Rating Coach Scott (WE WANT WITTMAN BACK !!!)

[theshad]

Re: Rating Coach Scott

The writing will be in the papers when we awaken to his firing after the season is over. That's all that needs to be said about this joke of a coach.

That'll be pretty weird with them just exercising his 2013-2014 option.

 

[Pyro]

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That'll be pretty weird with them just exercising his 2013-2014 option.

Acta had his contract exercised for next season, and where is he now?

 

[pr26]

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The writing will be in the papers when we awaken to his firing after the season is over. That's all that needs to be said about this joke of a coach.

Rcf donation bet? $20?

 

[theshad]

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Acta had his contract exercised for next season, and where is he now?

Except they are quite different circumstances. Acta was expected to lead us to the playoffs and instead had an impressively terrible run after the all star break, Scott has no such expectations.

 

[Ohio]

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Scott has been great developing our young players. And I want him to continue to do so.

But when that is not needed anymore, I would not mind a change. His substitutions/rotations and extremely poor usage of timeouts reminds me of a certain coach that was just fired by the Lakers.

Who knows, maybe when this team is ready to contend his philosophies will change.

Guess what I'm saying his, the first year this team doesn't meet expectations, find someone else. His leash should be shorter than it seems to be IMO.

 

[rabman_gold]

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Scott has been great developing our young players. And I want him to continue to do so.

But when that is not needed anymore, I would not mind a change. His substitutions/rotations and extremely poor usage of timeouts reminds me of a certain coach that was just fired by the Lakers.

Who knows, maybe when this team is ready to contend his philosophies will change.

Guess what I'm saying his, the first year this team doesn't meet expectations, find someone else. His leash should be shorter than it seems to be IMO.

I don't agree with that. When Chris Grant convinced him, there were circumstances that had to be met. If "he" came back, they would've been building for contender mode. But since it didn't come to that, the approached changed. That's when Chris came to Scott with the suggestion to build back up with him at the hub. His past resume has shown good promise when they had a team to build around. But this time, Scott gets a word in to all of the pieces and uses them accordingly. The fact that Grant and he work together is also good. And since Grant convinced the head honcho that a rebuild is necessary, that gives them a few extra years to build at least 10 deep. They may have 1 superstar, 1 possible all-star, and 3 core pieces; but they continue finding the right opportunities through the small market method.

Scott led a team twice to the NBA Finals and got to the Western Conference Semi-Finals (almost made it to the conference finals) with different rules in place. You can't write him off unless he oversteps his boundaries, something he hasn't done. Give him another impact player or two, some defensive guys from the perimeter and post, and then see where we go with that.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

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Acta had his contract exercised for next season, and where is he now?

Not a rebuilding team

 

[JSS2306]

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Scott is doing everything that could be expected. He is experimenting with various line ups to see what works and what doesn't. The problem is, his second unit doesn't play as a unit and that may or may not be his fault. He's doing some interesting things and there have been great glimpses of what this offense could be with our starting line up. We have played some spectacular stretches of basketball this year already.

So far he's a B+ but probably would be higher if we had any sort of competent second unit.

 

[Ohio]

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I don't agree with that. When Chris Grant convinced him, there were circumstances that had to be met. If "he" came back, they would've been building for contender mode. But since it didn't come to that, the approached changed. That's when Chris came to Scott with the suggestion to build back up with him at the hub. His past resume has shown good promise when they had a team to build around. But this time, Scott gets a word in to all of the pieces and uses them accordingly. The fact that Grant and he work together is also good. And since Grant convinced the head honcho that a rebuild is necessary, that gives them a few extra years to build at least 10 deep. They may have 1 superstar, 1 possible all-star, and 3 core pieces; but they continue finding the right opportunities through the small market method.

Scott led a team twice to the NBA Finals and got to the Western Conference Semi-Finals (almost made it to the conference finals) with different rules in place. You can't write him off unless he oversteps his boundaries, something he hasn't done. Give him another impact player or two, some defensive guys from the perimeter and post, and then see where we go with that.

And what I'm saying is, if the team doesn't meet expectations after the bold comes true, we should look elsewhere.

I do not mean that we should just can him as soon as we are ready to contend.

Need to give the man a chance.

 

[Derek]

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I voted for "about as good as could be expected"

There are a lot of things I see on the court that I don't like, but I won't throw him under the bus yet for shortcoming that could very well be talented related.

However, I also don't want to hear about how great of a job he's doing when we're losing more games than we're winning.

IMO, the jury is out until there are actually some expectations surrounding this team.

 

[rabman_gold]

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And what I'm saying is, if the team doesn't meet expectations after the bold comes true, we should look elsewhere.

I do not mean that we should just can him as soon as we are ready to contend.

Need to give the man a chance.

I think you're half right. Once he gets those pieces. See how far he goes and what he did up to that point. If he only had one .500 season and a playoff berth, see if he can get to the semi-finals and extend it to 7. You need at least 2 years to see if those expectations were realistic or not. Then decide, but don't be rash about it. If we look to a replacement, it has to be an upgrade. Scott is better than Brown, no question. So be ready to pounce when the time is right.

 

[Randolphkeys]

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That's one way to look at it. Getting the opportunity now that the front court is bare is another way to look at it. A cynical way to look at it would be to say Andy's getting showcased for a trade like Kris Humphries was last year, but that's not quite fair because Varejao's actually good.

I'm watching Brooklyn play right now. Dear God, is Humphries useless. EDIT: As I typed this, he missed a two handed dunk. He just threw the ball past the rim with two hands.

Useless.

 

[MoFlo]

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I voted for "about as good as could be expected"

There are a lot of things I see on the court that I don't like, but I won't throw him under the bus yet for shortcoming that could very well be talented related.

However, I also don't want to hear about how great of a job he's doing when we're losing more games than we're winning.

IMO, the jury is out until there are actually some expectations surrounding this team.

These 2 are kind of contradicting. If there's no expectations surrounding this team, then wins & losses simply don't make sense to even bring up. Therefore, you judge him based on player development, etc

 

[redscoon]

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I think he's good for the young players because he has a recognizable NBA background that gives him leverage to ride them pretty hard. That is helpful in getting guys to develop and work on shortcomings in their games. He's not afraid to toss somebody under the bus for messing up a certain aspect of a game even if outwardly they appeared to play well. He has done that so far this year and also last with Dion and Kyrie respectively when it comes to defense. Being demanding and straight forward is good for this team because they have a lot of raw talent that needs harnessed and pointed in the right direction.

When it comes to actually coaching within the game I think he is quite poor. When simply telling guys to stop being careless and work harder isn't cutting it, I'm not sure he really knows what to do to stem the tide.

Ultimately, that probably makes him about the perfect coach for this particular group of players. He will help push the young guys to get better and not let them slack, but is a bad enough of an actual coach that he will cost us quite a few winnable games during the season that will keep us near the top of the draft board. I'm hesitant to call him a good fit here going forward beyond the next couple of seasons. He's going to need some really good game strategy assistants or he's going to need to grow quite a bit as a coach himself. Once the goal shifts from grooming players to winning big, I'm not sure he has what it takes to see that process through.

 

[Derek]

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These 2 are kind of contradicting. If there's no expectations surrounding this team, then wins & losses simply don't make sense to even bring up. Therefore, you judge him based on player development, etc

I don't really see them as contradictory. There aren't any expectations, but you can't say someone is doing a great job when they aren't winning games.

We really don't know how much of a difference Byron has made in their development, Kyrie started tearing it up in game 2 of his career after a lock out shortened offseason and hasn't looked back. LeBron became a great player with Mike Brown as his coach and I don't know many that would laud his player development skills.

I respect what Byron has done in his other coaching stints. However, since he's been here I've seen maddening substitution patterns, awful defense and a team that susceptible to having nights where they just don't show up.