The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Triplethreat]

But it's not because they went there beyond the wall. It's the same arrowhead mountain in that scene as the mountain they're looking for in season 7.

No it’s absolutely not.

Bran is seeing his visions of this place. He is not actually there.

It IS the isle of faces where they were created. You can tell right off the bat when they show the face carved into the tree. A very key detail that was purposefully put there to give a subtle hint at the location of the creation.

 

[Jack Brickman]

It IS the isle of faces where they were created. You can tell right off the bat when they show the face carved into the tree. A very key detail that was purposefully put there to give a subtle hint at the location of the creation.

The Children carved faces into every weirwood tree if I recall correctly, so the presence of a carved face means little.

 

[Rich]

No it’s absolutely not.

Bran is seeing his visions of this place. He is not actually there.

It IS the isle of faces where they were created. You can tell right off the bat when they show the face carved into the tree. A very key detail that was purposefully put there to give a subtle hint at the location of the creation.

I dunno what to tell you dude but in the vision there's a distinct arrowhead mountain in it and then that same damn mountain is the one they go looking for in season 7 beyond the wall.

On a different note I'm still not sold on the Children carving faces into trees and instead it not being Three Eyed Ravens growing permantly into the trees.

 

[Triplethreat]

The Children carved faces into every weirwood tree if I recall correctly, so the presence of a carved face means little.

Could be true. But not *every* tree would have gotten the carving.

I know the one in winterfell does, however the whole point of it being called “the isle of faces” is because the children of the Forest carved a face into every single tree there.

I guess it’s just a shot in the dark but to me that was symbolic of that event happening there, at the isle. Just unknown to us at the time.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I dunno what to tell you dude but in the vision there's a distinct arrowhead mountain in it and then that same damn mountain is the one they go looking for in season 7 beyond the wall.

That area also looks nothing like how I'd picture the Isle of Faces. It looked cold and mountainous. The Isle of Faces is in the Riverlands, which should be much more lush and temperate.

It's also, you know...an island. That didn't look like island, unless it was an island the size of Iceland.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Could be true. But not *every* tree would have gotten the carving.

I know the one in winterfell does, however the whole point of it being called “the isle of faces” is because the children of the Forest carved a face into every single tree there.

I guess it’s just a shot in the dark but to me that was symbolic of that event happening there, at the isle. Just unknown to us at the time.

When the books tell stories of the First Men, they mention how they were freaked out by the faces carved into the trees. This implies that, at the very least, many weirwoods had faces carved into them.

The Children have also been all but extinct for thousands of years when the story begins, so any weirwoods that grew in that time would obviously not have faces.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

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[Rich]

The show really wants me to feel sorry for the Tarlys and man I just don't.

Same thing with Olly. They threw him in to make it seem like Jon was making a morally questionable decision (and I guess he was, to execute a child) by trying to make me care about Olly and....I didn't care about Olly.

 

[TyGuy]

The show really wants me to feel sorry for the Tarlys and man I just don't.

Same thing with Olly. They threw him in to make it seem like Jon was making a morally questionable decision (and I guess he was, to execute a child) by trying to make me care about Olly and....I didn't care about Olly.

Olly was a little asshole, he even had that asshole look on his face as he was about to hang.

 

[Rich]

Lol man Bran staring right at Tyrion and the music going dark...

I dunno man. Tyrion's gonna do some shit. Or has done some shit already and Bran knows it.



Davos later one talks about having to earn the NOrth's loyalty and the screen freezes on Tyrion for a good 5 seconds. He's cooking up some sorta scheme.

 

[Rich]

Olly was a little asshole, he even had that asshole look on his face as he was about to hang.

But see your SUPPOSEd to think "hey, he's a child, executing children is never right, particularly one who had a very serious bone to pick with the wildlings after we saw his family murdered."

Right, you're supposed to question Jon's decision to just execute him.

And yet............no one cares.

Some thing with Dickon Tarly. Randyll was an asshole in the same vein of Thorne, no one is gonna bat an eye when they get killed. But you're supposed to feel for Dickon and I just........who cares?? I dunno.

 

[Sebastian]

But see your SUPPOSEd to think "hey, he's a child, executing children is never right, particularly one who had a very serious bone to pick with the wildlings after we saw his family murdered."

Right, you're supposed to question Jon's decision to just execute him.

And yet............no one cares.

Some thing with Dickon Tarly. Randyll was an asshole in the same vein of Thorne, no one is gonna bat an eye when they get killed. But you're supposed to feel for Dickon and I just........who cares?? I dunno.

Yeah those did not work out well.

They are supposed to illustrate the burden of leadership and the awful choices they have to make. Or that the Good of the Many often means doing bad things to the one.

But, yeah, fuck that Olly kid.

 

[godfather]

Olly was a little asshole, he even had that asshole look on his face as he was about to hang.

Olly had the biggest douche face ever. And he betrayed Jon. I feel zero sympathy for his death.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Yeah those did not work out well.

They are supposed to illustrate the burden of leadership and the awful choices they have to make. Or that the Good of the Many often means doing bad things to the one.

The interesting thing about this is that the message/moral the writers are attempting to convey may be completely different from how it is actually understood by at least some fans. Like you, my guess is that's what they were trying to convey - the "burden of leadership". But I saw a pretty huge difference between sentencing to death someone who actively participated in the murder of the Lord Commander, and the burning alive of prisoners of war.

So to me, I take it as a sign that Danaerys is becoming power mad. Roasting alive a lord and his son because they refuse to bend the knee is a pretty thinly-disguised reference to what Aerys did to Rickard and Brandon Stark. And to me, Jon has always seemed a very reluctant leader. Rather than lusting after power, he actually dislikes having it.

Danaerys, on the other hand....

 

[Hurl Bruce]

22 extra minutes...NICE!!!

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