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2015 Cleveland Browns Regular Season Thread

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From what I'm gathering, after checking throughout this morning, the report that Alec Scheiner is the 'mastermind' behind trading some of the Browns' veterans. That has been expounded upon by beat guys saying that Scheiner and the suits have far too much input in football matters, which has been talked about on the OBR for months now. There's also sentiment that I've been reading saying that Haslam sees the Browns as a profit source first and football team second. Lane & Sobo have also said something along the lines of Haslam sought advice from guys like Kraft, Rooney, Parcells, etc. and chose to ignore their advice.

Normally, I'd do my best to consider the source and wait before worrying, but the smoke is bellowing out in Berea. If you blow it up again, who's realistically taking the Browns job? More importantly, who's taking the Browns job seriously?

Just an example I pulled off Twitter a few seconds ago:
 
There's also sentiment that I've been reading saying that Haslam sees the Browns as a profit source first and football team second.

That's been clear as day since he got here. I feel duped in a way, because I thought he was going to be a free wheeling big spender based on initial impressions, but he has spent as little as possible on the product on the field.

The hoards of unused cap space every season goes into his pocket. That is a feature, not a bug.
 
From what I'm gathering, after checking throughout this morning, the report that Alec Scheiner is the 'mastermind' behind trading some of the Browns' veterans. That has been expounded upon by beat guys saying that Scheiner and the suits have far too much input in football matters, which has been talked about on the OBR for months now. There's also sentiment that I've been reading saying that Haslam sees the Browns as a profit source first and football team second. Lane & Sobo have also said something along the lines of Haslam sought advice from guys like Kraft, Rooney, Parcells, etc. and chose to ignore their advice.

Normally, I'd do my best to consider the source and wait before worrying, but the smoke is bellowing out in Berea. If you blow it up again, who's realistically taking the Browns job? More importantly, who's taking the Browns job seriously?

Just an example I pulled off Twitter a few seconds ago:

It wouldn't at all surprise me if Haslam is running the Browns as a business, considering he had to lay out a ton of money to buy the team and then had to lay out a ton of money to keep his primary business from sinking.

This is where fans have to step in and vote with their wallets by not going to games or buying merch. Unfortunately that's the one thing that Browns fans have not shown the ability to do in the past 16 years.
 
It wouldn't at all surprise me if Haslam is running the Browns as a business, considering he had to lay out a ton of money to buy the team and then had to lay out a ton of money to keep his primary business from sinking.

This is where fans have to step in and vote with their wallets by not going to games or buying merch. Unfortunately that's the one thing that Browns fans have not shown the ability to do in the past 16 years.

Haslam's Browns have appreciated in value from 1 to 1.5 billion in the small amount of time he's owned the team. I think that's enough to start thinking about actually winning games.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/194456/franchise-value-of-the-cleveland-browns-since-2006/
 
This is where fans have to step in and vote with their wallets by not going to games or buying merch. Unfortunately that's the one thing that Browns fans have not shown the ability to do in the past 16 years.

Not this myth again. The Browns average attendance is not the reason the team struggles and poor attendance isn't going to fix bad drafting.
 
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Haslam's Browns have appreciated in value from 1 to 1.5 billion in the small amount of time he's owned the team. I think that's enough to start thinking about actually winning games.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/194456/franchise-value-of-the-cleveland-browns-since-2006/

Yeah, but just like with people talking about the value of the Cavs going up with LeBron being back or just Gilbert's net worth in general, those numbers do not mean that Haslam has that extra $500M in cash on hand; it only matters if he's thinking about selling the team.

My only hope is that now that he's gone a few years not using the full cap and cashed in on new merch sales that he's made "enough" money to actually care about investing in the team. Either way, this is terrible news (if true), especially if a business guy is trying to call shots on the football side. I thought there was a braintrust meeting in the spring about everyone staying in their lanes?
 
Not this myth again. The Browns average attendance is not the reason the team struggles and poor attendance isn't going to fix bad drafting.

Somehow that quoted @Birdy89 instead of me. I'm not saying it will fix the team, but it will make them take note that they're are fucking up, especially if money is their driving force. If you keep giving them gobs of money then they have no incentive to change their actions.
 
Minus fan frustrations and media speculations - what imperical evidence do we have, in regards, to how effective or ineffective Haslam is as an owner?
 
I sincerely doubt Haslam views the team as just a "money maker" first and winning comes second.
 
Fuck Farmer and every other last piece of shit GM we've had the past decade that has made it so Joe Thomas had to be freaking traded because none of them knew how to do their job.

He should have retired a Brown and been a 1st ballot hall of famer, but one failure after another has ruined that.

Screw everyone last one of these guys, it's a freaking joke.

I hope the fans revolt, because this only happened because of incompetence....nothing else. No reason we shouldn't have had some semblance of a winner by now with the bounty of assets we piddled away the past 4 years.
 
Pettine just said there is no deal.

Lolwat is going on
 

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