2018 Minor League Thread

[chuck0609]

View: https://twitter.com/MLBastian/status/1039260335260225537

That certainly doesn’t say arm issues. Great news

 

[EdMonix11]

That certainly doesn’t say arm issues. Great news

He was shutdown due to "general soreness"

Mmhhmm

I mean, I hope he doesn't have an elbow issue but this kinda feels like damage control. A number of people in and around the Akron organization reported he was shutdown due to elbow soreness immediately after it was disclosed he wasn't on the playoff roster.

Guess we'll find out one way or another.....

 

[Derek]

He was shutdown due to "general soreness"

Mmhhmm

I mean, I hope he doesn't have an elbow issue but this kinda feels like damage control. A number of people in and around the Akron organization reported he was shutdown due to elbow soreness immediately after it was disclosed he wasn't on the playoff roster.

Guess we'll find out one way or another.....

To be fair, that tweet says fatigue, not soreness.

 

[EdMonix11]

To be fair, that tweet says fatigue, not soreness.

Yeah, I was referencing Antonetti's interview on The Athletic.... which I thought this tweet was referencing.

He basically said McKenzie has been shut down because he's not 100% healthy and they think it's fatigue.

What sort of fatigue? Well, different body parts. He's sore all over the place, he gets sore in different places but it's not arm related.

..... okay.

I mean, immediately following his disappearance from the Akron roster, the cat was out of the bag-- arm issue. Fatigue for a pitcher usually means there's an arm issue. The fact Antonetti can't give a single body part that's bothering Triston McKenzie is completely odd-- nagging hamstring injury, strained oblique, etc.

It's a weird situation all the way around.

 

[sportscoach]

Yeah, I was referencing Antonetti's interview on The Athletic.... which I thought this tweet was referencing.

He basically said McKenzie has been shut down because he's not 100% healthy and they think it's fatigue.

What sort of fatigue? Well, different body parts. He's sore all over the place, he gets sore in different places but it's not arm related.

..... okay.

I mean, immediately following his disappearance from the Akron roster, the cat was out of the bag-- arm issue. Fatigue for a pitcher usually means there's an arm issue. The fact Antonetti can't give a single body part that's bothering Triston McKenzie is completely odd-- nagging hamstring injury, strained oblique, etc.

It's a weird situation all the way around.

I think maybe you are looking too much into this. He did have shortened spring and everything like that so I wonder if that messed up his strengthening program type of thing. I would be worried if he wasn't healthy for spring, so until then I will assume he just needs general rest to recover. He is also still growing into his body in some ways since he is listed at only 165 lbs so I feel this is all precautionary like the White Soxs did with Sale.

He will make his MLB debut likely next season, but he will also be on an innings limit of 140-150 at most between the pros and the minors as well. 2020 is likely when they let go of the innings limit.

 

[chuck0609]

I think maybe you are looking too much into this. He did have shortened spring and everything like that so I wonder if that messed up his strengthening program type of thing. I would be worried if he wasn't healthy for spring, so until then I will assume he just needs general rest to recover. He is also still growing into his body in some ways since he is listed at only 165 lbs so I feel this is all precautionary like the White Soxs did with Sale.

He will make his MLB debut likely next season, but he will also be on an innings limit of 140-150 at most between the pros and the minors as well. 2020 is likely when they let go of the innings limit.

Agree with all of this. Just a little wired because he threw 143 innings in 2017, but if I’m reading it right only 91 this
year. That’s a significant drop off.

Maybe they started something different with him mechanically and are building strength, with an increase as you mentioned in 19 and full go in 20.

 

[EdMonix11]

Agree with all of this. Just a little wired because he threw 143 innings in 2017, but if I’m reading it right only 91 this
year. That’s a significant drop off.

Maybe they started something different with him mechanically and are building strength, with an increase as you mentioned in 19 and full go in 20.

Well, he injured his forearm in Spring Training this year.

He then throws 91 innings this year before they shut him down due to "fatigue".

Many people around the Indians and the Rubber Ducks reported that his elbow flared up. Antonetti then refuted that a few days later by saying he has general soreness and fatigue but didn't offer a specific body part of concern but made a point to say it's not a shoulder, elbow or forearm issue.

It's just kind of a bizarre situation.....

 

[sportscoach]

Well, he injured his forearm in Spring Training this year.

He then throws 91 innings this year before they shut him down due to "fatigue".

Many people around the Indians and the Rubber Ducks reported that his elbow flared up. Antonetti then refuted that a few days later by saying he has general soreness and fatigue but didn't offer a specific body part of concern but made a point to say it's not a shoulder, elbow or forearm issue.

It's just kind of a bizarre situation.....

I cannot disagree that it isn't on the odd side, but we really won't have an answer til next spring. I am hoping it is for precautionary reasons. I remember with Sale they made him a reliever at first because of they were afraid of his arm's endurance over the season. I have a hunch they shut him down because they don't want to take any chances with his future. My guess is the fact he is still growing into his body and developing that way as well plus he had some pain in the body (likely in the arm someplace) they are like, well, we aren't taking chances so we are shutting you down and we will start up training again in a few weeks plus a normal offseason.

 

[NorthCoastBias]

I knew McKenzie was skinny but holy shit. I think his calves and thighs are the same size.

View: https://twitter.com/Indians/status/1045659463229878272

 

[BMAN]

Tall/skinny people creep me out. How has that kid not added on any weight with a professionl program? Dude needs to eat.

 

[Derek]

Tall/skinny people creep me out. How has that kid not added on any weight with a professionl program? Dude needs to eat.

Go fuck yourself

 

[BMAN]

Go fuck yourself

No thanks got a headache

 

[sportscoach]

@EdMonix11 @Derek @AZ_ @BimboColesHair

I personally want some minor league reports from guys this season. Top ten or so prospects, guys who fell from grace and guys you think are climbing fast. I doubt I am the only one who is curious about this!

 

[EdMonix11]

Not much in the upper minors--
- Chang should be a solid big leaguer and he's beginning his transition to 3B in the AFL right now
- Bradley might be something too but he'll need to rebound to show this year was a fluke
- Mercado started to heat up towards the end of the season-- cost two solid prospects to acquire him so let's hope he pans out
- I'm lower on McKenzie than most-- I think he's very good but I don't think he necessarily has top of the rotation stuff plus there's some arm concerns.

The lower levels of the organization are absolutely loaded--
- Brayan Rocchio might be the #1 prospect in the organization. The reviews on him are incredibly positive and he could fly thru the system. Getting Jose Ramirez comparisons
- Nolan Jones looks like a potential all star
- So does George Valera
- Lenny Torres, Carlos Vargas and Ethan Hankins are starters throwing high-90's
- Bo Naylor, Raynel Delgado and Tyler Freeman are very advanced at the dish
- Luis Oviedo or Lenny Torres is my guess for the next pitching stud
- Will Benson's stats are ugly but his potential is through the roof. Went thru a swing reconstruction during the season this year and improvements started to show towards the end
- Sam Hentges had a great first full season coming off TJ surgery. Secondary stuff isn't back yet but he still struck out a batter+ per inning this year.... which is really impressive.

 

[sportscoach]

- Sam Hentges had a great first full season coming off TJ surgery. Secondary stuff isn't back yet but he still struck out a batter+ per inning this year.... which is really impressive.

What position do you see Chang in the pros at? What is his value via in a trade? I feel he could be the one piece we could end up trading for a player next season since we have solid players at 2B, SS and 3rd.

Hentges, if I am doing my numbers/rules correctly is Rule 5 eligible, do you think we need to protect him on the 40 man?