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Looks Like Noel Just Blew Out His Knee

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That photo looks bad but he didn't land like that. From watching the video that's just a reactionary bend to the knee hitting the pad..hopefully not an ACL type knee collapse.
 
Now that the thread is unlocked, let me take the opportunity to apologize for posting this in the "wrong" forum.

No need for the apology. It's not always clear where to post some items, and we occasionally end up moving them to other forums. Not a big deal. Certainly this is news that many Cavs fans care about.
 
That's gross, and it brings back terrible memories from my own ACL/MCL/PCL tear.
 
I wonder if he will stay in Kentucky another year or two now since he will be out for a possible 6-8 months or longer. His draft stock would probably drop him from 1st to still 2nd or 3rd. Maybe even 1st still, I don't know what teams think about that. I think people are more weary since they've seen what happened with Greg Oden.
 
I wonder if he will stay in Kentucky another year or two now since he will be out for a possible 6-8 months or longer. His draft stock would probably drop him from 1st to still 2nd or 3rd. Maybe even 1st still, I don't know what teams think about that. I think people are more weary since they've seen what happened with Greg Oden.

I would enter the draft if I were him. He's shown all that he needed to show in the NCAA to make him a high draft pick. Some team (maybe even the Cavs) will take the odds that he comes back and plays to the potential he showed this year.

If he went back next year and the unthinkable happened - like tearing the same ACL - he'd never get his payday.
 
I think he has to enter the draft if he a projected top 10 pick with the injury.. he won't get better treatment or rehab in college so he may as well get paid to get healthy and hit the gym.
 
Can someone post chad ford's column on this issue from a few minutes ago.
 
Can someone post chad ford's column on this issue from a few minutes ago.

He just posted an update on his draft board:

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead"><td bgcolor="#B96C00" colspan="9">Top 100 Draft Prospects</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="2%" title="Rank">RK</td><td width="5%">PLAYER</td><td width="29%">NAME</td><td width="5%">AGE</td><td width="6%" title="Position">POS</td><td width="6%" title="Height">HT</td><td width="5%" title="Weight">WT</td><td width="20%">SCHOOL/COUNTRY</td><td width="28%">PROJECTION</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">1</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19847.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19847/ben-mclemore">Ben McLemore</a></td><td>20</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/2/year/2013/shooting-guard">SG</a></td><td>6-5</td><td>195</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/2305/year/2013/kansas">Kansas</a></td><td>Top 5 Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> McLemore continues his meteoric rise up our Big Board and, if ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19847/ben-mclemore">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">2</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19804.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19804/anthony-bennett">Anthony Bennett</a></td><td>19</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/6/year/2013/power-forward">PF</a></td><td>6-8</td><td>240</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/2439/year/2013/unlv">UNLV</a></td><td>Top 5 Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Bennett had an unusually quiet couple of weeks. He had nine ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19804/anthony-bennett">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">3</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19795.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19795/nerlens-noel">Nerlens Noel</a></td><td>18</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/9/year/2013/center">C</a></td><td>6-11</td><td>215</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/96/year/2013/kentucky">Kentucky</a></td><td>Top 5 Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Feb 13 Update:</b> The University of Kentucky announced Wednesday that star center Nerlens Noel ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19795/nerlens-noel">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">4</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19805.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19805/marcus-smart">Marcus Smart</a></td><td>18</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/1/year/2013/point-guard">PG</a></td><td>6-4</td><td>225</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/197/year/2013/oklahoma-state">Oklahoma State</a></td><td>Top 5 Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Smart gets this high on the Big Board based more on ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19805/marcus-smart">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">5</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19735.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19735/shabazz-muhammad">Shabazz Muhammad</a></td><td>19</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/5/year/2013/strong-forward">SF</a></td><td>6-6</td><td>225</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/26/year/2013/ucla">UCLA</a></td><td>Top 5 Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Muhammad continues to rebound from a shaky start. In the four ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19735/shabazz-muhammad">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">6</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19814.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19814/alex-len">Alex Len</a></td><td>19</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/9/year/2013/center">C</a></td><td>7-1</td><td>225</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/120/year/2013/maryland">Maryland</a></td><td>Top 5 Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Len has the talent to be the No. 1 pick in ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19814/alex-len">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">7</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19696.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19696/cody-zeller">Cody Zeller</a></td><td>20</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/9/year/2013/center">C</a></td><td>6-11</td><td>210</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/84/year/2013/indiana">Indiana</a></td><td>Top 10 Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 28 Update:</b> A little more than a month ago, I had Zeller atop ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19696/cody-zeller">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">8</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19761.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19761/otto-porter">Otto Porter</a></td><td>19</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/5/year/2013/strong-forward">SF</a></td><td>6-8</td><td>200</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/46/year/2013/georgetown">Georgetown</a></td><td>Top 10 Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Porter continues to grow as both a player and as the ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19761/otto-porter">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">9</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19702.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19702/michael-carter-williams">Michael Carter-Williams</a></td><td>21</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/1/year/2013/point-guard">PG</a></td><td>6-5</td><td>175</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/183/year/2013/syracuse">Syracuse</a></td><td>Top 10 Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Carter-Williams remains holding on, perilously, to the top spot in our ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19702/michael-carter-williams">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">10</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19802.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19802/victor-oladipo">Victor Oladipo</a></td><td>20</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/2/year/2013/shooting-guard">SG</a></td><td>6-5</td><td>214</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/84/year/2013/indiana">Indiana</a></td><td>Top 10 Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 28 Update:</b> A little more than a month ago, I had Zeller atop ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19802/victor-oladipo">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">11</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19807.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19807/alex-poythress">Alex Poythress</a></td><td>19</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/5/year/2013/strong-forward">SF</a></td><td>6-7</td><td>215</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/96/year/2013/kentucky">Kentucky</a></td><td>Lottery Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Poythress continues to ooze potential but also still plays like a ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19807/alex-poythress">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">12</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19400.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19400/mason-plumlee">Mason Plumlee</a></td><td>22</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/6/year/2013/power-forward">PF</a></td><td>6-10</td><td>230</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/150/year/2013/duke">Duke</a></td><td>Lottery Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Plumlee has come down to earth as the Blue Devils have ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19400/mason-plumlee">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">13</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19796.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19796/isaiah-austin">Isaiah Austin</a></td><td>19</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/6/year/2013/power-forward">PF</a></td><td>7-0</td><td>215</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/239/year/2013/baylor">Baylor</a></td><td>Lottery Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Austin continues to inspire debate among scouts concerning how his game ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19796/isaiah-austin">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">14</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19759.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19759/trey-burke">Trey Burke</a></td><td>20</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/1/year/2013/point-guard">PG</a></td><td>6-1</td><td>175</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/130/year/2013/michigan">Michigan</a></td><td>Lottery Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 28 Update:</b> Burke is making a strong case to be the national player ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19759/trey-burke">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">15</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19788.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19788/cj-mccollum">C.J. McCollum</a></td><td>21</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/2/year/2013/shooting-guard">SG</a></td><td>6-3</td><td>190</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/2329/year/2013/lehigh">Lehigh</a></td><td>Mid-First Round Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> McCollum may have been the best scorer in college basketball before ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19788/cj-mccollum">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">16</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19820.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19820/archie-goodwin">Archie Goodwin</a></td><td>18</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/2/year/2013/shooting-guard">SG</a></td><td>6-5</td><td>195</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/96/year/2013/kentucky">Kentucky</a></td><td>Mid-First Round Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Goodwin can be an amazing finisher at the basket, but when ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19820/archie-goodwin">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">17</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19730.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19730/rudy-gobert">Rudy Gobert</a></td><td>20</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/6/year/2013/power-forward">PF</a></td><td>7-1</td><td>220</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/3000/year/2013/france">France</a></td><td>Mid-First Round Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Gobert is starting to play a bigger role on his team ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19730/rudy-gobert">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">18</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19848.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19848/jamaal-franklin">Jamaal Franklin</a></td><td>21</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/2/year/2013/shooting-guard">SG</a></td><td>6-5</td><td>195</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/21/year/2013/san-diego-state">San Diego State</a></td><td>Mid-First Round Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Franklin is an elite athlete, a terrific rebounder and a defensive ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19848/jamaal-franklin">more</a></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td rowspan="2">19</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19853.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19853/willie-cauley-stein">Willie Cauley-Stein</a></td><td>20</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/9/year/2013/center">C</a></td><td>7-0</td><td>220</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/96/year/2013/kentucky">Kentucky</a></td><td>Mid-First Round Pick</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Cauley-Stein hasn't played in four games thanks to a knee injury ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19853/willie-cauley-stein">more</a></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td rowspan="2">20</td><td rowspan="2" align="center"><img src="http://a.espncdn.com/i/nba/draft2013/headshots/19811.jpg" style="width:35px; height:48px;"></td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19811/dario-saric">Dario Saric</a></td><td>18</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/position/_/id/5/year/2013/strong-forward">SF</a></td><td>6-10</td><td>223</td><td><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/school/_/id/3013/year/2013/croatia">Croatia</a></td><td>Mid First-Round Pick</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b>Jan 30 Update:</b> Saric continues to be living mostly on reputation at the moment. ...<a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19811/dario-saric">more</a></td></tr></tbody></table>
 
He'll still enter the draft this year.

Fords column basically said there's pretty much no way that he'll be the number one pick this year, but he'll still likely be top 5, and that came from discussions with GMs. They said most of them already know how he projects as a player and the knee injury wouldn't scare them off, unless they were considering him at number 1.

He wouldn't be the number one pick next year anyway with Wiggins in the draft, so he may as well come out now and start earning pay checks.
 
Then there is this:

Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft

Silly conclusion by @chadfordinsider to rule out Noel from being the top pick. Its a wide open #NBADraft & until order is set no one knows.
 
Then there is this:

Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft

Silly conclusion by @chadfordinsider to rule out Noel from being the top pick. Its a wide open #NBADraft & until order is set no one knows.

I doubt it's silly at all. Ligament tears are no joke. Yes they have some of the best medical care in the world, but everyone reponds differently to a major injury. Not every player is going to come back like Peterson did, and have one of the greatest seasons in history. Look at Rose for example. Who knows how good he will be when he comes back. Will he still be agressive enough to be a great player, or will that fade. Taking someone with a serious injury #1 overall is not a wise decision. I'd be weary of taking him at #10.
 
So now here's the real question...

The Cavs have been improving and might end up with a pick in the 4-7 range. If Noel declares and is still rehabbing during the combine and draft day and falls to our pick, do you take the risk and take him?

I would assume Len, McLemore, and Shabazz are off the board by 4-7.

Derrick Rose says he added 10 lbs of muscle to his frame while rehabbing his ACL. I wonder if Noel can use this time to bulk up...he needs it BADLY. He was getting man handled last night by bigs that would get pushed around a bit in the NBA themselves.
 

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