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Frank Clark to Chiefs. Price is a bit hefty but we are going for it. Just wonder how they can pay everyone.
 
Frank Clark to Chiefs. Price is a bit hefty but we are going for it. Just wonder how they can pay everyone.

I know Frank Clark and Dee Ford are different guys with somewhat different skill sets, but is the gap between those two worth a first round pick?

Looking beyond Ford, is the gap between Clark and Trey Flowers worth a 1st AND 2nd round pick?
 
I know Frank Clark and Dee Ford are different guys with somewhat different skill sets, but is the gap between those two worth a first round pick?

Looking beyond Ford, is the gap between Clark and Trey Flowers worth a 1st AND 2nd round pick?
Guess we will find out. But keep in mind Chiefs are changing their defensive scheme and got rid of Houston too.

It might be a bit of an overpay, but we are at least filling the gap and getting who we want. Clark is better than Ford and younger. We clearly didn't want to pay Ford. But man, did Clark ever get paid.
 
Clark is a true defensive lineman who is productive against the run and the pass as a defensive end as well as a three tech in different fronts. Dee Ford is a pass rush specialist who usually used speed and timing. He is not the well rounded talent on the field Clark has been.

I've been curious how Ford, more of an outside backer, is going to look on the Niners defensive line. They made that trade hours after they were shocked by the Odell trade. Bosa is so key to their offseason because they need a real 4-3 defensive end for the left side.
 
Pig Pen gets extended through 2021 (age 39 season.)

Here's hoping he weighs down the Stoolers with 2015-Peyton-Manning's-corpse level performance for at least some of that contract, with no corresponding GOAT-level defense to bail them out.

Also appears Justin Tucker to stay with the Ratbirds for 4 yrs at 20mm total.
 
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Read a snipped that there are reports indicating Dan Snyder is “taking over” for the first round.

I try not to be one to throw rocks from a glass house but, lol
 
I thought some of you guys would appreciate this thread.

View: https://twitter.com/CowboysStats/status/1121023648788361216

Don't you run into the issue that what may be true statistically for an entire set isn't true for every member of that set?

I'm just...hesitant about the conclusions we can draw from that kind of data because so much of it is situational. Passes to RB's may indeed get "worse results" than passes to anyone else, but what do you do with that information? Never pass to running backs? Sometimes, that's going to be the best play in a given situation because maybe that is all the defense is giving you.

It's kind of like the condemnation of the mid-range jumper in the NBA. Sure, it's not a great play statistically. But it's also rarely your first option, and guys end up taking those when the open three or dribble drive isn't there, and the clock is ticking.
 
Right, and the reason it likely gets the “worst results” is because it’s so much more likely to result in yardage loss as opposed to a simple downfield incompletion.

If you’re reading tight zone coverage and you throw into the flat anyway, that’s on you. Or, perhaps you have an average quarterback whom doesn’t have the arm nor the confidence to drive downfield and he has a maddening tendency to check down which skews the data.

I just think at the very least that needs to be more contextualized.
 
Don't you run into the issue that what may be true statistically for an entire set isn't true for every member of that set?

I'm just...hesitant about the conclusions we can draw from that kind of data because so much of it is situational. Passes to RB's may indeed get "worse results" than passes to anyone else, but what do you do with that information? Never pass to running backs? Sometimes, that's going to be the best play in a given situation because maybe that is all the defense is giving you.

It's kind of like the condemnation of the mid-range jumper in the NBA. Sure, it's not a great play statistically. But it's also rarely your first option, and guys end up taking those when the open three or dribble drive isn't there, and the clock is ticking.
Yeah, I mean, if you read the Twitter thread I don’t think the author disagrees with you.

Passes are worth more YPA than rushes. Interceptions and fumbles are equally likely. In a vacuum, passing makes more sense. But, we don’t live in a vacuum, and there are absolutely situations when running or a drop off to a RB makes more sense.

EX: Tom Brady is the best short yardage passer in NFL history. For him, having good pass catching RBs is absolutely crucial.

I just think this guy was referring, specifically, to the Cowboys. And I thought it was interesting data.

I’m excited about the Browns because Chubb was averaging ~5 yards per attempt and faces more full boxes than the grand majority of teams in the league. Given our offense now, though, my guess is that number decreases significantly. Chubb is one of a very small number of guys where running up the middle is a smart play.

I also think that, as defenses get faster and smaller, big power guys like Chubb, Zeke, Gurley, etc. will be increasingly valuable.
 

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