FOD :thumbdown

LeBaron James
02-20-2010, 03:03 AM
As plain and simple as I can say it...



...You're dumb.




EDIT: You're still dumb.

hoops23
02-20-2010, 03:27 AM
Anybody who thanked the OP should be banned, imho :)

Lord Mar
02-20-2010, 03:56 AM
I have an awesome gif for this thread....and when I can find a way to get it hosted (it's 9.15mb) I'll show it.

Z3PO
02-20-2010, 04:11 AM
F'ing Hilarious. I havent laughed so hard at replies in a long time. I wish I could thank everyone except the OP.

Lord Mar
02-20-2010, 04:19 AM
F'ing Hilarious. I havent laughed so hard at replies in a long time. I wish I could thank everyone except the OP.

You could, and you can start with me....both of my posts.

Photon
02-20-2010, 05:57 AM
Imagine Ferry dealing LBJ... Durant+DH12+Westbrook... Crime of the century....

Spencer Hawes
02-20-2010, 09:24 AM
http://joanharvest.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/who-wants-to-be-a-dumbass.jpg

DawgOnKing
02-20-2010, 09:30 AM
My IQ has dropped considerably by simply reading to the word "Atlanta" in the OP. Please escort the gentlemen to the nearest exit.

I'm not kiddin, I think he should leave.

Now.

ACDC_Rocks024
02-20-2010, 10:43 AM
http://joanharvest.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/who-wants-to-be-a-dumbass.jpg

lol is that real?

caf
02-20-2010, 10:45 AM
Oh come on guys. We should take a note out of PHX book. GET BEASLEY WHILE YOU CAN!

NorthCoastBias
02-20-2010, 10:49 AM
http://img.moronail.net/img/3/7/1037.jpg

*THE ORIGINAL*
02-20-2010, 10:53 AM
lol is that real?

http://joanharvest.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/who-wants-to-be-a-dumbass.jpg

I think the bigger question is: Are those sideburns real?

ACDC_Rocks024
02-20-2010, 10:55 AM
http://joanharvest.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/who-wants-to-be-a-dumbass.jpg

I think the bigger question is: Are those sideburns real?

Touche, my friend :chuckles:

Damage
02-20-2010, 11:28 AM
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Maximus
02-20-2010, 11:56 AM
http://joanharvest.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/who-wants-to-be-a-dumbass.jpg


Serious question, what the hell is that? Man....woman....or one of them transtesticles? :dunno:

ACDC_Rocks024
02-20-2010, 11:59 AM
Serious question, what the hell is that? Man....woman....or one of them transtesticles? :dunno:

Yeah good point. Kind of looks like a Brian...

-KingofKings23-
02-20-2010, 12:08 PM
To put it short and sweet...

What the fuck were you thinking!?!? This thread is fucked and might be the worst thread ever made!!

southbeach
02-20-2010, 12:19 PM
I have to give you credit for one thing, you've got balls making this post. No brains but balls.

Dortch316
02-20-2010, 01:57 PM
Sorry for not responding to all the negative posts but I had to work, go to law school, and enjoy my fiancée’s birthday.

For those of you who slammed the post cause "no way you ever trade LeBron"... you missed the whole point of the question.... IF YOU HAD TO TRADE LEBRON...

I asked the idea based off of the Trade Value Chart of Bill Simmons.

Thank you all for proving my point that most of you wouldn't know an intellectual exercise if it bit you in the ass.

I don't mind being slammed for the disagreements what I though of as a trade, but to be so idiotic to think that LBJ might not ever be traded am silly..... (1) He might demand it... as I suggested in a few of my team statements (2) he might sign with another team and we might try to force a sign and trade so he can get his max deal

The whole point was to put your and my love for LBJ's game aside and figure out what was a fair market value for him.

As for those who actually responded to the exercise...

I agree as a Cavs fan that the Thunder are the most "interesting" as a Cavs fan... That's why I said no trade... everyone that said the Thunder made a trade that was grossly unfair to the Thunder and they would not entertain the thought.... a whole team isn't worth 1 player no matter how great that player is (and for the record I feel that LBJ has a serious chance to pass MJ as the greatest of all time)

Same thing with Portland and Lakers...

Who would play 5 for the Cavs with the Laker's trade ... Gasol, Andy, and Z (I like most people think Z resigns w/ Cavs if he takes a buyout)... that's a pretty good 5 rotation.

Again it was meant to be a mental exercise ... I am sorry some of you didn't get that, but I pretty much warned you in the opening paragraph that if you weren't interested in the intellectual debate that maybe you shouldn't be reading it

ChicagoCavFan
02-20-2010, 02:13 PM
Yeah good point. Kind of looks like a Brian...

As a Brian myself, I might be offended by that. However, after the joy of this thread, I'm really not....

bucksprime99
02-20-2010, 02:13 PM
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/38/This_thread_is_bad_and_you_should_feel_bad.jpg

afireinside7710
02-20-2010, 02:16 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/qx436v.gif

i died, thank you :D

I.K.W.T
02-20-2010, 02:20 PM
Sorry for not responding to all the negative posts but I had to work, go to law school, and enjoy my fiancée’s birthday.

For those of you who slammed the post cause "no way you ever trade LeBron"... you missed the whole point of the question.... IF YOU HAD TO TRADE LEBRON...

I asked the idea based off of the Trade Value Chart of Bill Simmons.

Thank you all for proving my point that most of you wouldn't know an intellectual exercise if it bit you in the ass.

I don't mind being slammed for the disagreements what I though of as a trade, but to be so idiotic to think that LBJ might not ever be traded am silly..... (1) He might demand it... as I suggested in a few of my team statements (2) he might sign with another team and we might try to force a sign and trade so he can get his max deal

The whole point was to put your and my love for LBJ's game aside and figure out what was a fair market value for him.

As for those who actually responded to the exercise...

I agree as a Cavs fan that the Thunder are the most "interesting" as a Cavs fan... That's why I said no trade... everyone that said the Thunder made a trade that was grossly unfair to the Thunder and they would not entertain the thought.... a whole team isn't worth 1 player no matter how great that player is (and for the record I feel that LBJ has a serious chance to pass MJ as the greatest of all time)

Same thing with Portland and Lakers...

Who would play 5 for the Cavs with the Laker's trade ... Gasol, Andy, and Z (I like most people think Z resigns w/ Cavs if he takes a buyout)... that's a pretty good 5 rotation.

Again it was meant to be a mental exercise ... I am sorry some of you didn't get that, but I pretty much warned you in the opening paragraph that if you weren't interested in the intellectual debate that maybe you shouldn't be reading it

I just have a great idea for you, take this over to that "other" site where i'm sure this type of thread is commonplace.

Heej
02-20-2010, 02:27 PM
Sorry for not responding to all the negative posts but I had to work, go to law school, and enjoy my fiancée’s birthday.

For those of you who slammed the post cause "no way you ever trade LeBron"... you missed the whole point of the question.... IF YOU HAD TO TRADE LEBRON...

I asked the idea based off of the Trade Value Chart of Bill Simmons.

Thank you all for proving my point that most of you wouldn't know an intellectual exercise if it bit you in the ass.

I don't mind being slammed for the disagreements what I though of as a trade, but to be so idiotic to think that LBJ might not ever be traded am silly..... (1) He might demand it... as I suggested in a few of my team statements (2) he might sign with another team and we might try to force a sign and trade so he can get his max deal

The whole point was to put your and my love for LBJ's game aside and figure out what was a fair market value for him.

As for those who actually responded to the exercise...

I agree as a Cavs fan that the Thunder are the most "interesting" as a Cavs fan... That's why I said no trade... everyone that said the Thunder made a trade that was grossly unfair to the Thunder and they would not entertain the thought.... a whole team isn't worth 1 player no matter how great that player is (and for the record I feel that LBJ has a serious chance to pass MJ as the greatest of all time)

Same thing with Portland and Lakers...

Who would play 5 for the Cavs with the Laker's trade ... Gasol, Andy, and Z (I like most people think Z resigns w/ Cavs if he takes a buyout)... that's a pretty good 5 rotation.

Again it was meant to be a mental exercise ... I am sorry some of you didn't get that, but I pretty much warned you in the opening paragraph that if you weren't interested in the intellectual debate that maybe you shouldn't be reading it

How does the stupidest post I've ever seen made on RCF somehow qualify as an intellectual debate?

InBoobieWeTrust
02-20-2010, 03:47 PM
You never "have to trade LeBron"

If he's gonna walk, he's gonna walk. That's the way it'll be. He'll then be hated in his home state for the rest of his life. He'll have to deal with it and the Front Office will not be bailing him out of taking that type of responsibility by trading him.

That should start and end your "intellectual debate". I always love when people make stupid posts and claim that we are all below their intellectual level when we go Jeff Ross-mode and roast the shit out of them.

theSwayze
02-20-2010, 04:12 PM
Mr. Dortch, what you've just posted... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no rep, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Isn't this coopted from Happy Gilmore? You own Adam Sandler dollar... that or you have to sit through that terrible movie where he is the son of the devil or whatever.

Oreos
02-20-2010, 04:14 PM
How has this thread lasted this long with this many posts?

metr0man
02-20-2010, 04:24 PM
It's kind of unsettling that people incapable of wrapping their brains around a hypothetical. It displays a lack of critical thinking skills.

I'm going with the assumption that Lebron makes a behind-closed-doors trade demand. If that were to happen, and you'd refuse to trade him...

The closest to "fair trade" values I can think of would be something like:


Dwayne Wade + two 1st round picks, one of them unprotected (preferably one of them being aquired from a worse team than the Heat)

Dwight Howard + a good young prospect + an unprotected 1st round pick (not Orlando's since it will be a late pick, but maybe another team's that they acquired).

Kevin Durant + another one of OKC's young players + unprotected 1st pick

You might be able to put something together involving Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony also, maybe.

The list of young elite level franchise talents that you can build an entire team around is remarkably small.

440
02-20-2010, 04:27 PM
I would trade Lebron for a version of Lebron that took the Josh Smith route and just stopped fucking shooting 3s.

InBoobieWeTrust
02-20-2010, 04:28 PM
It's kind of unsettling that people incapable of wrapping their brains around a hypothetical. It displays a lack of critical thinking skills.

I'm going with the assumption that Lebron makes a behind-closed-doors trade demand. I don't feel like inventing a 'realistic' reason.

The closest "fair trade" values I can think of would be something like:

Dwayne Wade + two 1st round picks, one of them unprotected (preferably one of them being aquired from a worse team than the Heat)

Dwight Howard + a good young prospect + an unprotected 1st round pick (not Orlando's since it will be a late pick, but maybe another team's that they acquired).

Kevin Durant + another one of OKC's young players + unprotected 1st pick

You might be able to put something together involving Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony also, maybe.

The list of young elite level franchise talents that you can build an entire team around is remarkably small.

Even if LeBron makes a trade demand, those packages would never happen. Why would LeBron agree to be traded to a team void of talent? Remember when Kobe blocked the Chicago trade because they were giving away LUOL DENG and would have thus been void of talent?

You said you wanted to do a critical thinking exercise, so do some critical thinking.

metr0man
02-20-2010, 04:32 PM
Even if LeBron makes a trade demand, those packages would never happen. Why would LeBron agree to be traded to a team void of talent? Remember when Kobe blocked the Chicago trade because they were giving away LUOL DENG and would have thus been void of talent?

You said you wanted to do a critical thinking exercise, so do some critical thinking.


Ok. Again. I said "closest to trade value". The OP mentions Bill Simmons' trade value column.

What's a realistic is irrelevant, hell the whole concept of Lebron being traded is unrealistic. I'm talking about what hypothetical deals would be closest to trade value if you, for some unfathomable reason, HAD to trade Lebron.

Try it. It won't hurt you. Really. Lebron won't read this and get offended and want out over the summer. It's not like losing an argument to a Kobe-lover about who is better. Nothing will happen if you consider it.

Which fantasy deal out there,would make you feel the "least horrible" if you were forced to trade Lebron.

InBoobieWeTrust
02-20-2010, 04:37 PM
Ok. Again. I said "closest to trade value". The OP mentions Bill Simmons' trade value column.

What's a realistic is irrelevant. I'm talking about what hypothetical deals would be closest to trade value if you, for some unfathomable reason, had to trade Lebron.

Try it. It won't hurt you. Really. Lebron won't read this and get offended and want out over the summer.

Which deal out there, realistic or no, would make you feel the "least horrible" if you were forced to trade Lebron.

There is no deal that I would trade LeBron James for, I already answered that. Again, critical thinking should involve you reading what I say when I post.

If he wants out, he can ditch us and become one of the most hated people in Ohio, his home state. If he can live with himself after that, more power to him. The organization should NOT give him an "out" of that scenario by trading him.

Trade value ALSO(I'm thinking critically) has to be what other teams would send. Name me a S&T for a superstar that got even CLOSE to fair value. I challenge you to do that. So, LeBron's trade value is at a point where it's not worth it to trade him because any package that exists is worthless, and even if we got a good package, I'd still let his ass walk.

theSwayze
02-20-2010, 04:37 PM
I'm trying to approach this seriously and the only NBA deal I can consider involves time travel. I would however trade Lebron for Jesus, a ninja and the guy in the Watchmen with the blue dong.

metr0man
02-20-2010, 04:40 PM
There is no deal that I would trade LeBron James for, I already answered that. Again, critical thinking should involve you reading what I say when I post.

If he wants out, he can ditch us and become one of the most hated people in Ohio, his home state. If he can live with himself after that, more power to him. The organization should NOT give him an "out" of that scenario by trading him.

Trade value ALSO(I'm thinking critically) has to be what other teams would send. Name me a S&T for a superstar that got even CLOSE to fair value. I challenge you to do that. So, LeBron's trade value is at a point where it's not worth it to trade him because any package that exists is worthless, and even if we got a good package, I'd still let his ass walk.

I forgot to mention the scenario has someone holding your loved ones hostage with gunpoint and forces you to trade Lebron. You still wouldn't do it? Sucks for your loved ones that you love a basketball player more than them.

InBoobieWeTrust
02-20-2010, 04:45 PM
I forgot to mention the scenario has someone holding your loved ones hostage with gunpoint and forces you to trade Lebron. You still wouldn't do it? Sucks for your loved ones that you love a basketball player more than them.

If that were the case, I'd trade LeBron for Larry Hughes and cash considerations.

The problem is, now you yourself have crossed over from critical thinking to dumb hypothetical scenarios that should be saved for people who spend too much time with their bongs.

ajz20
02-20-2010, 04:54 PM
I forgot to mention the scenario has someone holding your loved ones hostage with gunpoint and forces you to trade Lebron. You still wouldn't do it? Sucks for your loved ones that you love a basketball player more than them.

Wow, thanks for the laugh! Are a gold member at Cavsfanatic?:rofl::rofl: You actually said something that was dumber than the OP. That is an accomplishment, I guess.

Lord Mar
02-20-2010, 05:12 PM
The question is valid (hypothetically).

It's some of your answers that are invalid.

Loves2Spooge
02-20-2010, 05:43 PM
Wow. How much time did you spend coming up with this insanity. LBJ, and really the cavs organization, no longer want you as a fan.

AC would tell you to "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

For a long time reader of this site, this is without a doubt the worst idea anyone has ever had on here. You're one of those morons that already has your LBJ Knicks jersey aren't you?

Dortch316
02-20-2010, 05:49 PM
You never "have to trade LeBron"

If he's gonna walk, he's gonna walk. That's the way it'll be. He'll then be hated in his home state for the rest of his life. He'll have to deal with it and the Front Office will not be bailing him out of taking that type of responsibility by trading him.

That should start and end your "intellectual debate". I always love when people make stupid posts and claim that we are all below their intellectual level when we go Jeff Ross-mode and roast the shit out of them.


See this is at least a valid opinion. I disagree with you that a Sign and Trade or other trade isn't possible (or unfortunately might be a true fact of Cavs future), but you are correct... saying it is an intellectual discussion doesn't make it one....

Discussing something (like breaking things down the way I did makes it and intelectual discussion)... what is un-intellegent is repeatedly posting photos instead of discussing the debate. Honestly if you don't want to say something don't say it and move on.

I think it is is interesting that you would rather the Cavs make LBJ a scapegoat than try to do whats best for the team if he wanted out. In the end, Cleveland (and the state of Ohio) will get behind a winner so as long as the Cavs win the Q will sell out...

Your idea suggests its better to let the team get nothing in return, become a bad program, and return to the Cavs of the late 90's ... all so Cleveland can hate LBJ even more if he asked to leave... He would be public enemy #1 anyways in a sign and trade

Dortch316
02-20-2010, 05:53 PM
It's kind of unsettling that people incapable of wrapping their brains around a hypothetical. It displays a lack of critical thinking skills.

I'm going with the assumption that Lebron makes a behind-closed-doors trade demand. If that were to happen, and you'd refuse to trade him...

The closest to "fair trade" values I can think of would be something like:


Dwayne Wade + two 1st round picks, one of them unprotected (preferably one of them being aquired from a worse team than the Heat)

Dwight Howard + a good young prospect + an unprotected 1st round pick (not Orlando's since it will be a late pick, but maybe another team's that they acquired).

Kevin Durant + another one of OKC's young players + unprotected 1st pick

You might be able to put something together involving Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony also, maybe.

The list of young elite level franchise talents that you can build an entire team around is remarkably small.

I agree with most of this... like I said earlier. I am not a Knicks fan or any other fan other than a Cavs fan... I just thought it was an interesting hypothetical. Thanks for trying to think through it... much more productive and thought provoking than searching the internet for hours looking for a photo to post.

The Oi
02-20-2010, 07:20 PM
much more productive and thought provoking than searching the internet for hours looking for a photo to post.

It only took me about 8 seconds to find this picture.

http://api.ning.com/files/IWuqfdgaQwX2aPsGLtNekrAIb7j1AxEsTDJONBiY1D-9qilMBdYmCbQT0chEQgX5msEvj7Pte-vwlRMj-niLfid98V3Qm3qH/elephant_poop.jpg

IGNYTE
02-20-2010, 07:34 PM
The only reason I would lebron if the other team agrees to buy him out and return to us in 30 days, other then that no GM in the world would ever even consider trading the Best player in this generation

Lord Mar
02-20-2010, 07:35 PM
The only reason I would lebron if the other team agrees to buy him out and return to us in 30 days, other then that no GM in the world would ever even consider trading the Best player in this generation

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

cmon he's asking if you HAD to trade him (i.e. LeBron tells Ferry "I'm out this bitch no matter what").

ACDC_Rocks024
02-20-2010, 07:42 PM
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

cmon he's asking if you HAD to trade him (i.e. LeBron tells Ferry "I'm out this bitch no matter what").

You mean like Kobe?

Lord Mar
02-20-2010, 07:43 PM
You mean like Kobe?

I don't mean anything.

biznatch :)

TJ Detweiler
02-20-2010, 07:46 PM
I am going to start this Tread off by guessing that there are those who believe that LeBron should never be traded and that this Thread should be locked up.... well let me say that those people are either blind fans or just stupid.... ANYONE and EVERYONE has a price.

I agree that is next to impossible that the Cavs would ever consider trading LeBron, but that isn't the question... what each team be able to offer that would at least have Ferry not hanging up the phone immediately.

I thought of this idea after reading Bill Simmons's colum on trade value and it got me thinking about what deal would the Cavs consider for Lebron.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100208/one

A couple of things to consider, when I am writing this:

1) If I can make it work in a trade machine I will if not ohh well (and I will state as such).
2) I am making basic assumption that players are on the same team that they currently are on.
3) I am making the basic assumption that players will continue to make the same ammount of $ they are currently making.
4) I am not getting into complicated 3 and 4 team trades... it is a basic swap of talent/salary for Lebron.
5) I AM ASSUMING LEBRON HAS TO BE TRADED!!!

Atlanta

Al Horford, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith for A. Jamison and LeBron

why the FUCK would be do this?.

Boston
Ray Allen, K. Garnett, P. Pierce, Big Baby for Shaq, Lebron, Andy, and A. Jamison

Uhhh, 3 aging guys and a bench player for 2 stars, 1 aging superstar, and 1 superstar?

Bobcats

Chucker.. Chucker :)

Bulls

I actually like Rose but no way we would do this trade.

Detroit


Well we are into a new decade now, so yeah I don't think he would be the Exec of the Decade.. If you were talking about last decade the Pistons won the '04 Finals dumbass. Dumars is a solid GM.. His Darko pick was a smart pick that never panned out.

Pacers

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/EbenSig/granger-teeth-2.jpg

Heat

No shit the Heat would listen, every team would... While West is having off the court issues he's still a great force in the locker room, while Beasley is another story..

Bucks

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/EbenSig/captobvious-738633.jpg

Nets

Here is a killer folks... this might actually happen.

Get your head out of your ass..



Knicks

Same as Nets... shoot me!

Uh why would they trade LeBron for all those players with shit contracts and chemistry issues..
Lee is the only guy I like in this deal.

Magic

Howard is inconsistent. no.

76er's

2 shit contracts and a Pippen, the only problem is we would trade away our Jordan.

Raptors

Eh I guess this one is alright.

Wizards

Yeah and then we would be WAY under the cap and be able to sign LB in the offseason.

Mavs

Why the FUCK would we trade Mo for Kidd. Kidd is going to retire soon.

Nuggets

Best player in league for 10th.. no thanks.

Golden State

Steph Curry shows promise but he's a ballhog.

Rockets

Why would we trade LB for Yao, who isn't even the best center?

Clippers

You're right Kaman is braindead. ESPN made up LBJ going to the Clippers because they are finally realizing he won't go to NY this is their other option.

Lakers

Kobe is declining.

Memphis

.. O.J. Mayo is more of a franchise player.

T'Wolves

2 big men while we have a deep big man roster? Rubio isn't even in the NBA we would have to wait until like 2011 to get him, who knows how he will pan out.

Hornets

How about Paul for Mo :D jk.

Thunder

OKC is #5 seed Cavs are #1 Gilbert is the best owner in the business. dumbass.

Suns

Although I want to get rid of Parker, an aging star, and an injury prone superstar? No thanks.

Portland

I like this trade but we are too deep.

Kings

No Trade... Come on who do they have... if you had to... expiring deals

Tyreke Evans who will be a star someday. That's who they have.

Spurs

Eh Parker is solid.

JAZZ

We trade our top three players in that deal? Nah.


Edited :D

Read his post then read my response.

ACDC_Rocks024
02-20-2010, 07:46 PM
I don't mean anything.

biznatch :)

Woah. I'm offended and intimidated! :eek:

G21
02-21-2010, 08:00 AM
Lebron cannot be traded. The Cavs are a terrible franchise and would never come back from this.

The Oi
02-21-2010, 08:33 AM
See you later guys! I suck.

:thumbup:

Dortch316
06-16-2010, 04:33 PM
I just wanted to see this @ the top of the board again.... because I remember being railed for even suggesting a LeBron trade, and now it seems like every topic concerning him has someone talking about trading him.

I still maintain it was a mental excercise but wow what a difference 4 months makes.

InBoobieWeTrust
06-16-2010, 04:35 PM
I just wanted to see this @ the top of the board again.... because I remember being railed for even suggesting a LeBron trade, and now it seems like every topic concerning him has someone talking about trading him.

I still maintain it was a mental excercise but wow what a difference 4 months makes.

It's still just as bad and unrealistic of an idea as it was before.

udilicious42584
06-16-2010, 05:36 PM
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Brandname
06-16-2010, 05:43 PM
I just wanted to see this @ the top of the board again.... because I remember being railed for even suggesting a LeBron trade, and now it seems like every topic concerning him has someone talking about trading him.

I still maintain it was a mental excercise but wow what a difference 4 months makes.

That makes one of us.

Urban
06-16-2010, 05:50 PM
I just wanted to see this @ the top of the board again.... because I remember being railed for even suggesting a LeBron trade, and now it seems like every topic concerning him has someone talking about trading him.

I still maintain it was a mental excercise but wow what a difference 4 months makes.

You could have at least included some trades that would work in real life and not just NBA 2K10.

RonG
06-16-2010, 05:51 PM
and bring on the " you still fail" gif's and pics

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/5/128729849014699826.jpg

Backstage
06-16-2010, 05:51 PM
I just wanted to see this @ the top of the board again....

And I just wanted to bang Liv Tyler because she seems like a classy lady. But that's about as likely as this trade proposal.

Quavvy
06-16-2010, 06:19 PM
You just cost me 5 minutes of my life for this?

I applaud your ability to research. Your logic, on the other hand, is totally non-existant.

Just because you can plug numbers into an NBA trade machine, doesn't mean that ANY (ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, EPIS, WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING AT THAT CURRENT TIME HELL NO) of those scenarios are even close to plausible. This isn't 4th grade math class. This is long term and short term NBA salary capology.

Teams build young cores to entice Lebron James, or players similiar to Lebron James as a free agent. They do not spend years meticulously drafting young talent to shop it all away and make their entire team "Lebron James + A Bunch of Nobodies" (For further reference, you may Google "2007 Cleveland Cavaliers".).

Furthermore, if the Cavs traded Lebron, which they certainly could, it'd have to be a sign and trade scenario. In which case, and maaaaaaaaaybe I've said this a few times already....THE PLAYER CONTROLS THE DESTINATION. NOT THE TEAM.

This thread should've been locked the first time.

I-77 NORTH
06-16-2010, 06:23 PM
Yawwwwwwwn.

clebron
06-16-2010, 06:55 PM
this thread is terrible, it doesn't matter what we would get if lebron left

Lebron leaving = cavaliers mediocrity for decades

for the record, I was a fan when they were mediocre and still will be, but to actively discuss a no win situation (lebron leaving) is defeatist and abit obtuse

Silky Smooth
06-16-2010, 08:16 PM
I am going to start this Tread off by guessing that there are those who believe that LeBron should never be traded and that this Thread should be locked up.... well let me say that those people are either blind fans or just stupid.... ANYONE and EVERYONE has a price.

I agree that is next to impossible that the Cavs would ever consider trading LeBron, but that isn't the question... what each team be able to offer that would at least have Ferry not hanging up the phone immediately.

I thought of this idea after reading Bill Simmons's colum on trade value and it got me thinking about what deal would the Cavs consider for Lebron.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100208/one

A couple of things to consider, when I am writing this:

1) If I can make it work in a trade machine I will if not ohh well (and I will state as such).
2) I am making basic assumption that players are on the same team that they currently are on.
3) I am making the basic assumption that players will continue to make the same ammount of $ they are currently making.
4) I am not getting into complicated 3 and 4 team trades... it is a basic swap of talent/salary for Lebron.
5) I AM ASSUMING LEBRON HAS TO BE TRADED!!!

Atlanta

Al Horford, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith for A. Jamison and LeBron

This trade works $ wise and it seems like one of the better deals that would arise for the Cavs. They would get huge upgrades at SG and PF and get a young 5 in return.

I think this is a fair enough trade that both teams would @ least not hang up on one another.

Boston
Ray Allen, K. Garnett, P. Pierce, Big Baby for Shaq, Lebron, Andy, and A. Jamison

Let me say that I think the Celtics make this trade in a heart beat. The big 3 I feel have won the 1 title they will win and if the Celtics have to start over might as well do it with the best player in the leauge.

No way the Cavs would listen though. Biggest Reason, does anyone else feel that KG is a shadow of his former self and he will never regain those days again.... I do and I wouldn't make this trade even if I was promised a title in Cleveland.

Bobcats

Yeah I know... NO WAY but I said I would go through every team.

This trade works but no way Ferry even picks up the phone for this one.

S. Jax and G. Wallace for Lebron and D. Jackson

Bulls

I could do this trade 2 ways but decided that the only way that I think the Cavs would listen is if it went as follows.

Rose, Deng, and Noah for Lebron (note trade works with and without Noah)

The reason I think the Cavs MIGHT listen to this trade is Rose is a franshice PG (they could trade Mo who isn't), Noah has proven to be a great young 5 (and they could drop Shaq's monster deal... also imagine the all hustle lineup of Noah and Andy), and Deng is very serviceable at the 3 spot to replace LBJ.

Still not happening but it is interesting.

Detroit

I tried but that Team is terrible. Honestly anyone who thinks that Dumars should ever be Exec of the Decade should be shot....

No Trade.

Pacers

This trade is only a thought if LeBron torched half of Cleveland on purpose and announced that if he wasn't traded he would burn the other half. Ok seriously, this would only happen if the Cavs were starting from scratch and wanted to stick it to LBJ for some reason.

Granger, Hibbert, Hansbourgh, Rush and Watson for LBJ

And then watch the Cavs drop every other big contract they have, it would be the how young can we go team....

Heat

LBJ and West for Wade and Beasley

Why Cavs listen... Superstar for Superstar and Beasley moves into the 3 (with Jamison) to but the best support cast around Wade (a guy who already has a ring)

Why Heat Listen... its LBJ

Why Cavs say no... Wade's career is going to be so much shorter due to injury... I feel like that is the NBAs little secret in Miami

Bucks

Nope... couldn't do it... tried to make it work with Bogut and Jennings and just laughed @ myself...

NO Trade.

Nets

Here is a killer folks... this might actually happen. It would be better to lose him in a sign and trade than him just leaving us. (For the record I don't think he leaves and even if he does there is no way he would ok the stripping of his new team in a Sign and Trade... he would be going there to win)

Yi, CDR, Harris, and Lopez for LBJ

And let the fire sale begin... I mean honestly what tallent would we keep. Bye Shaq, please someone take Jamison's huge deal, Mo needs to go thanks to Harris...

Unfortunately this is a possibility and I mean it just sounds like something that happens in Cleveland.

Knicks

Same as Nets... shoot me!

Only difference... I would demand that the Knicks take on even more salary and try to do what the Knicks did immediately... get expiring deals..

Mo, LBJ, A. Jamison for Gallinari, E. Curry's terrible contract, S. Rodriguez, Chandler, Mobley's Cripple Contract, David Lee, and E. House

Plus Drop Shaq and then offer to shoot anyone and everyone in 11 for Durant and/or Melo.

Magic

Howard and Ryan Anderson for LBJ

One of the deals that @ least would have the Cavs thinking... Still doesn't happen but it allows Shaq's contract to not be re-uped and it gives Cavs the dominat big man in the leauge with a team that seems bizzarly like the Magic team that beat the Cavs in the East.

Strech 4, Playmaker @ wings (not quiet but...), All Star shooters everywhere

Trade doesn't happen because Howard lacks killer instinct and pretty much everyone knows it. He is like Shaq when Shaq focuses on rap and not hoops. "I will be good enough for you to not think I am loafing"

76er's

This was the closest I came to saying NO Trade while still making a Trade.

AI2, Dalembert, and Brand for Shaq and LBJ

I think this is the threashold of Ferry Hanging up the phone. I just think that Cavs like the named (remember the premis is Lebron has to get traded)

Raptors

Bosh, Bargnani, and Hedo for LBJ and Shaq

Hedo fills in @ 3 (Jamison becomes best 6th man ever) and the Cavs are suddenly the deepest team in the leauge who can run any type of Offense and can probably still play very solid D.

Depsite people probably going to explode on me for this... I believe this is actually one of the more probable senerios that the Cavs would entertain and it suprised even me by saying that but look @ the new team it forms. Find a weakness.

Wizards

Come on this is the ultimate NO TRADE! It would be a million small expiring deals I guess.

Mavs

Butler, Kidd, and Dirk for LBJ, Mo, and Jamison

Talent wise fairly close... Age wise... no chance! but player for player it is pretty decent trade.... Note I didn't include Shaq in this one because the idea of him, Dirk, and Kidd playing together interests me for some reason

Nuggets

LBJ for Melo'

Strait up... probably the closest thing to a fair trade (age, ability, etc)

Neither team makes this trade because they would want to "win" the trade, which would mean getting an extra talented player to make it worth their wile.

Golden State

Another one of those... CAVS blow up the roster to go young....

LBJ and Parker for S. Curry, Beirdrins, RAndolph, Morrow, and B.Wright

And then let the fire sale of other older talent begin... bye bye Shaq contract, someone please come take Mo and Jamison... we are offering pennies on the dollar (expiring $)

Rockets

LBJ for a HEALTHY Y. Ming

Yao is never going to be healthy again (not that he ever was) so... moving on

Clippers

People think that Clippers are in the running for LBJ... but come on it's the Clippers. ASSUMING that LeBron announces he is signing w/ Clippers... so we need a sign and trade

Blake Griffin and 10 million in expiring deals (I would say Kaman but who can trust such a brain dead player ... and he is on my fantasy team!) for LBJ

Still not going to happen

Lakers

Kobe and Gasol for Shaq and LBJ

this is the one that I think both teams would actually consider. IF the Cavs are losing LBJ then they have to have a player who can make the world forget about it.... I.E KOBE. Other reasons this interests me.

1) Kobe's deepest team ever
2) LBJ gets his big market and becomes the next Laker great
3) the most valuable puppets commercial after the trade
4) Shaq's second version of Kobe how's my a$$ taste
5) if LBJ can't be our hero, it would be best to make him the ultimate villian

Memphis

NO TRADE... sorry any time you are trying to convince yourself that Z-Bo is a franchise player... SHOOT YOURSELF!

T'Wolves

Love, Rubio, and Jefferson for LBJ

The numbers work and that's about all I can say about this one... unless you really think Rubio is the next Magic (I do not) and that Love will lead the leauge in Boards for years (I do not) and that Jefferson is a franchise player (I do not)

Hornets

Paul, West, Caulison, and Okafor for LBJ, Mo, and West, Boobie Gibson

I included alot of guards because if you are going to change your franchise player to the best PG in the leauge then you need a play maker as his back up (and Cavs PGs are not play makers... they are shooters).

This is actually a trade again that I think breaks the top 5 of serious consideration. Shaq isn't resigned and the Cavs team is pretty Deep and the Hornets do it because LBJ puts butts in seats!

Thunder

NO TRADE... not because of Cavs though... the Thunder are proving to be the best ran team in the business and while the tallent level is equal between LBJ and Durrant...

Why would you mess with their system and take on additional salary and be forced to give up your young talent.

Thunder would probably be the only team that would hang up on the Cavs.

Suns

Nash and Amare for LBJ, Mo, and Parker

@ first I was going to say no trade but the more I thought about it... this would be the deepest and best team to support Nash (my second favorite player)

Shaq is out, Jamison probably moves to 3, and Andy becomes your starting 5. West is good enough of a defender to help Nash and the same is true of Andy with Amare. And again the depth of the Cavs allows Nash to never slow down on the offensive end... TERRIFYING (ok and maybe a little biased because of Nash)

Portland

LBJ and A. Jamison for Roy, Aldridge, and Oden

Another of the top 5 actually interesting trades.... Roy is a poor man's LBJ, Aldridge is younger than Jamison (and slightly different players @ the 4 but still), and Oden... well he is the potential (probably never will happen) but I would pay Shaq (prob less money) to teach the potential future best big man how to be THE MAN in the Middle.

Kings

No Trade... Come on who do they have... if you had to... expiring deals

Spurs

Pains me to say it because I respect the organization but... No Trade.

Duncan is winding down, never have been sold on Parker, and Manu is done (I mean stick a fork in him done)!

Sorry nope!

JAZZ

I don't make this trade but here it is....

Boozer (kill him), D-Will (I like his game but he isn't a franchise guy), and Milsap for Mo, LBJ, and A. Jamison



That's it, it's long and it will get torn appart (if anyone even reads it) but there you go... does anyone disagree with me (other than those who ignore the paramaters)

:banghead: