The Cavs vs Bulls Series

[upper lip]

I am awesome and enjoying KI looking like the future while DRose is looking like a former shell of himself. Your the one crying instead of reasonable Basket Ball talk and good conversation. Sure appears your the one with issues arbitrarily random talking shit to people you don't know. But I don't mind kicking the retard in the room (You).

Your as oblivious as Rose is with his self appraisal of his performance while representing his own Country in Int. play.

you're a lost cause. good night

 

[VAIN1]

you're a lost cause. good night

He has always been a fing gun blessed with supreme athleticism which masked how poorly skilled his was. He should have been shooting J's while in rehab yet his jumper is trash 9 of 10 from deep and still shooting lol. I mean come on wtf is he doing shooting that many 3's if his athleticism is back he never was a lethal shooter.

 

[randymoss1881]

Pathetic pusillanimous and plain weak take your ass to bed sleep it off and yes as of now Rose sucks. He has always been a fing gun blessed with supreme athleticism which masked how poorly skilled his was. He should have been shooting J's while in rehab yet his jumper is trash 9 of 10 from deep and still shooting lol. I mean come on wtf is he doing shooting that many 3's if his athleticism is back he never was a lethal shooter.

Why so angry
Rose rarely looks for his shot and picks his spots when to drive he usually come up and gives it to whoever the SG is so he obviously isn't playing aggressive just like he played in 2010. 10 3s in four games isn't a lot.

 

[SVC]

I thought Zach Lowe pretty much nailed what I was seeing out of Rose.

Lowe:
6. The story with Rose is much as it was during his 10-game comeback from ACL surgery: He looks fast and explosive, but the results aren’t there. He’s shooting just 25 percent from the floor, and bricking everything near the rim — contested layups, and those reverse-pivot floaters that are such a key part of his game.

And that's against really bad competition. He's beyond rusty. He's mentally broken, and he's going to need to stay healthy for a full year before I think he's going to even begin to get his head straight.

 

[The Oi]

Vain1 embarrassing himself.

 

[VAIN1]

Vain1 embarrassing himself.

He insulted me and got personal I simply returned the sentiment but thanks for your poignant summation.

Jeez no need to pile on like he is the victim he fired the 1st salvo dang lol

I only talk basket ball keep and ignore usually ignore insults he went in on me because i felt Rose saying he was happy with his 25% shooting and gunning 9 misses in 10 shots from 3 deep delusional.

How is that fair. He has been insulting people all in this thread and others as well.

 

[MoneyMP3]

Vain1 embarrassing himself.

Seriously. Dude has some extra thin skin.

 

[VAIN1]

Board I apologize I was just having a little fun with him out of character my bad. I had 1 to many hard ciders last night ok back to bed

 

[Cassity14]

Vain1 totally writes his post in Word and then uses the thesaurus function for half of the words in it. Here comes a rant full of unnecessary words and first grade grammar skills.

I've never personally been a fan of Rose's game, but expecting him to look like this all season, assuming he's healthy, is a silly assumption. He'll work his way back to the inefficient player with supreme athleticism who can put points up in a hurry that we've seen in the past. The difference with him this season is that he will supposedly have a wider array of offensive talent around him than he's had before.

Outside of Carlos Boozer, the assumed offensive skills of this Bulls roster actually make a lot of sense. Joakim Noah (because of Rose's absence, IMO), has blossomed into an all-star big man who can impact the game in a variety of ways. Taj Gibson is a solid-yet-unspectacular player on both ends of the court who learned how to be used as a weapon and not as a prospect.

Jimmy Butler is one of the best defenders in the league and is renowned as a worker dating back to his days at Marquette. I expect his set jumper to improve each season bit by bit. I doubt he'll be a regular marksman yet, but he may shoot in the neighborhood of 34-35% from 3. That's enough hot keep him on the court for all the other things he does.

The real key, however, is shooting. Doug and Mirotic are both good shooters with strong IQ as long as they can stay on the court defensively. Gibson is a decent mid range shooter. Hinrich is no slouch from outside either.

Derrick Rose has a very strong vision and passing ability. The issue is that he's yet to play alongside another supreme offensive threat. The closest he's had were Ben Gordon and Carlos Boozer. In both cases, those guys certainly benefitted from his point guard skills.

When you have a guy as athletic as Rose (and we're seeing that his physical gifts are still there) with strong vision, there are going to be shots opened up for guys on the floor as long as spacing remains good. We saw this with LeBron for years. They aren't going to be a bad team if they play defense and create shots. I think they'll do both and will finish as one of the top teams in the East as a result.

The trump card, however, is that LeBron can defend Rose in the playoffs when needed and disrupt all of Chicago's shot selection as a result. The Heat showed in 2011 that if you can make Rose uncomfortable, he'll falter. I think we'll see a repeat of that this postseason (should the teams match up), and the Cavs will win in 5 or 6 games.

 

[VAIN1]

Vain1 totally writes his post in Word and then uses the thesaurus function for half of the words in it. Here comes a rant full of unnecessary words and first grade grammar skills.

I've never personally been a fan of Rose's game, but expecting him to look like this all season, assuming he's healthy, is a silly assumption. He'll work his way back to the inefficient player with supreme athleticism who can put points up in a hurry that we've seen in the past. The difference with him this season is that he will supposedly have a wider array of offensive talent around him than he's had before.

Outside of Carlos Boozer, the assumed offensive skills of this Bulls roster actually make a lot of sense. Joakim Noah (because of Rose's absence, IMO), has blossomed into an all-star big man who can impact the game in a variety of ways. Taj Gibson is a solid-yet-unspectacular player on both ends of the court who learned how to be used as a weapon and not as a prospect.

Jimmy Butler is one of the best defenders in the league and is renowned as a worker dating back to his days at Marquette. I expect his set jumper to improve each season bit by bit. I doubt he'll be a regular marksman yet, but he may shoot in the neighborhood of 34-35% from 3. That's enough hot keep him on the court for all the other things he does.

The real key, however, is shooting. Doug and Mirotic are both good shooters with strong IQ as long as they can stay on the court defensively. Gibson is a decent mid range shooter. Hinrich is no slouch from outside either.

Derrick Rose has a very strong vision and passing ability. The issue is that he's yet to play alongside another supreme offensive threat. The closest he's had were Ben Gordon and Carlos Boozer. In both cases, those guys certainly benefitted from his point guard skills.

When you have a guy as athletic as Rose (and we're seeing that his physical gifts are still there) with strong vision, there are going to be shots opened up for guys on the floor as long as spacing remains good. We saw this with LeBron for years. They aren't going to be a bad team if they play defense and create shots. I think they'll do both and will finish as one of the top teams in the East as a result.

The trump card, however, is that LeBron can defend Rose in the playoffs when needed and disrupt all of Chicago's shot selection as a result. The Heat showed in 2011 that if you can make Rose uncomfortable, he'll falter. I think we'll see a repeat of that this postseason (should the teams match up), and the Cavs will win in 5 or 6 games.

Wait word has a thesaurus function cool did not know that btw we have spell check lol.

Regarding the post I agree but as of now It's crazy to think he is happy with his performance JMHO. Whats more is he would openly say so.

 

[amil99]

Rose fans just have to accept that he's not any better than Waiters and thats ok. Nothing personal against Rose but it is what it is.

 

[VAIN1]

Rose fans just have to accept that he's not any better than Waiters and thats ok. Nothing personal against Rose but it is what it is.

Rose has that crazy freakish athleticism Dion is more skilled JMHO.

Rose 0-3 with 1 reb, 1 asst and 1 t/o; played 4 mins. Most stats came on 1 play: drive blocked, reb, missed putback. Vs Mexico

 

[Kizzle]

Way ppl were talking about how much Rose shot the ball during rehab I was scared he'd come out shooting 50% from 3 this year. Well nvm then

 

[VAIN1]

Way ppl were talking about how much Rose shot the ball during rehab I was scared he'd come out shooting 50% from 3 this year. Well nvm then

Thats exactly what I was expecting all that time of he should at least have 2 or 3 spots where his jumper would be money. As of now he doesn't have one sweet spot to count on and this is vs mediocre talent overall.

 

[wuck]

Rather than delete a bunch of posts in this thread, I'm just going to ask for

• being careful about posting while drinking (since that is what was claimed)
* watch the personal insults

I think we can move on to talk about the Rose recovery continuing to look like a long work in progress.