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I've seen a couple premature mocks with Bosa at the top spot.

Washington
Elliot
Jones
Lee
Decker

All seeing spots in mocks.
 
Even though he never sent me my gear...and he may have a darker side to him...I love Urban Meyer. Do not care.

I make my triumphant return to the Shoe this year, so excited.
 
Cardale has to be a Brown.

He would own the city.
 
He'd wreck this league.

Oh wait, we did that one already.
 
Fortunately for Cardale, Manziel was never half the prospect he is.
 
Are we over hyping Cardale as a NFL prospect because of his OSU connection? Definitely.

But in a weird twist, the counter argument is almost underselling the guy, like he isn't going to be a quality NFL prospect.

If he starts, he'd be the favorite to win the Heisman. If a guy with Cardale's measurements wins the Heisman, he's the 1st round pick of the draft.
 
Are we over hyping Cardale as a NFL prospect because of his OSU connection? Definitely.

But in a weird twist, the counter argument is almost underselling the guy, like he isn't going to be a quality NFL prospect.

If he starts, he'd be the favorite to win the Heisman. If a guy with Cardale's measurements wins the Heisman, he's the 1st round pick of the draft.

Quality NFL Prospect and the Heisman trophy don't go hand in hand.
 
I think Cardale Jones is a top flight prospect just because of his twitter game. I don't see anyway someone that amazing could fail.
 
Are we over hyping Cardale as a NFL prospect because of his OSU connection? Definitely.

But in a weird twist, the counter argument is almost underselling the guy, like he isn't going to be a quality NFL prospect.

If he starts, he'd be the favorite to win the Heisman. If a guy with Cardale's measurements wins the Heisman, he's the 1st round pick of the draft.

We are? The majority of people I've seen hyping him as an NFL prospect are the media and people with no OSU connection...it's not just a bunch of OSU fans.
 
Quality NFL Prospect and the Heisman trophy don't go hand in hand.

More or less my point...

Jones has the NFL measurements, and if he put together a season statistically impressive enough to win the Heisman, it's hard to imagine he'd be anything but a consensus 1st round pick.

Chris said:
We are? The majority of people I've seen hyping him as an NFL prospect are the media and people with no OSU connection...it's not just a bunch of OSU fans.

I'd say there are two sides voicing their opinion on this board, and both seem to be at extremes:

1. Flail for Cardale... We should tank the season for the #1 pick and draft Jones, because he'll be the best NFL caliber QB to come out of the draft.

and 2. Jones has started only 3 games and despite his measurables he's a 4th round QB, 3rd round at best... Overhyped!

I think the truth is somewhere between. The guy is a stud built to a NFL frame, but he has shown some poor decision making and a lack of maturity from a leadership perspective dating back some time. But he stepped up and seemed to grow dramatically to finish off the season. If that maturity is realized, and he learns better how to read defenses, he seems like he could be a top collegiate prospect, and as such penciling him in to the 4th round seems a bit absurd and overcompensating to prove a point.

The fact is, the guy has only played 3 games, and all the hyperbole can only be resolved with more game film. If he isn't made a starter and plays 0 meaningful minutes going into the draft next season, I'd still bet money on him being a 2nd round QB. His size and athleticism is too tempting to pass up, even with a lack of game film.
 

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