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Sir'Dominic Pointer - A Cleveland Cavalier

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Jiggo, I get that you're trying to be an equal-opportunity offender but you are conflating very different things.

You are absolutely correct that there is employment discrimination against people with unusual names. But you haven't dug deeper and understood why.

1. Studies (such as this one) show that the reason those with unusual African-American names have trouble getting employed is because of white racism, not the names themselves.

That same black person, had they been named, "John" wouldn't necessarily get hired, either. They would just get knocked out of consideration later in the process, perhaps at the in-person interview stage.


2. Further other studies also show that when you take people with "strange" names and then control for race, income, opportunity, networking connections, etc. that there is no evidence that a name in itself does any damage to employability.

It's not the name, it's the other factors, primarily racism and opportunity.

Your main thesis is simply wrong. What you are attributing to the name is actually attributable to racism, among other factors.

That last thing you'd want to argue is that society ought to bend toward the will of the racists. Rather, it should be the opposite: we should oppose and resist racism in all forms (including names) and not give in to it as "just the way things are."


There's a cutoff point with this though...and we're closing in on it rapidly. Now folks are just adding actual words onto the front of names...just to be different. Like what was wrong with naming him Dominic?! Where in the process did his mother say to herself "Dominic is a great name...I better make it fucking stupid real quick."

Soon there's gonna be a kid named Iieuejfjbd pronounced: Thomas
 
Sapastrophedip is a cool name.

When our daughter was born, the nurse told us of the story of a lady that named her kid Meconium, for those that dont know what it is, look it up, funny shit right there.
 
Let me also say this:

When it comes to name (and many other social conventions), society is in flux right now.

There is a temporary upswing in confusion, lack-of-acceptance, and even backlash as our society gets used to a wider variety of names.

There is no reason to think this is permanent. In fact, we know that it isn't and won't be permanent.

We are no more than a generation away from society being thoroughly used to and accepting of unique names. Whether it's women in the workforce, gays allowed to be open, or even just the ubiquity of tattoos, things that were once rare, even verboten, are now common and cause fewer and fewer people to react.

[Basketball insert for thread-relevance: remember when Alan Iverson was a thug because of his tats and cornrows? How many players have the same amount of tats and/or cornrows today and no one -- not even conservative whitey -- bats an eye or assumes that person must be a "thug?"]

There isn't a long-term problem here. There's only people's own personal, highly subjective, preferences.

I think we can all agree -- Jig himself most strenuously -- that no society should ever use his personal tastes as the arbiter of what is right, normal, or should be.
 
I think we can all agree -- Jig himself most strenuously -- that no society should ever use his personal tastes as the arbiter of what is right, normal, or should be.

Your name tells me that you're going to be biased on this topic. S'DP is probably your brother, for all we know.

Your argument is invalid, Sir'John.
 
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One of the greatest names in all of sports history. Up there with Jack Youngblood and Paul Warfield.

Too bad he sucked.
 


From his Wikipedia page: His youngest, Lawyer Tillman Jr., is a junior at Auburn University and plays running-back.

This is the slippery slope we're talking about @Sir John

If that kid ever wants to become a lawyer, the top of his resume will read: Lawyer Tillman Jr. J.D.

Would you hire that guy!? You'd think he's trolling.
 
When our daughter was born, the nurse told us of the story of a lady that named her kid Meconium, for those that dont know what it is, look it up, funny shit right there.
When my dad was working at a hospital in Philladelphia a women had twins and named them "Twina" and "Twinb". For those that don't know, when you give birth to twin, the hospital uses the phrases "Twin A" and "Twin B" to separate the babies. This woman thought that the hospital named her kids...
 
When my dad was working at a hospital in Philladelphia a women had twins and named them "Twina" and "Twinb". For those that don't know, when you give birth to twin, the hospital uses the phrases "Twin A" and "Twin B" to separate the babies. This woman thought that the hospital named her kids...

I'm gonna have to step in here as impressed as I've been by your recent emergence in OTEAYOR.

There are a LOT of these stories about black/WT women thinking the hospital named their kids. To date, I don't think I've ever seen one that was backed up with whitepages.com or any other online searches.

No offense to your dad, who was probably just repeating a funny urban legend, but this is 99% likely to be another urban legend.
 
I'm gonna have to step in here as impressed as I've been by your recent emergence in OTEAYOR.

There are a LOT of these stories about black/WT women thinking the hospital named their kids. To date, I don't think I've ever seen one that was backed up with whitepages.com or any other online searches.

No offense to your dad, who was probably just repeating a funny urban legend, but this is 99% likely to be another urban legend.
Per Whitepages I could be correct. You very well could be correct, though.

http://names.whitepages.com/first/Twinna
 
When my dad was working at a hospital in Philladelphia a women had twins and named them "Twina" and "Twinb". For those that don't know, when you give birth to twin, the hospital uses the phrases "Twin A" and "Twin B" to separate the babies. This woman thought that the hospital named her kids...

Dejuan and DeottaJuan?
 
Imagine having a discussion with Sir'Dominic and his sister Miz'Unique.
Someone disagreed with this statement. I couldn't give two shits about the disagree button, but I'm bewildered but how one could disagree with this post.
 
Someone disagreed with this statement. I couldn't give two shits about the disagree button, but I'm bewildered but how one could disagree with this post.

Was it @red. ? He disagrees with everything.

If anyone that disagreed with me scanned your post and felt you were supporting my supposedly racist and ignorant opinions, they probably would have docked you as well.
 

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