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Karma
06-22-2005, 04:47 PM
Brown not in fold yet

Cavs wait, but he'll talk to Knicks

By Brian Windhorst

Beacon Journal sports writer


The process finally might be nearing an end, but the intrigue isn't over.

The Cavaliers are hoping that they'll be able to announce Larry Brown as their new president within the next week. Brown, though, might have one last conversation to have before officially taking the job.

An Eastern Conference executive said Brown has promised New York Knicks president Isiah Thomas that he'll talk to him about the Knicks' vacant coaching job at the end of the Detroit Pistons' season.

Brown has said repeatedly that he intends to check into the Mayo Clinic and deal with a health issue before deciding his next move. He also has said he doesn't want to coach any other team but the Pistons.

It is widely believed and reported, however, that Brown won't be back as Pistons coach regardless of his doctor's prognosis. In January, after the Knicks fired coach Lenny Wilkens, Brown called the Knicks his ``dream job.''

The deep-pocketed Knicks might be willing to match or beat the three-year, $30 million contract Phil Jackson got from the Los Angeles Lakers last week, which was a record figure.

Thomas has interviewed a number of candidates and still has interim coach Herb Williams but is believed to be waiting to speak with Brown before making a final decision on a hiring. The Cavaliers have been operating under the belief that Brown will be coming, but he has a history of changing his mind at the last minute.
Beacon Journal (http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/basketball/nba/cleveland_cavaliers/11954631.htm)

The saga continues.

NarlCavs
06-22-2005, 05:37 PM
What has to happen before Gilbert wakes up and realizes L. Brown is the wrong choice?

Another example of how Larry Brown can't be trusted. He has said that he's a coach and what he wants to do is coach. Why would you turn over control of your franchise to someone using you as a backup plan and who will move on in 1 or 2 years to his next job?

ChicagoCavFan
06-22-2005, 06:41 PM
A ploy to get more moolah outta Gilbert??????

West Remy
06-22-2005, 08:44 PM
Gilbert's Detroit fetish is truly unbreakable if Brown can pull yet another odd move and Gilbert still waits on him like an obedient dog.

Mac
06-22-2005, 08:52 PM
Every day that passes by with uncertainty is a good day in CTown.

If we can keep this joker out of Cleveland, we are in good shape.

Glen Infante
06-22-2005, 09:27 PM
Good Lord Gilbert, move on please. The more and more I read Larry Brown article's, the more and more I believe that he will decline Gilbert's offer last minute.

If Larry Brown is going to go to talk with the Knicks, then it is certain that being president for the Cavalier's is no where near agreed upon. Stick a fork in Larry, and lets please move on to the next guy. Larry isn't even going to live in Cleveland anyhow, what kind of President would that be?

PIP
06-22-2005, 09:45 PM
lets just give the gm spot to NARLCAVS already and call it an off season...........

LyXo
06-23-2005, 11:29 AM
Means absolutely nothing, unfortunately. Nobody is going to take the New York job. They just got rid of their most coachable player in Kurt Thomas for a future whiner in Q. They have a glut at the wing now and are cap-strapped for probably the next 10 years, if Isiah stays around for 2. Poor Knicks. Wait a minute, no. Screw New York, they deserve it.

Pioneer10
06-23-2005, 01:25 PM
Go Larry, Go to NY, Please pretty please

King
06-23-2005, 02:30 PM
I just hope this doesnt make the wait to have the front office in place even longer.

LyXo
06-23-2005, 04:03 PM
Woj: Brown headed to N.Y.?
Thursday, June 23, 2005

By ADRIAN WOJNAROWSKI
SPORTS COLUMNIST



When the original plans for Larry Brown's hustle to Cleveland were in the works, one source close to his camp insists, the plot included bringing Philadelphia president Billy King as his general manager and Memphis' John Calipari as coach. Everything would stay on the sly, the Pistons' season would end and the Travelin' Man would be on the move again, leaving the Pistons' bench for $10 million a year and the use of a private jet to commute between his Philadelphia home and Cleveland.

"Once Larry got called out on the whole Cleveland thing, he changed gears with it," the source said, and now, no one is sure where the befuddled Brown plans to turn once Game 7 of the NBA Finals is over tonight in San Antonio. From Detroit to Cleveland to New York, they're waiting on the end of the NBA Finals to see where the next gust of wind blows Brown, because maybe this time it could bring him all the way back to Madison Square Garden.

With the enemies and betrayals left on the long, jagged journey of his nomadic basketball life, Brown never could've made it this far in the business - to an improbable Game 7 against the Spurs - unless the one tangled truth within his web of untruths wasn't so downright indisputable: Brown is the best basketball coach in the world.

All is well in the NBA again. Labor peace has been reached, the teeny boppers will be out of the draft and the league has its first Game 7 in 11 years. Yes, the NBA Finals that America didn't want to watch have turned irresistible. The pressure on Brown to keep his dalliances from messing with the Pistons' rare chemistry faded weeks ago. For Game 7, the pressure is on the purported best player in the sport, Tim Duncan, who is suddenly showing up smaller in these Finals than he did in the Athens Olympics.

The way it goes in sports these days is that as long as you keep winning, you can keep double-crossing your way in and out of commitments and contracts. Brown kept changing his story about everything, but it doesn't matter. Knicks president Isiah Thomas is hanging in the shadows, armed with two of life's most appealing propositions to Brown.

Madison Square Garden.

And Cablevision's cash.

"Larry isn't an executive," one Western Conference official said Wednesday. "He's a coach. And with Larry, anything is possible. I can still see him finding a way to end up with the Knicks."

So can a not-so-doubting Thomas, who doesn't have to sell Brown on his self-confessed "dream job" of coaching the Knicks. Thomas wouldn't be still without a coach unless he was assured a window where he could negotiate with Brown and the Pistons about making Brown the Knicks' coach.

The Akron Beacon Journal ran a story Thursday saying that an Eastern Conference executive told the paper that Brown has promised Thomas he'll visit with him after Game 7. That sure looks like a Cavaliers' front office leak trying to put the public pressure on Brown to honor his commitment of taking over the Cavaliers. Trouble is, you can't shame Brown into anything. He has none.

For Thomas and the Knicks, part of the allure of chasing Brown is that you're never really out of the running with him. It isn't that he's already tired of coaching in Detroit or already bored with running the Cavaliers. As soon as you heard Brown say that the only team he would coach next year would be the Pistons, you knew the Knicks had a shot.

Brown could double-cross the Cavaliers by trying to go to the Knicks, and double-cross the Pistons by deciding to stay on the job. After all, Detroit president Joe Dumars appears ready to hire Flip Saunders to coach the Pistons next season.

Outside of teaching ethics classes, the job that least fits Brown's skill sets would be that of an NBA executive. That job calls for patience, for staying power, for the long view. That job calls for stepping out of the bright lights and into the shadows. Brown is impetuous, unstable and nobody that you offer $10 million a season unless he's going to coach your team.

Only Brown knows whether his medical condition is so serious that the doctors could tell him at season's end that they no longer want him to go through the grind of coaching. After all, that long-anticipated visit to the Mayo Clinic could be part of his exit strategy with the Pistons. All along, that was his ticket out of Detroit without a team needing to compensate Detroit. With the Knicks, it won't be too easy, but then, there's a way. There's always a way with Brown. Never believe much that comes out of Brown's mouth, but believe him when he says, "I'm a coach."

He's the best in the business, and these playoffs are affirming that all over again. Game 7 is tonight and Brown and the Pistons are threatening to steal the most improbable back-to-back championships in modern NBA history. At one point, Cleveland seemed like a good idea and all to him, but he's signed nothing. All Brown gave was his word to the Cavaliers, and what's that worth?

Thomas isn't looking for a father figure, just a championship coach. There isn't any honor chasing Brown from one broken promise to the next, but business is business. These days, the coaching genius of a Dean Smith and Red Holzman doesn't come with that old virtue. Herb Williams is a prince of a man, but who's kidding whom here: It won't be long until Larry Brown is on the loose. Stay in line, Isiah. Stay in line.


Source | NorthJersey.com (http://www.northjersey.com/print.php?qstr=ZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY3MTE3MDMmeXJ pcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2)

Funniest thing I've read in a while. It's sad that people from Jersey root for NYK. Can't believe I was born in that state.

Pioneer10
06-23-2005, 05:26 PM
My God, he wanted to bring in Billy King as the GM. That guy stinks as a GM!

Atleast it looks like Gilbert didn't fall for that one.

NarlCavs
06-23-2005, 05:51 PM
lets just give the gm spot to NARLCAVS already and call it an off season...........

Thanks L-P.
I'd take the job but I might then have to avoid coming here and getting bashed for a bad move. Sometimes I think many of us here could do a better of job running the Cavs in recent seasons.


Larry Brown to the Knicks is a real possibility. He's a native New Yorker and has said the Knicks are his dream job. Remember this is a guy who took jobs with the Clippers and the Nets when they were terrible before. The mess Isiah has created in NY might not bother him.
I can't wait to get this whole thing settled. It should have already been done anyway.

CBBI
06-23-2005, 07:56 PM
I hope Larry spurs us and Gilbert hires Danny Ferry and gives him complete personnel control.

I'd also like him to keep Warkenstein on board for all the hard work he is currently doing while Gilbert waits and longs....

Karma
06-26-2005, 06:46 PM
Should Leapin' Larry Brown indeed move to Cleveland perhaps the NBA could add another category to its all-time statistical data. If the NBA wanted to use baseball terminology, Brown would certainly lead the league in walks.
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