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The Cavs vs Bulls Series

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Depth in the playoffs is severely over-rated. We had deep teams before LBJ left, but we lacked the top-heavy talent necessary to win championships.


7 Quality guys and two wild-cards who can do at least one thing decently and soak a few minutes here and there. You can win a title with that formula. In-fact, that's how it's usually done.

This. So much this.

And the Cavs have a magnificent 7 at the moment (pun intended).

The starters, Shump, and TT. Yeah, I'll go to battle with that group.
 
Chicago in a tight game with Philly. Hopefully they lose, and we start to really pull away from Chicago and Toronto in the standings.
 
Wow, Bulls board stupidity reaching new, UNKNOWN dimensions! :chuckle:

- "No amount of talent can overcome LeBron aging another year.

Its over.

Unless Kyrie takes a big step into MVP level conversation, LeBron is not winning another ring after this season. This is THE season for the Cavs."


What did I just read? HELP!
So for Chicago, it's ok to have an often-injured, bad playing Rose, because their team is still very well balanced (which is true of course).

But as soon as James starts to decline a little, it's THE season for the Cavs? Even if playing with two superstars for the foreseeable future? Yeah, ok...

- "You have to also account for the fact that Love and Kyrie are both under-sized/at par SIZE for their positions. This makes shot-making a tougher skill year-over-year. More teams will just put a jumbo defender on Kyrie, thus effectively moving ball-handling, creating pressure on LeBron again - especially in the playoffs."

Ehm, so that would be a bad thing for us because...?
Am I missing something right here?

- "Here's 20 players that are better than Love next season:

PG's : Kyrie, Wall, Rose, Westbrook, Paul, Lillard, Curry
SG's: Jimmy, Harden, Kawahi, Klay
SF's: LeBron, George, Durant
PF's: Bosh, Anthony Davis, Aldridge, Blake
C's: Cousins, Marc Gasol

Thats 20...and thats without guys like Noah, Horford, Melo, Lowry ...all of whom can legitimately fill in the Top 25."

Wow, so he can already come to this conclusion at this point in the season? Without counting in one single playoff game? Props to his Nostradamus abilities.

The bolded part is just laughable...

- LeBron WILL decline next season. That is not debatable.

"How much?" is debatable.

I contend that his ELITE skills - athleticism and defense will become non-ELITE. Still great, but not ELITE. This is actually true of this season as well. He is NOT elite in those 2 areas.

Also, teams with more talent than the Cavs this season:

Bulls
Grizzlies
Clippers
Spurs


-There's just way TOO many variables stacked against Cleveland. That and they gave away a bunch of picks.

We have none of those constraints. Our one constraint is health. Which doesnt look to be an issue this post-season. And which is also a factor for Cleveland ( Varejao's injury cost them 2 first round picks).


- Trust me on this...from a salary perspective we are WAY better positioned than Cleveland is. I wish I could magically transport you to my spreadsheet so I can show it.

And from a team talent perspective, we are way better than the Cavs.

Cavs have to keep on trading salary for salary and hope every trade works out for them. We have PICKS! Plural. With Sactown's pick next in the 2016 draft cycle.


And there is NO ONE on the Cavs roster who can give them what a Niko is gonna give us for years to come. And I am not even looking at Doug - who I think will be a flat out baller.

Our oldest player is better than their oldest player....our youngest prospects are better than their youngest prospects.


ANY WAY you dice it, we have a better outlook than them.


If Love and/or LeBron leave next year...or opt out.....
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Cleveland goes back to having to overpay for mediocre talent.



Ok guys, I'm going to stop right here.
I know it already has become very hard to read.
I don't know what to say anymore to the bolded parts in the last paragraph.

Just wanted to show you some very, VERY, delusional posts. Apparently, that's how some Bulls fans feel over there. I know it's crazy, but you gotta admit, it put some smiles upon your face as well! :chuckle:
 
I don't know what they're having, but I'll take some.
 
I like how they mentioned that Sactown pick we have them. That was the most heavily protected garbage I've ever seen. :chuckle: I didn't care at all when we gave it up.
 
Got to laugh at the Bull's fans. We will destroy these in the play offs if we meet, they are Lebron's bitch's.
 
I like how they mentioned that Sactown pick we have them. That was the most heavily protected garbage I've ever seen. :chuckle: I didn't care at all when we gave it up.
It wasn't all that protected (lottery protected in 2012, top 13 in 2013, top 12 in 2014, top 10 in years 2015-2017), they're just so historically inept and therefore will give that up as a 2nd round pick in 2017. Funny that Bulls fans think it will be anything but a 2nd rounder. The Kings' organization is a disaster.
 
It wasn't all that protected (lottery protected in 2012, top 13 in 2013, top 12 in 2014, top 10 in years 2015-2017), they're just so historically inept and therefore will give that up as a 2nd round pick in 2017. Funny that Bulls fans think it will be anything but a 2nd rounder. The Kings' organization is a disaster.
Sorry that's what I meant. It was obvious that pick was never going to be anything but a second round pick yet I see Bulls fans bring it up all the time as if it's some great asset. :chuckle:
 
I think LeBron will come back rested and stronger next year. Too many distractions to start with this year.
 
He's also completely ignoring the fact that our roster only has 4 players from last season on it. That we'll be seeing the effects of "familiarity" causing major improvements next season. We should be better, not worse, then this year. In fact, at the start of the year, I felt this was really the preparatory season for our championship runs. I wasn't expecting us to have any real shot this season. But, with the mid season moves, I can see us with as good a chance as any one.

Something else he is conveniently forgetting is that Gasol and Noah will both be a year older. Plus, the Bulls core hasn't exactly been the modicum of healthy, either. He's wearing a fancy pair of rose colored glasses when he looks at his own team.
 
Mirotic is a monster another 25point game. He is averaging 20-8 when he plays 30+mpg. I wonder how Thibs will do the minuets in the playoffs cause Mirotics play demands playing time.
 
Bulls depth if they are healthy worries me. They can just thrown a bunch of big man at you constantly.
 

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