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Breaking: Joe Paterno is still dead
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
From his Wikipedia page:
"In addition to his legacy as a coach, Paterno is highly regarded for his contributions to academic life at Penn State. After the announcement of his hiring in 1966, Paterno set out to conduct what he called a "Grand Experiment" in melding athletics and academics in the collegiate environment, an idea that he had learned during his years at Brown. As a result, Penn State's players have consistently demonstrated above-average academic success compared to Division I-A schools nationwide. According to the NCAA's 2008 Graduation Rates Report, Penn State's four-year Graduation Success Rate of 78% easily exceeds the 67% Division I average, second to only Northwestern among Big Ten institutions.
Paterno is also renowned for his charitable contributions to academics at Penn State. He and his wife Sue have contributed over $4 million towards various departments and colleges, including support for the Penn State All-Sports Museum, which opened in 2002, and the Pasquerilla Spiritual Center, which opened in 2003. After helping raise over $13.5 million in funds for the 1997 expansion of Pattee Library, the University named the expansion Paterno Library in their honor.
In 2007, former player Franco Harris and his company R Super Foods honored Paterno for his contributions to Penn State by featuring his story and picture on boxes of Super Donuts and Super Buns in Central PA. A portion of the sales will be donated to an endowment fund for the university library that bears his name."
If we're going to judge the man, let's judge everything, not just his worst moments.
From his Wikipedia page:
"In addition to his legacy as a coach, Paterno is highly regarded for his contributions to academic life at Penn State. After the announcement of his hiring in 1966, Paterno set out to conduct what he called a "Grand Experiment" in melding athletics and academics in the collegiate environment, an idea that he had learned during his years at Brown. As a result, Penn State's players have consistently demonstrated above-average academic success compared to Division I-A schools nationwide. According to the NCAA's 2008 Graduation Rates Report, Penn State's four-year Graduation Success Rate of 78% easily exceeds the 67% Division I average, second to only Northwestern among Big Ten institutions.
Paterno is also renowned for his charitable contributions to academics at Penn State. He and his wife Sue have contributed over $4 million towards various departments and colleges, including support for the Penn State All-Sports Museum, which opened in 2002, and the Pasquerilla Spiritual Center, which opened in 2003. After helping raise over $13.5 million in funds for the 1997 expansion of Pattee Library, the University named the expansion Paterno Library in their honor.
In 2007, former player Franco Harris and his company R Super Foods honored Paterno for his contributions to Penn State by featuring his story and picture on boxes of Super Donuts and Super Buns in Central PA. A portion of the sales will be donated to an endowment fund for the university library that bears his name."
If we're going to judge the man, let's judge everything, not just his worst moments.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
I'm keeping him in my prayers, you guys that aren't have no soul because he made one mistake
I'm keeping him in my prayers, you guys that aren't have no soul because he made one mistake
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
ENabling? enabling? he went tot he campus police and reported it. He did what he was supposed to..
ENabling? enabling? he went tot he campus police and reported it. He did what he was supposed to..
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
Thats what he needed to do to cover his ass and that is all. That post was complete garbage.
Thats what he needed to do to cover his ass and that is all. That post was complete garbage.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
whats garbage i self righteous pompeous pricks begrudging a man in death who did nothing but improve and make lives better for thousands of people. people seem to think Joe paternos had all this power but he didnt he was a 70 year old plus coach at penn state where his only power was in popularity of not getting fired and coaching his football team. The trustees. vice presient and president have or had all the power in penn state and Joe was fully cooperative every step of the way. If reporting it to a man in charge of a 54 man police campus is nt suffcient im not sure what you expected joe to do that didnt put him on another end of a lawsuit.
You guys cant even let people mourn without pissing on a guys grave.
whats garbage i self righteous pompeous pricks begrudging a man in death who did nothing but improve and make lives better for thousands of people. people seem to think Joe paternos had all this power but he didnt he was a 70 year old plus coach at penn state where his only power was in popularity of not getting fired and coaching his football team. The trustees. vice presient and president have or had all the power in penn state and Joe was fully cooperative every step of the way. If reporting it to a man in charge of a 54 man police campus is nt suffcient im not sure what you expected joe to do that didnt put him on another end of a lawsuit.
You guys cant even let people mourn without pissing on a guys grave.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
Get off your high horse. You don't have the right to judge someone's opinion. And for the record, I'm not happy he has passed at all. But the man still was negligent in the way he handled the Sandusky issue.
Get off your high horse. You don't have the right to judge someone's opinion. And for the record, I'm not happy he has passed at all. But the man still was negligent in the way he handled the Sandusky issue.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
The sandusky scandal doesnt define Joe pa. it defines the trustees. the campus administration. campus police and an eyewitness with no spine. Joe trusted the people around him. its common for people at that age.
The sandusky scandal doesnt define Joe pa. it defines the trustees. the campus administration. campus police and an eyewitness with no spine. Joe trusted the people around him. its common for people at that age.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
So it was totally normal to let Sandusky hang around the campus/team even while kmowing he been reported for having sexual intercourse with a minor? It isn't all on Paterno, but he was the face of that college. He turned a blind eye because he didn't want to make waves. i
So it was totally normal to let Sandusky hang around the campus/team even while kmowing he been reported for having sexual intercourse with a minor? It isn't all on Paterno, but he was the face of that college. He turned a blind eye because he didn't want to make waves. i
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That's where you are wrong. It will define his career. And that may or may not be fair, but that's life. His past is always going to be tied with this incident.
That's where you are wrong. It will define his career. And that may or may not be fair, but that's life. His past is always going to be tied with this incident.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
doing good things is nice and all, but in the end they don't mean much when there aren't many things he could've done that are worse than "his worst moments."
it seems people are equating his mistakes with common mistakes made by lots of people. yes, everyone makes mistakes, most of which deserve forgiveness. this one most certainly does not fall into that category. enabling a rapist is a hell of a lot more than a "mistake"
none of those things really negate covering up for a rapist. nothing really could.
doing good things is nice and all, but in the end they don't mean much when there aren't many things he could've done that are worse than "his worst moments."
lol
it seems people are equating his mistakes with common mistakes made by lots of people. yes, everyone makes mistakes, most of which deserve forgiveness. this one most certainly does not fall into that category. enabling a rapist is a hell of a lot more than a "mistake"
lol
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
People(magazine) is reporting that he died. Still not sure what the real deal is.
If I'm being honest, I can't say that I'm too broke up about the guy dying. Don't wish him dead, but I'm sure as hell not "sad" about it. Yeah, the guy told told his supervisor about the sexual assault, but I don't think he did all he could(ie. going to the police himself).
People die everyday and we don't ever think twice about it. I'm not going to mourn too much over a guy that turned a blind eye to child molestation. Sorry if that offends anyone.
People(magazine) is reporting that he died. Still not sure what the real deal is.
If I'm being honest, I can't say that I'm too broke up about the guy dying. Don't wish him dead, but I'm sure as hell not "sad" about it. Yeah, the guy told told his supervisor about the sexual assault, but I don't think he did all he could(ie. going to the police himself).
People die everyday and we don't ever think twice about it. I'm not going to mourn too much over a guy that turned a blind eye to child molestation. Sorry if that offends anyone.
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
He did goto the police. his boss happened to be a state certified police chief.
Joe beleived in innocent until proven guilty. He was 75 when this happened and he passed it off like he was supposed to. fact is Joe Paterno couldn't of stropped sandusky if he wanted to.
The university gave the guy an office and didn't demand he be removed from the mile group he used to exploit .
Joe was about football and education and doing the right things. you would argue campus police in 99 enabled sanduskey. the attorney general not pressing charges enable sandusky.
Joe didn't witness it. he didn't see anything happen. he disputes being provided details. the true enabler s are the ones facing charges for it. You dont ruin a mans life over heresy you hand the matter over to the people in place to handle such matters.
sure Joe can be criticized for not following up or getting more involved in the process but villianized? labeled an enabler..
There were guys who knew far more than joe about this with more actual power who enabled this to occur on Penn state campus but this guy also did the same things at five different colleges for apparently many years.
Sandusky had many friends throughout Pennsylvania in powerful places not named joe paterno,
He did goto the police. his boss happened to be a state certified police chief.
Joe beleived in innocent until proven guilty. He was 75 when this happened and he passed it off like he was supposed to. fact is Joe Paterno couldn't of stropped sandusky if he wanted to.
The university gave the guy an office and didn't demand he be removed from the mile group he used to exploit .
Joe was about football and education and doing the right things. you would argue campus police in 99 enabled sanduskey. the attorney general not pressing charges enable sandusky.
Joe didn't witness it. he didn't see anything happen. he disputes being provided details. the true enabler s are the ones facing charges for it. You dont ruin a mans life over heresy you hand the matter over to the people in place to handle such matters.
sure Joe can be criticized for not following up or getting more involved in the process but villianized? labeled an enabler..
There were guys who knew far more than joe about this with more actual power who enabled this to occur on Penn state campus but this guy also did the same things at five different colleges for apparently many years.
Sandusky had many friends throughout Pennsylvania in powerful places not named joe paterno,
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Re: Breaking: Joe Paterno is in serious condition
a man is dying, he is losing his life to cancer, and there are people in this world, on this board that think he deserves it? for shame. there are very few people who you can make an argument for that deserve death, and joepa while having made a mistake does not even get close to entering the category of deserving death. you can argue all you want, but when push comes to shove joepa wasnt the one that was raping kids, and a whole lot of people are missing that right now.
a man is dying, he is losing his life to cancer, and there are people in this world, on this board that think he deserves it? for shame. there are very few people who you can make an argument for that deserve death, and joepa while having made a mistake does not even get close to entering the category of deserving death. you can argue all you want, but when push comes to shove joepa wasnt the one that was raping kids, and a whole lot of people are missing that right now.