Are the Knicks for Real?

[The Voice]

lol, good luck with that. amare is one of the most untradeable players in the league. he is owed an insane amount of money. at best, they'll swap him for a few more bad contracts...

wrt the knicks: see me in may. lots of teams start off hot, esp when some of their shooters are playing way above expectation. the east is still miami, then a big gap, then the other teams.

Do the Knicks have their amnesty provision still or did that expire?

 

[JMcCurry08]

Does anyone think Memphis is for real?

 

["Boobie" Gibson]

Does anyone think Memphis is for real?

Yes. Not even taking last night into account because I think the Knicks are terrible.

Memphis possibly has the best starting 5 in the league. They're a very good team.

 

[The Voice]

Does anyone think Memphis is for real?

As real as they were two years ago. I think last year was an anomaly for that team.

 

[davedugan43]

They're saying that top-to-bottom, this is the best team the Grizzlies have ever had. They're finally figuring out how to play with one another and it's very fun to watch. I live in Collierville, where most of the Grizzlies live (the Memphis equivalent to Westlake?) and they are the team I watch/root for to be good while the Cavs are rebounding and rebuilding. Go Cavs first, then go Grizz.

1 San Antonio
2 Memphis
3 Oklahoma City
4 Los Angeles Lakers
5 Los Angeles Clippers
6 Denver
7 Dallas
8 Minnesota

Man, the West is deep this year. Any of the top 5 seeds could take the West.

 

[billmac91]

Ya, Memphis is a fantastic blend of defensive toughness and offensive skill. They're going to be a pain in the ass for years to come.

 

[RaptorFan]

memphis has this hybrid half court/running system that some teams fail to put together. it's wonderfully pieced, clearly my favourite this year for the chip.

 

[Mdog1]

yes that Toronto team was every beat as talented and experienced as the knicks.. look I dont like the knicks, Dolan is a mad man. Ownership doesnt support their coaches over the players and Carmelo is a spoiled brat.

but the team did bring in some experienced vets who carmelo has to respect and woodson will let carmelo do what he wants and stroke his ego. but im not saure how some with a straight face can say the knicks suck and will prove it with a second round exit which would makle them one of the top 4 teams in the conference.

4th best tam in the conference is a long stride from last year.

Never said they were... But point still stands that a 6-0 start does not a champion make. A 6-0 start does not even mean the Knicks are a playoff team.

 

[BigErieCavsFan]

they are the team I watch/root for to be good while the Cavs are rebounding and rebuilding. Go Cavs first, then go Grizz.

Definitely my fav of the west for the last 2 or 3 years and always been a Gay fan. Definitely no pun intended...

 

[Tornicade]

the team is playign good basketball. they have the talent and they beat quality teams in that stretch, before the season the things holding the knicks back was chemistry and teamwork. certainly not a lack of talent. their play on the court as indicated in their 6-0 start is a strong indicator that they may have addressed that problem. do you see a problem in their opening week of play that indicates it wont be maintained or that they will fall on their face. ?

1. Knicks are off to a fast start
2. knicks are off to a fast start without one of their all star caliber players on the court
3. They added experience
4. they addressed alot of locker room concerns.
5. their playing defense.

Theres substance behind their 6-0 start and factors that would indicate its not a fluke.

in 99 the raptors did start 5-1 and ended up going to the playoffs.
in 2001 the raptors went 4-2 and ended up in the playoffs.
2004 the raptors went 4-2 and did not goto the playoffs. 2 of those wins came against playoff teams for that season but they did finish the 4-2 start with 5 losses. you had chris bosh in his 2nd year and vince carter traded after 20 games. those raptors certainly didnt have the pedigree of the knicks.

doing further research to find detail on your comparison it appears the Raptors have never started 6-0. so your response was fictional.

 

[Mdog1]

the team is playign good basketball. they have the talent and they beat quality teams in that stretch, before the season the things holding the knicks back was chemistry and teamwork. certainly not a lack of talent. their play on the court as indicated in their 6-0 start is a strong indicator that they may have addressed that problem. do you see a problem in their opening week of play that indicates it wont be maintained or that they will fall on their face. ?

1. Knicks are off to a fast start
2. knicks are off to a fast start without one of their all star caliber players on the court
3. They added experience
4. they addressed alot of locker room concerns.
5. their playing defense.

Theres substance behind their 6-0 start and factors that would indicate its not a fluke.

in 99 the raptors did start 5-1 and ended up going to the playoffs.
in 2001 the raptors went 4-2 and ended up in the playoffs.
2004 the raptors went 4-2 and did not goto the playoffs. 2 of those wins came against playoff teams for that season but they did finish the 4-2 start with 5 losses. you had chris bosh in his 2nd year and vince carter traded after 20 games. those raptors certainly didnt have the pedigree of the knicks.

doing further research to find detail on your comparison it appears the Raptors have never started 6-0. so your response was fictional.

Ok I couldn't remember exactly, but I did know they had a good start to the season and missed the playoffs a few years ago. Again with the Hawks i'm pretty sure that they had a hot start too, and finished as the 4th or 5th seed.

 

[Tornicade]

Ok I couldn't remember exactly, but I did know they had a good start to the season and missed the playoffs a few years ago. Again with the Hawks i'm pretty sure that they had a hot start too, and finished as the 4th or 5th seed.

so mdog your stating that the Knicks will not make the playoffs because teams have gotten off to good starts in the past and not made the postseason?

or are you saying the knicks 6-0 start isa fluke. they have no talent and there is no legitmate reasoning to project them into the playoffs?

 

[Tornicade]

update
Knicks are Knicks are 14-4 with 2 20 point wins over the heat. They have ridiculous depth and are playing slightly above average defense with the 2nd ranked offense in the league.

They have 3 guys playing at over a plus 20 per and 8 guys over 14.

18 games into the season they have the eastern best record .

I believe they are the point where you have to call them a "contender"

 

[B3team]

update
Knicks are Knicks are 14-4 with 2 20 point wins over the heat. They have ridiculous depth and are playing slightly above average defense with the 2nd ranked offense in the league.

They have 3 guys playing at over a plus 20 per and 8 guys over 14.

18 games into the season they have the eastern best record .

I believe they are the point where you have to call them a "contender"

Live by the 3/die by the 3. Miami will have no problem dismantling this NYK team in the playoffs when both teams are trying and the Knicks aren't draining every 3 they throw up. I guess you could call them a contender, but I don't think they have a serious chance of beating MIA, OKC, Memphis, or SAS in a 7 game series when it really matters.

I mean, they are leaning on JR Smith. Anytime you depend or rely on JR Smith for anything, eventually you are going to have a bad time.

With that being said, the Knicks are sharing the ball wonderfully right now and I think they are playing at a high level. I just don't think they have legit shot at the 'ship.

 

[czvo]

Am I the only one that sees similarities between this Knicks team and the '11 Mavs?