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Religious Freedom Restoration Act: What You Need to Know
By Erin McClam



  • A furor has erupted over an Indiana law that opponents say could give businesses the right to refuse service to gay people. And the controversy is reaching its height just as the Final Four comes to town.

    Gov. Mike Pence, a possible Republican presidential candidate, says that the law is meant to protect free exercise of religion. The Republican leaders of the Indiana Legislature said Monday that the law does not permit discrimination of any kind, and they pledged to work quickly on language to clarify it.

    On the other side are public figures as varied as Hillary Rodham Clinton, Miley Cyrus and the chief executive of Apple. The backlash grew on Monday when the state of Connecticut announced plans to suspend government travel to Indiana.




    Here's what you need to know:

    Basics

    The law is known as Senate Bill 101. Pence signed it into law last week. It takes effect July 1. You can read the full bill here.

    The text says that the state cannot "substantially burden a person's exercise of religion" unless it is furthering a "compelling government interest" and acting in the least restrictive way possible.

    History
    Nineteen states have so-called religious freedom laws. They are modeled after a federal law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, signed by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

    It passed the House without objection and cleared the Senate by a vote of 97-3. Clinton said at the time that the law subjects the federal government to "a very high level of proof before it interferes with someone's free exercise of religion."

    Some legal experts have said that Indiana's law differs from the federal law, and most other similar state laws, in ways that could allow businesses a wider berth to discriminate.

    Context

    Gay marriage has been legal in Indiana since last October, when the Supreme Court declined to take up a challenge to a federal appeals court ruling. Indiana does not have a state law specifically protecting gay people from discrimination.

    As The Washington Post pointed out over the weekend, the other 19 states that passed so-called religious freedom laws did so before gay marriage became legal in most of the country.

    Last February, then-Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona vetoed a similar law. "I sincerely believe that Senate Bill 1062 has the potential to create more problems than it purports to solve," she said at the time.

    The backlash against the proposed law in Arizona was severe, and mirrors what is happening in Indiana. The NFL was even said to be considering moving the Super Bowl out of the state.

    Defense
    Social conservatives say that the law would stop the government from compelling people to do things they object to on religious grounds, like catering or providing flowers for a gay wedding.

    Daniel O. Conkle, an Indiana University law professor who supports both the law and gay marriage, offered a defense in an essay for The Indianapolis Star.


    Applying this test, a unanimous U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that a Muslim prisoner was free to practice his faith by wearing a half-inch beard that posed no risk to prison security. Likewise, in a 2012 decision, a court ruled that the Pennsylvania RFRA protected the outreach ministry of a group of Philadelphia churches, ruling that the city could not bar them from feeding homeless individuals in the city parks.

    Indiana Right to Life and the anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List have also come out in support of the law.


    Monday, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, a Republican presidential candidate, said in a Senate floor speech that Pence was "giving voice to millions of courageous conservatives across this country who are deeply concerned about the ongoing attacks upon our personal liberties."


    Pence told The Indianapolis Star on Saturday that he was in talks with legislators and that a clarification could come this week. On Sunday, he gave a lengthy interview to ABC's "This Week" and defended the bill.

    He said it was a "red herring" to suggest that the law is a license to discriminate. "This isn't about disputes between individuals; it's about government overreach," he said. "And I'm proud that Indiana stepped forward."

    But he sidestepped direct questions on whether the law sanctions discrimination. George Stephanopoulos, the anchor, then asked him: "Yes or no, should it be legal to discriminate against gays and lesbians?"

    Pence answered:

    George, you're — you're following the mantra of the last week online, and you're trying to make this issue about something else. What I am for is protecting, with the highest standards in our courts, the religious liberty of Hoosiers. I signed the bill. We're going to continue to explain it to people that don't understand it. And in — and if possible, we will find a way to amplify what this bill really is in a legislative process. But I stand by this law.

    On Monday, Pence penned an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he blamed Obamacare for creating the need for the law.

    Backlash

    Mark Emmert, president of the NCAA, expressed concern last week about "how this legislation could affect our student-athletes and employees." And in an interview on Monday, Emmert said he was "deeply concerned" about the law. He hinted that the NCAA might have second thoughts about future events in Indiana.

    College basketball's Final Four begins in Indianapolis on Saturday night. The tourism organization Visit Indianapolis told Forbes that the economic impact is more than $70 million.

    Elsewhere, the outcry has been widespread. Washington Gov. Jay Inslee on Monday banned official state travel to Indiana, saying the law "appears to legalize private discrimination."

    "I find Indiana's new law disturbing, particularly at a time when more and more states and people in America are embracing civil rights for everyone," Inslee wrote in an executive order.


    Tim Cook, who as CEO of Apple is the most prominent openly gay corporate official in America, published an Op-Ed in The Washington Post describing laws like Indiana's as "very dangerous."

    "These bills rationalize injustice by pretending to defend something many of us hold dear," he wrote. "They go against the very principles our nation was founded on, and they have the potential to undo decades of progress toward greater equality."

    Angie's List said it was canceling a proposed expansion in Indianapolis. Miley Cyrus, in an Instagram post, used an expletive to refer to the governor and said: "The only place that has more idiots that Instagram is in politics."

    And on Monday, the country's largest union of public employees, known as AFSCME, announced that it would move an October conference out of Indianapolis because of what it called an "un-American law."

    Among other prominent opposition:


    A fix?
    Brian Bosma, the speaker of the state House, said that the law does not allow discrimination against "any segment of the Hoosier community." He said that lawmakers would be willing to "put an exclamation point on that," and to work quickly.

    Both he and the Republican leader of the state Senate said that Pence could have given clearer answers on "This Week."

    Tim Lanane, the leader of the minority Democrats in the state Senate, said that there is only one fix — "repealing this hateful act."​
 
On it's face, I'm outraged by the perceived intolerance of individual life choices. I'm inclined to see this as a Civil Rights issue and I laud those who have come forward in opposition.

When you think about the counter-argument, though, my opinion above seems to impede and neglect people with strong religious beliefs. So, the outrage on the end of Civil Rights activists is, essentially, throwing intolerance right back at advocates for religious freedom, a freedom upon which this country was built.

So, who's rights should be oppressed? Seems like there's quite a bit of intolerance on both sides. I still am inclined to believe that religion should be left out of commerce, but who am I to say that?

In the end, if this Law is allowed to stand as-is, I feel like businesses who exercise the right to not serve homosexuals will eventually lose business and money. At that point, they will have to decide what is more important to them.. Conducting good business, or steadfastly upholding your religious beliefs.
 
Why go backwards when everyone in this country is trying to move forward?

Is intolerance so important that you have to hide behind "religious freedom" to express your hate?

The thing that gets me is that any of these people could wake up tomorrow and have a gay son or daughter. Would they want their children kicked out of businesses because of their sexuality?

Just flat out makes no sense.
 
Why go backwards when everyone in this country is trying to move forward?

Is intolerance so important that you have to hide behind "religious freedom" to express your hate?

The thing that gets me is that any of these people could wake up tomorrow and have a gay son or daughter. Would they want their children kicked out of businesses because of their sexuality?

Just flat out makes no sense.
The people that are doing this, yes.
 
Gov. Mike Pence, a possible Republican presidential candidate, says that the law is meant to protect free exercise of religion.

If these people weren't stupid bigots, they'd know that we already have the right to free exercise of religion in this country. No one is stopping anyone from believing in the god of their choice and going to church when they please. I'm an atheist and the only time I care about what religion people choose to adhere to is when they use it as an excuse to discriminate against other people, like with this law.

It would be nice to see March Madness move their tournament elsewhere as a show of protest, but I feel like it's too late for that at this point. Also, kudos to Charles Barkley for speaking out against Indiana as well.
 
I guess I look at things a little bit differently. I think if you own a business you have an absolute right to do business with anyone you choose to do business with.

I also think you have an absolute right to be a "bigot" as well. Let's be honest: the outrage against bigotry in this society is extremely selective. There are certain groups you can be bigoted against and certain groups you can't be bigoted against.
 
I'd like to point out the inconsistency that this so-called "bigot" is allowed to display his "bigotry" if he's on the other side of the transaction.

If he's the BUYER he has the right to go to whatever seller he wants for whatever reason he wants (i.e., he won't eat at a particular restaurant because the owner is gay). But once he becomes the SELLER somehow he gives up that right... now all of a sudden he's REQUIRED to enter into a business transaction??!

How long before the government starts monitoring our buying habits to see who is "bigoted"? I can hear it now...

"Well, Mr. Smith, we see that every restaurant you ate at last year was owned by a straight person, so we're going to have to fine you for refusing to BUY FROM a gay person."

Seems to me that if he is allowed to refuse to give his business as a BUYER to a gay person, he damn sure ought to be allowed to refuse to give his services as a SELLER to a gay person.
 
So, who's rights should be oppressed? Seems like there's quite a bit of intolerance on both sides. I still am inclined to believe that religion should be left out of commerce, but who am I to say that?

In the end, if this Law is allowed to stand as-is, I feel like businesses who exercise the right to not serve homosexuals will eventually lose business and money. At that point, they will have to decide what is more important to them.. Conducting good business, or steadfastly upholding your religious beliefs.

This. A thousand times this.

Businesses can act however they want, but consumers are free to not buy what they are selling as well.

Just as with the GOP as a whole, the tide has turned on this issue so people who dig in on this issue will continue to be ostracized.
 
Agree with most of what everyone here is saying.

On one hand, you've got bigots choosing to accept money only from people they're not bigoted against. And just using religion as an excuse to do it.

On the other hand, you've got the government telling those bigots that they have to accept money from someone they don't want to sell to.

I'm for the outrage against it, just because I think religion is mostly asinine and it's particularly asinine when it preaches tolerance and yet still discriminates against certain groups of people.

But I'm also understanding of the opinion that business owners should be allowed to accept money from whomever they want to and decline to do so at their own detriment.

Let's be real. Yelp, UrbanSpoon, facebook, etc will crush any business that exercises this right and they'll be gone anyways.
 
Funny side effect of this law was the Church of Marijuana was established as a legitimate church in Indiana on the same day.

Can't wait to see the legal defense of smoking weed being "religious freedom"
 
All this time, I was told creating a protected class for homosexuals was a bad thing.

If ya can't beat em, join em....I guess.
 
Indiana sucked before this law passed, and I can't stress that enough. The highways sucked, the restaurants sucked, the air smelled like cow shit. Hated driving through it everytime.

This law is going to crush what little outside money they had coming in. The law won't last the year.
 

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