Kareem Hunt: One Pissed Off Runner!

[I'mWithDan]

Super gross.

Makes me embarrassed to be a Browns fan to root for him.

I'm sure I won't care on sundays in the fall when he's out there with the football, but good lord do I not want to root for him.

I understand the sentiment but I think this is also a conversation everyone needs to honestly have with themselves.

Is a human being redeemable? Or are there situations in life, like kicking a woman, where it simply doesn't matter if a person is sorry, remorseful, redeemable, committed to being a better person?

I feel a lot like you do but I also struggle with someone who is 22/23 doing something in a split second, after an untold amount of instigation, alcohol, drugs, whatever and then just having their life, purpose, everything just done, with no chance to ever prove they are truly sorry and able to live a different life.

I would hope the Browns got a commitment for many things from Hunt, first and foremost being community outreach. He should be required to seek counseling, rehab, etc. but also to speak publicly to youth in the Cleveland area about his situation, the lessons he's learned, the steps he's taking to try to prove to people he made an incredibly stupid and disgusting choice. He should also be doing the same with the media.....he should be forced to sweat out those uncomfortable engagements.

If the Browns just stuff him in the linen closet, allow him to play football and avoid the media spotlight, I will view this far less through the lens of giving someone a second chance and more through the lens of it being a cold, calculated football decision. The latter I would have far, far more problems with.

 

[TheLand1287]

One thing is abundantly clear at this point...

John Dorsey doesn't give a fuck how badly or how often you screw up provided all your screw ups come before you're under his watch.

This signing is gross.

Cry. The Patriots employ cheaters all over their organization... one just won Super Bowl MVP, in fact. You wouldn't trade some questionable morals for a Super Bowl? I know cheating and DV is apples to oranges, but whatever. Hunt situation is not the same as Ed Hardy. If the chick was screaming racist slurs towards him and refusing to stop/leave, I mean... I'll save my sympathies for other people. Joe Mixon and Tyreek Hill are other recent examples and I don't see too many people feeling "gross" about them being on their favorite team or drafting them in fantasy football.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Do we know what the other 2 are? He under went alcohol treatment, so it might be a drunk thing.

Our own QB Jesus, Baker, has an alcohol incident too. If all 3 are domestic violence in nature, then I cant get behind this signing, but I don't want to assume by any means they are.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/...do-kareem-Hunt-chiefs-nfl/stories/20181203159

no idea on the third.

 

[Lee]

Ok, the other two incidents are bar fights. One was a fight his teammate started, not him, but he was involved after the fight started, this was before the shoving of the girl, then one in June after the shoving at Put-In-Bay which was another bar fight, this one I cant find any details.

All 3 involve alcohol though, so thus the alcohol counseling. Only 1 involves a female.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Joe Mixon decked a girl clear in the head, how many games did he get? He's still running for the Bengals. Kareem deserves another shot

The Bengals have a policy of employing criminals, thugs, dirty players and troublemakers.

Frankly if the argument is "well the Bengals do it" -- to me that's a good argument NOT to do something. All those bad actors and they still can't win a playoff game since they beat the Houston Oilers.

The Bengals won fewer games in the 90s than the Browns -- and we didn't even have a team for three seasons!

Maybe we're trying to fit in to the rest of the division. The Bengals have or had Mixon, Pac Man Jones, Burfict -- well just read on:



"Marv"elous. Then we have the Steelers with Ben Rapelisberger and the Ravens with Ray "Bloody Hands" Lewis as their heroes.

I just hope we have a short fuse with this guy. REALLY short. Shorter than Isaiah Thomas short.

 

[TheLand1287]

Might as well bring in Ray Rice while we're at it.

Except he was washed even before that incident. That's why he didn't get another shot. It's not fair, but that's how life is. Plus, situations are totally different. This isn't black and white. Knocking your wife unconscious for whatever reason isn't the same as kicking some random chick for screaming racial slurs. It's just not.

 

[Ohio]

This seems like it will limit Duke Johnson's touches more so than Chubb's.

If Hunt is gonna play for the Browns, Duke is gonna be outta here.

 

[Triplethreat]

Good teams always find this kind of signing and make it work.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Cry. The Patriots employ cheaters all over their organization... one just won Super Bowl MVP, in fact. You wouldn't trade some questionable morals for a Super Bowl? I know cheating and DV is apples to oranges, but whatever. Hunt situation is not the same as Ed Hardy. If the chick was screaming racist slurs towards him and refusing to stop/leave, I mean... I'll save my sympathies for other people. Joe Mixon and Tyreek Hill are other recent examples and I don't see too many people feeling "gross" about them being on their favorite team or drafting them in fantasy football.

Gross.

 

[Soda]

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/...do-kareem-Hunt-chiefs-nfl/stories/20181203159

no idea on the third.

He got into a fight on PIB. He's 75% of PIB goers, 95% if they're coming on the bus from Detroit for what used to be Christmas in July (cancelled now). Other than this establishing a pattern of violence and alcohol, which is concerning in this particular case, I do not have an issue with a young guy throwing a punch on PIB.

The 9 is the issue. Not sure about the 3rd, but that could be serious also.

It's so odd how this works, though. What Joe Mixon did was a hell of a lot worse, but it's okay because it was Oklahoma allowing him to continue playing? I'm not asking you to answer, just posing the question about the moral difference between Mixon & Hunt where Hunt is so much more deplorable than Mixon due to what seems to simply be timing.

 

[Real Deal]

The Bengals have a policy of employing criminals, thugs, dirty players and troublemakers.

Frankly if the argument is "well the Bengals do it" -- to me that's a good argument NOT to do something. All those bad actors and they still can't win a playoff game since they beat the Houston Oilers.

The Bengals won fewer games in the 90s than the Browns -- and we didn't even have a team for three seasons!

Maybe we're trying to fit in to the rest of the division. The Bengals have or had Mixon, Pac Man Jones, Burfict -- well just read on:

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"Marv"elous. Then we have the Steelers with Ben Rapelisberger and the Ravens with Ray "Bloody Hands" Lewis as their heroes.

I just hope we have a short fuse with this guy. REALLY short. Shorter than Isaiah Thomas short.

I'm almost for certain that the Browns organization will have a zero tolerance with Hunt. They're trying to strike lightning in a bottle and hope a young elite guy can turn his life around, all while being restricted.

 

[natedagg]

Football player is great.

Contract is even better.

Person needs work. Zero tolerance for sure, but at the end of the day, can we give him a chance to right his wrongs and change or once you are something are you always that thing?

The distraction will be now, during the off-season, and when he returns from suspension. With RFA status, I don’t see what we have to lose.

He might surround himself with the wrong crowd and be cut/traded... OR he really gets the right support system here and plays well, using football as an escape.

Baker will set him straight. Dorsey obviously was thorough on this one. Just let it play out. Great signing.

 

[Stark]

Kareem Hunt, Joe Mixon, Big Rape Roethlisberger, Vontaze Burfict, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis

Nobody mess with the AFC North.

 

[CBBI]

He's done multiple things wrong?

Chronologically, this was actually the first (known) Hunt altercation of the calendar year, taking place in the hours after the Chiefs’ Jan. 6 playoff loss to the Titans. A month later, Hunt attacked a woman in video that is now public, resulting in his being placed on the Commissioner Exempt List.

There is also a third incident, from June, that the NFL is investigating, in which the 23-year-old is accused of punching a man in the face at an Ohio resort.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/04/video-emerges-of-third-alleged-kareem-hunt-fight-incident/

View: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1095041188737007622


3 incidents in a year.

 

[col63onel]

I understand the sentiment but I think this is also a conversation everyone needs to honestly have with themselves.

Is a human being redeemable? Or are there situations in life, like kicking a woman, where it simply doesn't matter if a person is sorry, remorseful, redeemable, committed to being a better person?

I feel a lot like you do but I also struggle with someone who is 22/23 doing something in a split second, after an untold amount of instigation, alcohol, drugs, whatever and then just having their life, purpose, everything just done, with no chance to ever prove they are truly sorry and able to live a different life.

I would hope the Browns got a commitment for many things from Hunt, first and foremost being community outreach. He should be required to seek counseling, rehab, etc. but also to speak publicly to youth in the Cleveland area about his situation, the lessons he's learned, the steps he's taking to try to prove to people he made an incredibly stupid and disgusting choice. He should also be doing the same with the media.....he should be forced to sweat out those uncomfortable engagements.

If the Browns just stuff him in the linen closet, allow him to play football and avoid the media spotlight, I will view this far less through the lens of giving someone a second chance and more through the lens of it being a cold, calculated football decision. The latter I would have far, far more problems with.

There's a bridge between "redeemable" and "getting paid 7 figures to play football right away".

I thought Michael Vick was redeemable. He spent a year and a half in jail, and was able to go back to playing. He paid his debt, then was able to go back to work.

Now, maybe you're onto something and there is ample evidence that he's been reformed. But it seems really quick for him all of a sudden to be forgiven.