A Closer Look at Anthony ^--^ Davis

[Derek]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

I'm a Kansas fan, borderline homer, and have been pimping Robinson for months... and not even I would go that far. Davis is far and away better than Robinson, as much as I like him. Davis is just better, and he has more potential.

Right now, Thomas has the better stats. He's also shouldering the load of an entire team in to the Final Four, and we have a better chance getting him than Davis. Since Kentucky is so stacked, most of what people say about Davis is based on what they believe his ceiling is(which apparently there isn't one.) Maybe Thomas doesn't have as much potential as Anthony. But he can ball, and he's built. All this aside, I stick by my original statement. WHYYY aren't we focusing on the positions that we don't have long-term solutions at(C, SG, SF...in that order)?

 

[Triumph36]

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Right now, Thomas has the better stats. He's also shouldering the load of an entire team in to the Final Four, and we have a better chance getting him than Davis. Since Kentucky is so stacked, most of what people say about Davis is based on what they believe his ceiling is(which apparently there isn't one.) Maybe Thomas doesn't have as much potential as Anthony. But he can ball, and he's built. All this aside, I stick by my original statement. WHYYY aren't we focusing on the positions that we don't have long-term solutions at(C, SG, SF...in that order)?

You said Thomas has better stats and then go on to say he is shouldering the load of an entire team. Really? Hm. Maybe those two are related. Maybe the fact that he isn't surrounded by lottery picks gets him....better stats? Nah, that sounds too strange. If Davis were legit he'd be averaging 20/10 easily, f those other lottery picks playing next to him amirite?

And calling Thompson a long-term solution at PF is beyond premature.

and lol @ citing Portland as a bad outcome when they actually built a great team but ended up running into an unreal amount of serious injuries.

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Say our pick this year is number 7. I think a team would really stop and consider if we offered our 2012 first (#7), 2013 first, LAL 2012 1st & TT.

i'm not sure the team would give it much consideration tbh.

though if beal/gilchrist/drummond are all off the board by #7 (very likely, obv) and the 2013 pick has decent protection (top 5?) i'd do it.

 

[Silky Smooth]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Finally used the ignore button because I was sick of seeing someone's negative comments all the time. Other than that Anthony Davis will be a beast. Enough said.

 

[TitleTown]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

I don't understand why we continue to argue about top 3 talent. We aren't getting a top 3 pick.

 

[tristan+kyrie=$]

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I dont know why people are writing off the Cavs getting a top 3 pick...Did anyone see how bad they looked against Phoenix and with Jamison wearing down it seems, it's not going to get much better especially with the condensed schedule the Cavs experience starting this week through the rest of the year. I expect the Cavs to finish with the 4th best odds and get a top 3 pick. Just a hunch though

 

[Triumph36]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

I dont know why people are writing off the Cavs getting a top 3 pick...Did anyone see how bad they looked against Phoenix and with Jamison wearing down it seems, it's not going to get much better especially with the condensed schedule the Cavs experience starting this week through the rest of the year. I expect the Cavs to finish with the 4th best odds and get a top 3 pick. Just a hunch though

It has less to do with the cavs being awful (they are) than it does the bottom teams (plural, unfortunately) being so much worse.

your prediction is pretty much the best case scenario in terms of finish. 4th obviously isn't bad but still, the odds to get gilchrist or davis wouldn't be in the cavs favor. with lopez being out for another 2 weeks iirc i'm not expecting the nets to climb much further tho.

 

[tristan+kyrie=$]

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Agreed I understand that. I just feel Stern still has one more surprise in store for Cleveland

It has less to do with the cavs being awful (they are) than it does the bottom teams (plural, unfortunately) being so much worse.

your prediction is pretty much the best case scenario in terms of finish. 4th obviously isn't bad but still, the odds to get gilchrist or davis wouldn't be in the cavs favor.

 

[Jon]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

I dont know why people are writing off the Cavs getting a top 3 pick...Did anyone see how bad they looked against Phoenix and with Jamison wearing down it seems, it's not going to get much better especially with the condensed schedule the Cavs experience starting this week through the rest of the year. I expect the Cavs to finish with the 4th best odds and get a top 3 pick. Just a hunch though

The way the Suns are playing right now, they'd make any of the teams worse us in the standings look just as silly, and while the stretch run may get tough on us, it gets tough on other teams as well. The quality of the teams we face is not especially high: mostly lower level Eastern teams.

We could in theory move down to the 5th worst record, but we've been locked in to the #8 spot for a long time now and don't seem to be budging. Andy's return will likely cement us there.

 

[Pyro]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Agreed I understand that. I just feel Stern still has one more surprise in store for Cleveland

Oh, you mean like rigging the draft?

 

[col63onel]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Personally, I think Davis has too much of a uni-brow to be a star

 

[Rich]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Gonna say something that people will hate, but that's ok.

If I were Chris Grant, I'd offer Kyrie Irving straight up for the number 1 pick (and only Kyrie, wouldn't throw in a pick or anything). The reason is this: Centers are so rare and valuable that when a chance comes along to snatch up a true franchise C, you have to take it. Furthermore, as good as Kyrie can be, I think Davis can be better.

Now is it a risk? Sure. But I think it's the same type of risk the Colts just took by releasing Peyton Manning with the plan of drafting Andrew Luck. Luck LOOKS like a can't miss prospect, but he can still miss.

That said, Grant will never do this and even if he did I'm not thinking there are to many teams that would take the deal anyway. Only way is if a team that already has a franchise C gets the number 1 pick. But, that team doesn't exist so I don't see a team trading away that pick, even for Kyrie Irving.

 

[ohiorulez]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Gonna say something that people will hate, but that's ok.

If I were Chris Grant, I'd offer Kyrie Irving straight up for the number 1 pick (and only Kyrie, wouldn't throw in a pick or anything). The reason is this: Centers are so rare and valuable that when a chance comes along to snatch up a true franchise C, you have to take it. Furthermore, as good as Kyrie can be, I think Davis can be better.

Now is it a risk? Sure. But I think it's the same type of risk the Colts just took by releasing Peyton Manning with the plan of drafting Andrew Luck. Luck LOOKS like a can't miss prospect, but he can still miss.

That said, Grant will never do this and even if he did I'm not thinking there are to many teams that would take the deal anyway. Only way is if a team that already has a franchise C gets the number 1 pick. But, that team doesn't exist so I don't see a team trading away that pick, even for Kyrie Irving.

You just dont trade a guy like Irving. You just dont do that. You dont trade your 1st round, 1st pick guy, 1 year later. Enough said.

 

[Chris]

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I'm all about making ballsy moves and shit, but I would not even consider trading Irving in that deal. At best, you're replacing a surefire stud with a stud at a harder to fill position. At worst, you're blowing up our franchise. No thanks.

 

[YuenglingGator]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Gonna say something that people will hate, but that's ok.

If I were Chris Grant, I'd offer Kyrie Irving straight up for the number 1 pick (and only Kyrie, wouldn't throw in a pick or anything). The reason is this: Centers are so rare and valuable that when a chance comes along to snatch up a true franchise C, you have to take it. Furthermore, as good as Kyrie can be, I think Davis can be better.

Now is it a risk? Sure. But I think it's the same type of risk the Colts just took by releasing Peyton Manning with the plan of drafting Andrew Luck. Luck LOOKS like a can't miss prospect, but he can still miss.

That said, Grant will never do this and even if he did I'm not thinking there are to many teams that would take the deal anyway. Only way is if a team that already has a franchise C gets the number 1 pick. But, that team doesn't exist so I don't see a team trading away that pick, even for Kyrie Irving.

It is nowhere near the same risk. Peyton is what, 36? And yes, there is risk involved in letting go the player you built your franchise around for like 15 years, but it is nowhere near the same as cutting ties with this #1 pick a year ago, ROY, and has superstar written all over him. A better comparison would be the Colts trading Cam Newton for Luck. Newton will be a star, did things other rookies for his position never have done before, won ROY, all these things Irving is doing. But since Luck is the most hyped player in awhile, similar to Davis, they trade Newton for him. IDK that I would do that, since Newton is proven. Just like I wouldn't trade Kyrie for Davis. JMO

 

[NewOrlnsDukie]

Re: A Closer Look at Anthony Davis

Gonna say something that people will hate, but that's ok.

If I were Chris Grant, I'd offer Kyrie Irving straight up for the number 1 pick (and only Kyrie, wouldn't throw in a pick or anything). The reason is this: Centers are so rare and valuable that when a chance comes along to snatch up a true franchise C, you have to take it. Furthermore, as good as Kyrie can be, I think Davis can be better.

Now is it a risk? Sure. But I think it's the same type of risk the Colts just took by releasing Peyton Manning with the plan of drafting Andrew Luck. Luck LOOKS like a can't miss prospect, but he can still miss.

That said, Grant will never do this and even if he did I'm not thinking there are to many teams that would take the deal anyway. Only way is if a team that already has a franchise C gets the number 1 pick. But, that team doesn't exist so I don't see a team trading away that pick, even for Kyrie Irving.

lol?