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A closer look at Harrison Barnes

Discussion in 'Cavs Talk' started by Simon, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. narbar32

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    I'm still not sold on Barnes but I'm intrigued by April Nonato's ball-handling.
     
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    This is the first time I've seen them pick an overrated list BEFORE the season starts, so it should be very interesting to see if they do know anything. Its easier to pick underrated players and if one hits (Lin) be able to say you were right, but all of these players will get drafted early and we'll be able to see how they perform.
     
  4. Jon

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    They do have a point though, most of these guys we're drooling over have crappy %'s.
     
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    Douglar Intentionally Grounded Staff Member

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    2012 NBA Draft - Workout buzz on top prospects - ESPN

     
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    No, I refuse to believe the Cavs would take Barnes over MKG. Refuse to believe it. Absolutely will not believe that will happen.
     
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    If they're both there we're going MKG. If not...let's not think about that.
     
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    I don't know why more prognosticators don't talk about Harrison Barnes to the Wizards. He cancelled with the Kings directly after his Washington workout. Barnes' reps reportedly want to angle him toward a bigger market. And he provides many of the same things the Wizards need from Beal but with much more size.
     
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    Because the Wizards are focused on Beal then MKG. Barnes is not going there.
     
  10. Pioneer10

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    Yeah it would be odd to take Barnes when you just traded for Ariza. Add in that they drafted Vesely last year who is a tweener and SF is not something I see them trying to shore up.
     
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    2012 NBA draft -- Harrison Barnes latest to work out for Charlotte Bobcats - ESPN

     
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    Grant has an elite poker face, that's all I know right now.
     
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    tedginnjr What's your Damage?

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    Chad Ford now with Barnes going to us at #4. Uh oh.
     
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    Pretty sure he's had that in most of his mocks.
     
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    barnes is a solid pick for cleveland at 4.. he can shoot and can play defense..
     
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    This is a good observation; some are wondering about Barnes and Washington. See this Wizards' blog, for instance:

    Truth About It » Wizards 2012 Draft Plan B Might Rest In Michael Jordan’s Hands

    The assumption is Beal is the target if he is there, but if not, Barnes is felt to be just as likely as, and maybe a better fit than, MKG. Just fan speculation, not a rumor or anything.
     
  17. Gimme Some Mo

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    42 FG%
    34 3P%
    72 FT%

    These whopping %'s came while playing with 2 big men that will be drafted top 15 and the best PG in the nation last season..... All while having a size advantage against mostly everyone he played against.

    Not impressed.


    Beal shot 2% higher from the field (same from 3), and 5% better from the line all while being a freshman playing against guys bigger than him (played SF most of the year) and having no legit NBA talent surrounding him as well as two ball-hogging chuckers playing PG and SG.
     
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    Barnes is arguably a better fit than MKG with Ariza there since Barnes at least does provide them with a better shooter. Someone has said that Ariza can play SG. This is of course technically true (it's presumably the position he would have played for Cleveland when the Cavs tried to sign him back in 2009), but per 82games, he played most of his minutes last year at SF, and played much better there than at SG.

    That said, the Washington trade for Ariza/Okafor signals, at least for me, that the Wizards really want to win now. This view has been echoed recently by the Wash Post:

    Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza do not help the Wizards’ long-term plans - The Washington Post

    Ernie Grunfeld seems finally to be getting some pressure, and he clearly wants to "win" now. It's not outside the realm of possibility that if Charlotte does decide to go with Beal at 2, Washington will go with Barnes at 3.
     
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    And these incremental differences mean what come October when both of these guys are in the NBA?

    Pretty much nothing.

    It's a universal opinion that Barnes and Beal are pretty much both shooters who are at the top of this class. The incremental differences in their shooting percentages in college is really what's separating them talent wise?

    Eh, not sure I buy that.
     
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    Yeah, both guys are good. Hopefully the Cavs get 1 of them if they go the "scorer" route.
     
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