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2019 Draft Prospects Thread

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What's the deal with Nance Jr. looking like a shell of himself? Is he hurt?

I can't figure it out. He had the groin thing towards the end of the season. When he is in they won't feed him on the ally oop. I think it is a combination of injury, Lue, and Nance losing confidence. Never saw him lose confidence before, but with Lue pulling the strings....... When I first got on the board , most hated Lue. I didn't know why. Now I do. Anyone who isn't a vet of the championship days barely play. He just reverts back to what used to work. Why they traded everyone away is baffling. He hardly uses the new guys. And he is ruining their confidence also, so it just isn't Nance. My money is on LBJ going adios. The Celt is have been my team forever, but I have been wanting the Cavs to win. But I hate Lue with a passion. He really is clueless.
 
I definitely need to start frequenting the Browns section more often.

This guy is great.
 
I had to see if AZ had committed suicide or not. It was not. So at least one less funeral to attend this year. So how is the consensus on the draft? I hope Mayfield pans out. I think in some areas he will suprise, in others not as good as expected. But hopefully he helps the Browns win. I am worried about the O line in Buffalo. Not greato from what the posters are saying. Same with the receivers. Their D should be pretty good. I want to see Allen play, but knows it would be best for him if he didn't. It is about 80 - 20 over their as far as fan acceptance. Most realize Rosen wouldn't want to be there, and would more than likely get hurt. And a lot say they think he has peaked out for the most part. What you see is what you get. Not a lot of growth later. Not my opinion, as I really don't know much about him. I did love to see how pissed he was at the draft when they called his name. I figured he and AZ probably looked like twins about then. Lol.

Good luck with the season. Really hoping the Browns are in the playoff talk. This is definitely a team that has to learn how to win. Once they do they have the pieces in place. Listening to the Buffalo fans, they were saying Tyrod was the king of the checkdowns. Pretty much saying he was afraid of interceptions and would not challenge deep. That he would check out of it and throw short passes or hand off. Not much vertical game. They sounded frustrated about it. Take it c or what it is worth. (Before I am done writing, AZ has already pushed his disagree button. Lmfao.)

This is the wrong thread for it (2019 Prospects), but here was my synopsis immediately following the draft.

From another thread:
GUNS UP LET'S DO DIS

#1 Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma

I have long known I could convince myself to love him, and now that a few days have gone by, I’m down. Darnold was my boy. He still is my boy. I believe he’s going to be a very good player. That said, I think Baker Mayfield has a number of great traits that translate to the NFL and I’ve said as much throughout.

For starters, it’s going to take a special kind of personality to lead the Cleveland Browns out of the abyss. I’m talking about the fact that we are a complete post-apocalyptic wasteland and we need someone brimming and oozing confidence, self-belief, and leadership to shepard us through the storm. No matter what they say, this locker room has a case of the “here we go agains” when things start to go wrong in a game. We expect to lose. An ultra competitor is what’s needed. A culture changer is needed. No matter how he rubs you, Baker Mayfield is that guy. Much like Cleveland, he’s been mocked. Much like Cleveland, he’s a hard worker. Much like Cleveland, he has a chip on his shoulder. Much like Cleveland, he wants to prove all the doubters wrong. He embodies us.

In terms of talent, his arm is as accurate as I’ve ever seen. He throws great on the run, from the pocket, and can change arm angles to fit balls through lanes. In terms of arm talent, he’s very underrated. For as much as I hate the stat, his velocity of 60 mph at the combine was second only to Josh Allen of the quarterbacks. On tape, you see multiple throws travel 65 yards in the air with impressive trajectory. He’s just a natural thrower. Plenty of zip when he needs it, plenty of touch when the situation calls for it.

His two knocks are system and height. I don’t mind the height, he’s a stout guy and makes a habit of throwing through lanes. All QB’s at the next level throw and see through lanes and him being 6’2 wouldn’t change that. Dorsey isn’t concerned so neither am I.

The offense is a legit concern. That said, he has the tools and his recall and football IQ seem to be generational from all accounts. Thus, with a year to learn, I’m not worried.


#4 Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State

This pick was fantastic. Chubb/Ward, couldn’t have gone wrong here. I like grabbing the unanimous #1 corner of this draft. This was a case of taking their BPA, and I applaud it despite the noise.

He’s a tad undersized, but he makes up for it with elite athleticism and speed. His 5’11 height and 185 lb build would lead you to believe he’s a cover man who struggles in run support. If you guessed that, you’d be wrong.

This dude is very physical. He’s an outstanding tackler, he loves to mix it up, and he’s not backing down from anybody. In fact, he’s a big time hitter by corner standards. In terms of coverage, he’s elite. He was asked to lock down his man consistently in zero press man packages at Ohio State. As a result, he eliminated half the field.

It goes beyond the play with him, too. He’s highly intelligent as a football player, and his character is off the charts. He’s a great example of how to handle yourself away from the field. Humble and hard working. We found our #1 corner for the next ten years.


#33 Austin Corbett, LT, Nevada

Well, we went back to the Nevada well. This dude is so soft spoken off the field, but on the field, he’s straight up nasty. Watching his technique, balance, body control, and play strength, I have no doubts he could be a stud interior lineman. You can see that wrestling background when you watch him. He’s probably a better prospect than Joel Bitonio was coming out of school, which is saying something.

However, I really think that he’s juuuuust long enough and has solid enough feet to stay at left tackle. He was a 4-year starter there in college. We’ll see. This was a weak tackle class, and he was considered by many as a stout guard once he shifts inside. If he can stick on the outside, he’s a steal at #33. If he can’t, we can live with moving him inside to guard or center and having a solid 10-12 year career in the middle.

I went back and watched his tape of the 2015 Nevada game against Texas A&M and Myles Garrett. Remember, he's a sophomore starting tackle and it was likely an adjustment to the raw speed as Nevada had no way of replicating Garrett on the scout team. The dude was the #1 pick in the draft and "generational pass rushing talent" for a reason. In the very early stages, he gave up an ugly sack where Garrett straight up beat him on the outside with speed. This was the first offensive possession of the game.

After that, however, he adjusted and settled in and more than held his own. He got a little help at times, but he also had many one-on-one battles with Myles where he locked him out. Additionally, he absolutely pushed Garrett around in the run game. In the 2nd half, TAMU really started moving Garrett around. He had 1.5 sacks coming from playing inside away from Corbett. Then, he got Corbett one last time in the 4th on a 3rd and 19 on a deep drop. Certainly, he showed times where he struggled with Garrett's speed, but his footwork also improved from his sophomore to senior year. I'd be interested in seeing Round 2 in training camp.


#35 Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia

If you’re upset with Nick Chubb, you aren’t a football fan.

Sure, Sony Michel has that diverse skill set. However, at the top of the 2nd round, we picked up our AFC North back (to quote Hue).

Alonzo Highsmith compared him to Jamal Lewis. He compares himself to Frank Gore. Eliot Wolf raved over his balance and feet for his size. The combine showed how explosive and strong he is. From a freak standpoint, he’s probably #2 behind Saquon Barkley for his size. 4.52 forty, 38.5 inch vertical at 230 lbs, 29 bench reps... just crazy.

The difference from Barkley? He runs big. He doesn’t look to avoid the contact and get to the sideline. He looks to humiliate your entire family by running your ass over. He’s the definition of putting cleat marks up your chest when you see him enter the 2nd level.

He doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his agility or his hands. He has great vision, outstanding burst, and is going to be extremely productive in Cleveland. Further removed from his wicked knee injury, he’s back. I expect him and Duke to form the perfect tandem long term in Cleveland.

Guice is a great back, too, but with his maturity issues, I’m all aboard the Chubb train. Nick Chubb is a man of great character, a relentless work ethic, and an attitude that embodies what you want your football team to be. Little known fact, but Chubb comes from a farming family and was an agriculture major at Georgia. He’s blue collar and country strong.


#67 Chad Thomas, DE, Miami

I liked this pick. Would I have been behind Sam Hubbard, too? Sure. But it’s hard to argue with a man who can move like this at 6’5 280 pounds.

He’s strong against the run, but he’s a little predictable as a pass rusher. With a little development behind Ogbah and Garrett, I think adding to his repertoire will go a long way for him. After all, he hasn’t been playing this game very long.

He seems like a good kid and a willing worker. He’s also a guy who can kick inside in sub-packages.


#105 Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida

This pick was controversial. However, I love it. Absolutely love it. We are talking about a guy who was likely the WR1 or WR2 in this draft without the baggage.

He kind of reminds me of what we hoped Corey Coleman was going to be out of school. As a player, he’s explosive, he has strong hands, and plucks the ball out of the air. He’s a fantastic return man, and he’s a big play waiting to happen as soon as he touches the ball. He was the best thing about the Florida offense the two years he could see the field. He reminds me of Steve Smith. I know “undersized outside receiver, Steve Smith.” But no, it’s because he plays with fire on the field. He is soft-spoken off of it.

As a person, sure. We have concerns. However, there is no doubt that Dorsey and company spent a lot of time and resources vetting this situation. I trust him. By all accounts, the birth of his daughter has changed him and he speaks openly as a man who was a knucklehead and only has himself to blame. I think he’s hungry. This could be a huge boom from a 4th rounder.

He can play the X or the Z. Also, Dorsey has a history of successful gambles like this.


#150 Genard Avery, LB, Memphis

A self described “effort” player, that’s what pops off the page with him. He’s a guy in elite physical shape who is a force on the football field.

He’s going to be an outstanding special teams player, but has a shot to be much more than that.

He’s probably the best pash rushing inside backer in this draft outside of Evans. He’s a “see ball, get ball” guy, and I see him being able to play both the Mike and Sam here for us.

This is a guy who ran a 4.59 at the combine at 250 lbs. He’s a monster. But even better, in terms of work ethic and character, think the LB version of Larry Ogunjobi.


6th round duo Damion Ratley, WR, TAMU and Simeon Thomas, DB, Louisiana-Lafayette

With a filled-out roster and added veterans, these are classic “swing for the fences” style picks. I love that from Dorsey.

6th round picks are long shots to make the roster on decent football teams. We hope to become that. So, shoot your shot.

Dorsey took size, length, speed, SPARQ guys with question marks in hopes that NFL coaching makes them impact guys.

Ratley is a long burner as a receiver who was primarily a college deep threat. He has some size at 6’3.

Thomas is just under 6’4 as a DB and runs a 4.4. He’s a physical player on tape. He has questionable character, having been suspended multiple times in his career. I’m not sure if they see him as a corner or a safety, but this is a shot at an athlete.

Overall, I liked the draft. The more I get to chew on it, I like it more and more.

I think we took 5 guys who have a chance to be starters down the line (Mayfield, Ward, Corbett, Chubb, Callaway) and 2 guys who have a chance to be high-quality depth for years (Thomas, Avery).

We’ll have to wait a few years to judge, but this team definitely got better over the weekend.
 
That is so weak. Ughh, good comeback......
Have I heard that one before? WOW!!!!!!!! A ZINGER THERE.

You would think you would have a better response if you heard it a ton. My guess is you either dont care that hes a racist or cannot say anything to combat the fact hes a racist and just try to brush it to the side.

Josh Allen is a racist POS and I cannot wait to watch him fail. Which is likely considering he isn't accurate, football smart, and likes to point the blame at anyone but himself.
 
Well, this thread was interesting.
 
Great bit @Midwestcav

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Yeah, no point in talking about Allen in here. Take that to the other thread or how about not at all.

The thing going on w/Bosa is fucking dumb. Won't hurt his stock at all.
 
Yeah, no point in talking about Allen in here. Take that to the other thread or how about not at all.

The thing going on w/Bosa is fucking dumb. Won't hurt his stock at all.

Haven't heard. What?

Please don't tell me this is about his movie opinions?
 
Haven't heard. What?

Please don't tell me this is about his movie opinions?


Yep.

Mike Freeman tweeted about how Bosa said he thinks Black Panther is the worst Marvel movie, Beyonce is trash, and Kaep is a clown. And it turned into a huge thing about how he is going to fall in the draft. And now there's people clamoring that he is a racist. I mean, get the fuck out.
 

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