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Canada has contributed nothing to this world. (Don't say Hockey or Maple Syrup because nobody gives a shit about either)
 
Canada has contributed nothing to this world. (Don't say Hockey or Maple Syrup because nobody gives a shit about either)

Ok I'll say basketball.

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but you right i dont care bout canada
 
Canada has contributed nothing to this world. (Don't say Hockey or Maple Syrup because nobody gives a shit about either)

WRONG. Read some history.

WWII is a great example. Canada entered the war voluntarily in 1939, as it understood the threat that Nazi Germany posed towards western civilization. Meanwhile, the U.S. turned the other cheek while its banking systems and corporations played a huge role in the rise of Nazi Germany. We then "sat out" the war for years while our bankers and corporations lined their pockets with dirty money.

The three largest loans handled by the Wall Street international bankers for German borrowers in the 1920s under the Dawes Plan were for the benefit of three German cartels which a few years later aided Hitler and the Nazis to power. American financiers were directly represented on the boards of two of these three German cartels.

German combines of I.G. Farben and Vereinigte Stahlwerke dominated the chemical and steel cartel system created by these loans. The two cartels produced 95 percent of German explosives in 1937-8 on the eve of World War II. The I. G. Farben-Standard Oil cooperation for production of synthetic oil from coal gave I. G. Farben a monopoly of German gasoline production during World War II.

Moreover, American assistance to Nazi war efforts extended into other areas. The two largest tank producers in Hitler's Germany were Opel, a wholly owned subsidiary of General Motors (controlled by the J.P. Morgan firm), and the Ford A. G. subsidiary of the Ford Motor Company of Detroit.

Alcoa and Dow Chemical worked closely with Nazi industry with numerous transfers of their domestic U.S. technology. Bendix Aviation, in which the General Motors firm had a major stock interest, supplied Siemens & Halske A. G. in Germany with data on automatic pilots and aircraft instruments. As late as 1940, Bendix Aviation supplied complete technical data to Robert Bosch for aircraft and diesel engine starters and received royalty payments in return.

http://www.thebigstinkguide.com/archives/wall_hitler.htm
 
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They also entered World War I before us. IGWT, I've noticed you come up with some idiotic posts sometimes. I don't know if you're trying to be funny or what.
 
Canada has contributed nothing to this world. (Don't say Hockey or Maple Syrup because nobody gives a shit about either)

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One has condoned fighting and the other makes pancakes and waffles edible. Have you ever had pancakes or waffles without syrup? I have. I wouldn't recommend it.
 
WRONG. Read some history.

WWII is a great example. Canada entered the war voluntarily in 1939, as it understood the threat that Nazi Germany posed towards western civilization. Meanwhile, the U.S. turned the other cheek while its banking systems and corporations played a huge role in the rise of Nazi Germany. We then "sat out" the war for years while our bankers and corporations lined their pockets with dirty money.



http://www.thebigstinkguide.com/archives/wall_hitler.htm

WRONG. The U.S gave our allies supplies, tanks, guns, money etc.. read some history.
 
WRONG. Read some history.

WWII is a great example. Canada entered the war voluntarily in 1939, as it understood the threat that Nazi Germany posed towards western civilization. Meanwhile, the U.S. turned the other cheek while its banking systems and corporations played a huge role in the rise of Nazi Germany. We then "sat out" the war for years while our bankers and corporations lined their pockets with dirty money.



http://www.thebigstinkguide.com/archives/wall_hitler.htm

:rolleyes:

Yeah, this totally legitimizes Canada in WWII. Them filthy 'murrricans.
 
And this is why you never want a large enough government where they make decisions for you.
 
WRONG. The U.S gave our allies supplies, tanks, guns, money etc.. read some history.

I'm not arguing the fact that the U.S. government was backing the allies with supplies behind the scenes before Pearl Harbor and our declaration of war. I AM arguing that we allowed the situation to grow as bad as it did in Germany on the premise of MAKING MONEY before we stepped in. We could have done more, sooner... and we didn't. We, as a country, profited from both sides. Canada, while much weaker, smaller, and less wealthy than us, has the distinction of saying that they at least stepped into the war on the "good guys" side from the start.

The statement made was that Canada hadn't contributed anything to the world. My response was simply to show an example of how they did contribute. In fact, for the first half of WWII, they reacted better than we did.
 
I'm not arguing the fact that the U.S. government was backing the allies with supplies behind the scenes before Pearl Harbor and our declaration of war. I AM arguing that we allowed the situation to grow as bad as it did in Germany on the premise of MAKING MONEY before we stepped in. We could have done more, sooner... and we didn't. We, as a country, profited from both sides. Canada, while much weaker, smaller, and less wealthy than us, has the distinction of saying that they at least stepped into the war on the "good guys" side from the start.

The statement made was that Canada hadn't contributed anything to the world. My response was simply to show an example of how they did contribute. In fact, for the first half of WWII, they reacted better than we did.

Bro, you can't be seriously defending Canada's great "impact" on the world by saying it entered WWII well before the U.S. in 1939 by volunteering a lousy 5 divisions of Army personnel and at the same time criticize the U.S :chuckles:. Canada benefited from the war just as much as we did by transitioning from an agriculture based economy to a more industrialized economy. Canada's version of the great depression lasted from 1929 to 1939, the same year they entered the war. Hmmm, imagine that, sounds like they made off pretty well. It even took them 2 years of debate in their parliament to finally declare war. It's not like they instantly jumped into it because of their stern moral high ground. You could argue they essentially just declared war to jump start their economy.

If this is your best attempt at defending Canada's global impact by saying they volunteered a small, poorly equipped force after two years of debate only to end up reaping the same economic awards as the U.S., then your point is quite a reach.

Especially since you criticize the U.S. and if it weren't for us the entire world would be speaking German.
 
And I'll echo IGWT's statement, Canada can suck it. Although, no offense or anything to the thread starter.
 
damn you gourimoko i read some of your posts and want to kill you, and read others and think youre awesome. my thought on healthcare is it has to start somewhere. i dont think 'obamacare' is a legit end game choice, however i do think it is a fantastic middle game, that ultimately pushes everyone to a public option.

my co-worker actually has an interesting idea is basically you get some many free public doctors visits a year (where as a referral is not considered multiple visits). After you go over that number of visits the price falls on yourself to pay, or conversely you can always do a private doctor. this keeps people from abusing the system but at the same time keeps options open to everyone.

My thoughts exactly.
 
The bankers didn't keep us out of WWII. They wanted us in ASAP. They love to make money on both sides of wars. Print it, lend it out to make bombs, blow up the bombs, print some more, lend it out, etc. They got us into WWI too, which it was caused WWII. Woodrow Wilson was their best friend. He signed the Federal Reserve cartel into existence and then marched our young people into machine gun fire to make the bankers billions. Now every president tries to be like Wilson. Our whole foreign policy is based on his visions of empire and war profiteering.
 
I don't feel I'm entitled to healthcare, but I feel I should be able to purchase it. Just because I have spina bifida does that mean I should be blocked from buying my own plan of health coverage? Do you think the current system we are under where I am forced onto Medicaid and am only permitted to make 400 dollars a month makes sense?

Do you understand what you are arguing? I know for a fact you can purchase health care. If you took a brief case full of $100 bills into a hospital they would give you whatever treatment you need.

So you can purchase it, you just can't afford it.

Why do you think it is so expensive? The doctors and insurance companies are just gouging customers? Or is it because the government has printed trillions of dollars and forced it into the health care industry?

You are arguing for lower prices, not access. So the options are to stop subsidizing medical care, which will bring prices down dramatically, or have the government put price controls on health care, which will accomplish what price controls always accomplish, shortages of the product or service they are suppressing the price of. Remember the gas lines in the 70s? Do you think we ran out of oil?

So you can have cheaper medical care by the getting the government out or by having them deny access to some while allowing access to others. (Yes that is how universal health care works, access really isn't universal. A bureaucrat essentially decides who gets health care and who doesn't.)
 
Dude I'm sorry, I don't want to go all political right now, but I'm tired of hearing how Canada is better than the United States when it comes to health care. Sure, all Americans can cry about the cost of health care and say Canada is better because its free, but thats complete crap. Nothing is free. Do you know how terrible Canadas service is when it comes to health care? This story proves it right here. It will take forever just to get into a doctor because no one has to pay for it, so everyone will be lining up, and then the service will be terrible once you get there because they have so many people to look at, and they aren't getting paid so they probably won't care at all. Plus the fact that they won't have the money for instances like this. You can say what you want, but the United States has a better system for this. We got this right, so stop complaining about it.
 

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