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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
No one is trading the #1 pick.
No one is trading the #1 pick.
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A Closer Look at Anthony ^--^ Davis
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
Actually, my proposed trade is fine and within the nba trade rules as far as I know. Why would the Cavs be retarded to offer 3 first round picks +assets for someone who may end up becoming the best in the nba? People have to start coming to terms with the fact that mid to late first round picks generally do not turn into allstars. There is a good chance that our 2013 pick and LAL pick will yield role players only. Trading our #7 pick, TT, and 2 role players for Anthony Davis seems like a fair trade for both teams. How would you feel about having Anthony Davis and Kyrie as the cornerstones of our rebuild? In a few years, we would have 2 of the top 5 players in the game. I think that is worth giving up role players, TT, and our pick for. Not to mention we still have lots of other picks to work with and our salary situation is completely under control for years to come.
Actually, my proposed trade is fine and within the nba trade rules as far as I know. Why would the Cavs be retarded to offer 3 first round picks +assets for someone who may end up becoming the best in the nba? People have to start coming to terms with the fact that mid to late first round picks generally do not turn into allstars. There is a good chance that our 2013 pick and LAL pick will yield role players only. Trading our #7 pick, TT, and 2 role players for Anthony Davis seems like a fair trade for both teams. How would you feel about having Anthony Davis and Kyrie as the cornerstones of our rebuild? In a few years, we would have 2 of the top 5 players in the game. I think that is worth giving up role players, TT, and our pick for. Not to mention we still have lots of other picks to work with and our salary situation is completely under control for years to come.
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
We're talking about a kid that averages 14 and 10, with almost 5 blocks a game and shoots 63% from the floor. Oh yeah, and he does it for the number 1 team in the country that is boasting potentially the number 1&2 picks in the upcoming draft and the other 3 starters are all first rounders. Most can agree he will be an elite defender and shot blocker, who will surely be a D.P.O.Y candidate for the next decade. Now, coming out of high school all the reports said that he is still getting used to his growth spurt, because he was like 6'1" or whatever in high school until I think his junior year. So, despite his size he only knew how to play guard. Now, he is thrown into Kentucky asked to play a lot of PF/C and I think he's learning pretty well on the fly, wouldn't you say? Also, since his coach gave him the green light to expand his range in games, he has shown the ability to hit the 3 and long two's - even though he clearly still needs time to keep developing that shot. Now, while I definitely see the KG comparison on D, do I believe the "Kevin Durant potential" on offense some scouts see? No. But that doesn't mean he won't be terrific or at least very efficient on offense once he gets his touch back and used to his still-new body. Imagine developing a hook shot with those long arms?
We tend to overall value players/assets on our team because we cheer for the Cavs. We think, "Why wouldn't they accept that trade," but we need to put ourselves in the shoes of other teams. I mean seriously, if CHA got the #1 pick, how could they turn down a Biyombo/Davis tandem for the next 10 years. NO ONE would score in the paint, it'd be ridiculous. Fact is, as many have said, unless you throw the whole kitchen sink at a GM, we aren't getting Davis unless we have the #1 pick, or he wakes up tomorrow and is back to 6'1". Now, yes if we had the 2 or 3 pick it could be more "possible," but at that point why not just make your play for MKG and save the tons of assets you would have to trade for Davis.
We're talking about a kid that averages 14 and 10, with almost 5 blocks a game and shoots 63% from the floor. Oh yeah, and he does it for the number 1 team in the country that is boasting potentially the number 1&2 picks in the upcoming draft and the other 3 starters are all first rounders. Most can agree he will be an elite defender and shot blocker, who will surely be a D.P.O.Y candidate for the next decade. Now, coming out of high school all the reports said that he is still getting used to his growth spurt, because he was like 6'1" or whatever in high school until I think his junior year. So, despite his size he only knew how to play guard. Now, he is thrown into Kentucky asked to play a lot of PF/C and I think he's learning pretty well on the fly, wouldn't you say? Also, since his coach gave him the green light to expand his range in games, he has shown the ability to hit the 3 and long two's - even though he clearly still needs time to keep developing that shot. Now, while I definitely see the KG comparison on D, do I believe the "Kevin Durant potential" on offense some scouts see? No. But that doesn't mean he won't be terrific or at least very efficient on offense once he gets his touch back and used to his still-new body. Imagine developing a hook shot with those long arms?
We tend to overall value players/assets on our team because we cheer for the Cavs. We think, "Why wouldn't they accept that trade," but we need to put ourselves in the shoes of other teams. I mean seriously, if CHA got the #1 pick, how could they turn down a Biyombo/Davis tandem for the next 10 years. NO ONE would score in the paint, it'd be ridiculous. Fact is, as many have said, unless you throw the whole kitchen sink at a GM, we aren't getting Davis unless we have the #1 pick, or he wakes up tomorrow and is back to 6'1". Now, yes if we had the 2 or 3 pick it could be more "possible," but at that point why not just make your play for MKG and save the tons of assets you would have to trade for Davis.
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
MKG would be much easier to trade up for, although it's still unlikely. But since we'll end up with between the 4th and 8th worst record, getting the2nd or 3rd pick is really not that hard to imagine.
Also, if we ended up with Drummond, I'm not sure I'd even try that hard to trade up. To me, the chance to draft a potential superstar trumps drafting a likely 'good' to 'very good' player like Beal.
MKG would be much easier to trade up for, although it's still unlikely. But since we'll end up with between the 4th and 8th worst record, getting the2nd or 3rd pick is really not that hard to imagine.
Also, if we ended up with Drummond, I'm not sure I'd even try that hard to trade up. To me, the chance to draft a potential superstar trumps drafting a likely 'good' to 'very good' player like Beal.
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
You're making a lot of assumptions here.
Either way, people need to stop entertaining the idea of trading for the #1 pick. It's just not going to happen.
You're making a lot of assumptions here.
Either way, people need to stop entertaining the idea of trading for the #1 pick. It's just not going to happen.
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
Seems a lot more like Marcus Camby then Kenyon Martin. Hard to compare eras as freshman play a lot more minutes and the college game is diluted due to early entry compared to when Camby was playing. Similar type of games and body frames though
Seems a lot more like Marcus Camby then Kenyon Martin. Hard to compare eras as freshman play a lot more minutes and the college game is diluted due to early entry compared to when Camby was playing. Similar type of games and body frames though
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
I dont think the cavs would pass up drummond, unless ther psych testing showed some serious red flags. he cavs did quite intensive psych profiling during the last draft
I dont think the cavs would pass up drummond, unless ther psych testing showed some serious red flags. he cavs did quite intensive psych profiling during the last draft
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Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis
Any draft pick is a "maybe" The college game and the pro game are different beasts. Sure, every so often you see a guy with great size develop. Plenty of times...no... most times, the player doesn't. Everybody is saying "how can you judge his offensive game when he doesn't have to be a scorer on his team." Are you kidding me? If he is a prolific scorer, they give him the ball. If he is a pretty good scorer, they give me the ball. You take the highest percentage shot, if they think he can make the shots, they give it to him. No, he gets about 9 shots a game, mostly around the rim. Yes, he is athletic. Yes, he can defend with the best of them. Yes, he will PROBABLY be a great NBA player. Yes, you could offer up all over your picks and a team may give you the top pick and he ends up being an all-star, or even a superstar.
..but, what if he doesn't?
Answer: You end up like Portland...
Any draft pick is a "maybe" The college game and the pro game are different beasts. Sure, every so often you see a guy with great size develop. Plenty of times...no... most times, the player doesn't. Everybody is saying "how can you judge his offensive game when he doesn't have to be a scorer on his team." Are you kidding me? If he is a prolific scorer, they give him the ball. If he is a pretty good scorer, they give me the ball. You take the highest percentage shot, if they think he can make the shots, they give it to him. No, he gets about 9 shots a game, mostly around the rim. Yes, he is athletic. Yes, he can defend with the best of them. Yes, he will PROBABLY be a great NBA player. Yes, you could offer up all over your picks and a team may give you the top pick and he ends up being an all-star, or even a superstar.
..but, what if he doesn't?
Answer: You end up like Portland...