• Changing RCF's index page, please click on "Forums" to access the forums.

A closer look at Harrison Barnes

Do Not Sell My Personal Information
You know the messed up part about all of this is that we could have had Barnes last year if the idiot would have entered the draft. At 4 in last years draft I would have been happy with him, and then with 4 in this years draft we would have been free to draft TRob which would have made me a happy camper. However if we draft TRob this year it will do nothing but piss most of us off. Barnes really screwed us with his decision imo.
 
If both MKG and Beal are gone, I think we are better trading our pick and trying to take a Lamb/Miller combo than picking Barnes
 
If both MKG and Beal are gone, I think we are better trading our pick and trying to take a Lamb/Miller combo than picking Barnes

Though I like Barnes, I strongly agree. Draft Jeremy Lamb and then Perry Jones III/Terrence Jones or maybe take a look at Meyers Leonard. Moultrie, Harkless, Wroten, Fournier or Doron Lamb (if we don't take Jeremy Lamb) are all options for me at 24.
 
Drafting Barnes at 4 will get Grant fired within a few years. Guaransheed it.
 
You know the messed up part about all of this is that we could have had Barnes last year if the idiot would have entered the draft. At 4 in last years draft I would have been happy with him, and then with 4 in this years draft we would have been free to draft TRob which would have made me a happy camper. However if we draft TRob this year it will do nothing but piss most of us off. Barnes really screwed us with his decision imo.

eh...we would have no KI though. It worked out the way it should...thank god.
 
eh...we would have no KI though. It worked out the way it should...thank god.

Based off what he is saying, we would have no Tristan Thompson. Would have drafted Irving at 1 and Barnes at 4, although I doubt he would have lasted to 4 last year.

But I was thinking the same thing mdog. Irving, Barnes, and Robinson would be nice, but I think Thompson has a bright future so we will be just fine.
 
Jim (Cleveland) Does Harrison Barnes make most sense at #4 for Cleveland and if so, what's his ceiling? I feel like he is vastly overrated.

John Hollinger (12:42 PM) I share your concern; I think he's a wing jump shooter with size, but I don't think he has great instincts as a scorer or finisher. There are other 3s I like better, particularly Quincy Miller; I think everybody is completely sleeping on that kid.

Ben (Minneapolis) Harrison Barnes reminds me of Rashard Lewis. Fair?

John Hollinger (12:44 PM) More like Martell Webster to me.

No disrespect to douglar but let's not forget scouts can completely miss on some players. They don't know for certain what Barnes will be in 3 years. No one does.
 
Based off what he is saying, we would have no Tristan Thompson. Would have drafted Irving at 1 and Barnes at 4, although I doubt he would have lasted to 4 last year.

But I was thinking the same thing mdog. Irving, Barnes, and Robinson would be nice, but I think Thompson has a bright future so we will be just fine.

ahhh my bad. good point. Though i doubt barnes goes 4 in last years draft. Guess we have to trust that CG and DG know what they're doing. Ginobli was drafted 57th...just shows that the right guys + right system = winning. gotta get good fits.
 
John Hollinger (12:44 PM) More like Martell Webster to me.

:lol:

While, I don't think his that bad, if we draft and thats what he turns into, it will set back our rebuild at least 2 years.
 
Seeing as it is one player, logically, one could deduce it would set us back 1 year...

But that isn't even true. It would just place a higher importance on the other 3 picks to hit.

Exaggeration.
 
Seeing as it is one player, logically, one could deduce it would set us back 1 year...

But that isn't even true. It would just place a higher importance on the other 3 picks to hit.

Exaggeration.
He (maybe) exaggerated a bit but what you said isn't correct either. Picks in the 20++ range are most certainly not going to make up for drafting a bust at #4.

If Barnes were that bad, it'd set the rebuild back a year at the minimum and I'm not really sure how anyone who is being honest with themselves could argue otherwise.
 
I think Barnes has more potential as an NBA scorer than a lot of people think. He may not be that great off the dribble, but he can fill it up in multiple ways BESIDES just spot-up shooting.

If Beal and Gilchrist are off the board and Andre Drummond's cell-phone goes off during his interview and Christ Grant hears a loud teletubby ringtone while Drummond shakes his head to the jingle, I would draft Barnes over Jeremy Lamb.
 
You know the messed up part about all of this is that we could have had Barnes last year if the idiot would have entered the draft. At 4 in last years draft I would have been happy with him, and then with 4 in this years draft we would have been free to draft TRob which would have made me a happy camper. However if we draft TRob this year it will do nothing but piss most of us off. Barnes really screwed us with his decision imo.

:chuckles::lol:
I'm sorry I really have to laugh at that ..idiot Barnes..:chuckles:
 
:lol:

While, I don't think his that bad, if we draft and thats what he turns into, it will set back our rebuild at least 2 years.

Can people stop saying this? From where I'm standing, drafting a potential star and them turning out to be a role player or a scrub doesn't by any means cause us to be "set back 2 years" or "a decade" as some people are saying...If Barnes or Drummond don't turn out to be the stud you hope they will, they'll probably still be a starter, and we'll likely be at the same level of suck next yaer that we were this year, or worse if we lose more vets, and will be drafting high again next year.

There are no sure things in this draft, and you don't get anywhere by not taking risks. Whoever we take with our first pick will have substantial risk attached to them.
 
Can people stop saying this? From where I'm standing, drafting a potential star and them turning out to be a role player or a scrub doesn't by any means cause us to be "set back 2 years" or "a decade" as some people are saying...If Barnes or Drummond don't turn out to be the stud you hope they will, they'll probably still be a starter, and we'll likely be at the same level of suck next yaer that we were this year, or worse if we lose more vets, and will be drafting high again next year.

There are no sure things in this draft, and you don't get anywhere by not taking risks. Whoever we take with our first pick will have substantial risk attached to them.
but it's not just next year. even if barnes/beal/drummond/etc aren't a bust, the cavs will be drafting pretty damn high next year.

it's that they missed out on a much needed star player. in that sense then yes, it will set them back at least a year or two because they'll still need said star player. next year likely won't make up for that because they'll need close to a star player then, too.
 

Rubber Rim Job Podcast Video

Episode 3-13: "Backup Bash Brothers"

Rubber Rim Job Podcast Spotify

Episode 3:11: "Clipping Bucks."
Top