Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice leaked trailer

[Jack Brickman]

I won't go to the theater to watch this for fear of getting kicked out for yelling shit at the screen. All Superman needs to do is get a hold of Batman once and it's over. The whole movie I'll be thinking why doesn't he just pick up Batman and fly him into space? Grab him once and twist off his head like a bottle cap. Why not fly into the Batmobile going Mach5 and vaporize him? Shoot his cock off with your laser eyes. Freeze him with your supercold breath and then punch him once into a kajillion peices. If i were Superman i'd beat Batman 1,000,000 out of 1,000,000 times.

For one, Superman doesn't kill people. Well, except in the last movie when he killed that dude.

 

[gourimoko]

I won't go to the theater to watch this for fear of getting kicked out for yelling shit at the screen. All Superman needs to do is get a hold of Batman once and it's over. The whole movie I'll be thinking why doesn't he just pick up Batman and fly him into space?

Same reason he can't grab this guy and fly him into space.. He'd get dropped and potentially killed in the process.

Superman is not invincible. He has a very, widely known, weaknesses. Generally the only thing that prevents common criminals from fashioning Kryptonite bullets to kill Superman is that Kryptonite is rare, expensive, and protected for this very reason.

But Bruce Wayne is a billionaire, and has Kryptonite in most continuities and story arcs. So we can naturally assume that before he would make a move, he'd have had Wayne Enterprises, probably by way of Lexcorp, provide him with some shards of Kryptonite.

Grab him once and twist off his head like a bottle cap.

Generally, Superman isn't going around killing people, and if he were, one has to expect that Batman, as Bruce Wayne or just acting as a Detective would be prepared for that if this really was Superman's style.

Why not fly into the Batmobile going Mach5 and vaporize him?
Shoot his cock off with your laser eyes.

Superman does not have Flash-like reaction time. His reaction time is amazing, but shooting a moving target with x-ray/heat vision isn't that easy for him, he's not Darkseid. People dodge his "laser eyes" all the time, you'll likely see Batman/Wonder Woman do just that.

He could vaporize the batmobile though, but again, you'd be killing whoever is inside the batmobile....

Freeze him with your supercold breath and then punch him once into a kajillion peices.

You mean murder him? Again, that's not really in Superman's character... and again, if it were, Batman would probably be aware of it.

Remember, there are folks with stronger freezing powers than Superman... and Batman has handled them without problems.. again, with detective work and preparation.

If i were Superman i'd beat Batman 1,000,000 out of 1,000,000 times.

Because it sounds like you'd be out to kill him -- and again, that'd change the equation. Since neither guy is trying to kill the other, but merely subdue, it's a completely different kind of fight.

But keep in mind, if Batman wanted to kill Superman, he'd be dead. Both guys are equally capable of killing each other.

Oh no, here comes the baterang...get that weak shit outta here. Dude has no powers.

Neither does this dude, and he'd easily kill Superman 1,000,000 times out of 1,000,000 times..

Superman is invincible unless you feed him a bowl of Kryptonite.

No he's not.

It will be a miracle to make this movie good.

You might be right there though.

But just keep in mind, both of these guys are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. They are not fighting to kill, they are fighting NOT to kill. If one or the other just said, fuck it, I'm going to kill this guy, than either one of them could act on it in different ways.

Yes, Superman has the advantage in a direct, spontaneous confrontation; but if Batman is prepared, Superman is likely going to be at a remarkable disadvantage.

 

[gourimoko]

For one, Superman doesn't kill people. Well, except in the last movie when he killed that dude.

Superman had killed General Zod along with 2 other Kryptonians in the Golden Age era runs. Superman in the 1950's serials killed people all the time; that is to say, they killed themselves and he didn't really think twice about it.

But Superman, generally, does not kill; and outside of the Golden Age, he has never killed anyone as far as I know.

 

[The Oi]

Same reason he can't grab this guy and fly him into space.. He'd get dropped and potentially killed in the process.

Superman is not invincible. He has a very, widely known, weaknesses. Generally the only thing that prevents common criminals from fashioning Kryptonite bullets to kill Superman is that Kryptonite is rare, expensive, and protected for this very reason.

But Bruce Wayne is a billionaire, and has Kryptonite in most continuities and story arcs. So we can naturally assume that before he would make a move, he'd have had Wayne Enterprises, probably by way of Lexcorp, provide him with some shards of Kryptonite.



Generally, Superman isn't going around killing people, and if he were, one has to expect that Batman, as Bruce Wayne or just acting as a Detective would be prepared for that if this really was Superman's style.



Superman does not have Flash-like reaction time. His reaction time is amazing, but shooting a moving target with x-ray/heat vision isn't that easy for him, he's not Darkseid. People dodge his "laser eyes" all the time, you'll likely see Batman/Wonder Woman do just that.

He could vaporize the batmobile though, but again, you'd be killing whoever is inside the batmobile....



You mean murder him? Again, that's not really in Superman's character... and again, if it were, Batman would probably be aware of it.

Remember, there are folks with stronger freezing powers than Superman... and Batman has handled them without problems.. again, with detective work and preparation.

Because it sounds like you'd be out to kill him -- and again, that'd change the equation. Since neither guy is trying to kill the other, but merely subdue, it's a completely different kind of fight.

But keep in mind, if Batman wanted to kill Superman, he'd be dead. Both guys are equally capable of killing each other.



Neither does this dude, and he'd easily kill Superman 1,000,000 times out of 1,000,000 times..

No he's not.

You might be right there though.

But just keep in mind, both of these guys are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. They are not fighting to kill, they are fighting NOT to kill. If one or the other just said, fuck it, I'm going to kill this guy, than either one of them could act on it in different ways.

Yes, Superman has the advantage in a direct, spontaneous confrontation; but if Batman is prepared, Superman is likely going to be at a remarkable disadvantage.

Nerd.

 

[Scholar]

Superman is invincible unless you feed him a bowl of Kryptonite.

Or, you develop a method to seed Earth's atmosphere so that it filters the light of our yellow sun, and causes its light that reaches the Earth to now act as if it were instead from a red sun. That works too. Under a red sun, Superman isn't so super. No more powerful then any other normal man from Earth. Doubt they do that. But, it is one of the other methods of defeating Kal-El.

 

[Maximus]

Since neither guy is trying to kill the other, but merely subdue, it's a completely different kind of fight.

OK, let's say Batman is smarter than Superman...fine. Superman still isn't Moronman. I guess i don't understand the premise of the movie. If the goal is to subdue Batman, all Superman needs to do is sit up in the sky until Batman goes out in public, fly down at 1500mph and hug Batman. Unless Batman is wearing a kryptonite necklace 24/7 in the upcoming movie, i see subduing him being a piece of cake.

How can Batman subdue Superman? I mean, Kryptonite kills him. Explain a scenario how Batman subdues, arrests, locks up Superman for good. I never read the comics.

 

[Jack Brickman]

OK, let's say Batman is smarter than Superman...fine. Superman still isn't Moronman. I guess i don't understand the premise of the movie. If the goal is to subdue Batman, all Superman needs to do is sit up in the sky until Batman goes out in public, fly down at 1500mph and hug Batman. Unless Batman is wearing a kryptonite necklace 24/7 in the upcoming movie, i see subduing him being a piece of cake.

How can Batman subdue Superman? I mean, Kryptonite kills him. Explain a scenario how Batman subdues, arrests, locks up Superman for good. I never read the comics.

In The Dark Knight Returns, Batman pretty much beats Superman's ass with some help from Green Arrow.

 

[Chris]

...how though. Im curious too.

 

[gourimoko]

OK, let's say Batman is smarter than Superman...fine. Superman still isn't Moronman.

Actually, compared to Batman, Superman would be of a child-like intellect. Batman is literally one of the smartest people in the DC universe, and is rarely if ever outsmarted; particularly when it comes to tactics, battle plans, strategy, or combat.

Without comparing education and academic backgrounds but just pure raw intelligence, on the Marvel powers scale, Batman's intellect is similar to Tony Stark or Bruce Banner (5/7). Batman is smarter than Peter Parker who is a genius-level character.

Literally, he's that smart. That's why he's so badass. He's not just a tough guy in a suit.

I guess i don't understand the premise of the movie. If the goal is to subdue Batman, all Superman needs to do is sit up in the sky until Batman goes out in public, fly down at 1500mph and hug Batman. Unless Batman is wearing a kryptonite necklace 24/7 in the upcoming movie, i see subduing him being a piece of cake.

I agree with the premise here because you're saying Superman is after Batman and Batman is being caught spontaneously and off-guard. Totally agree, Superman wins.

But in this movie, and like in the comics, you'll most likely see Batman coming after Superman - or at least, knowing that Superman is coming and having time to prepare.

That's the key difference.

Once Batman has time to formulate and develop a strategy, there are maybe a handful of people in either the DC or Marvel Universes that could stop him...

Also, Batman has been known to carry Kryptonite in his utility belt at any given moment. And keep in mind, the movie and the comics generally portray Batman being the one to have to prep; Superman is simply not aware of just how resourceful Batman - not until the Justice League is formed.

How can Batman subdue Superman?

A multitude of ways.

I mean, Kryptonite kills him. Explain a scenario how Batman subdues, arrests, locks up Superman for good. I never read the comics.

Kryptonite kills Superman the same way exposure to high levels of radiation would kill you or I; it's a slow process, but in time, yes it will kill him.

However, the immediate and most important effect of Kryptonite is that it depowers Superman.

Once Superman is just a man, hell even if he is only somewhat depowered, he is absolutely no match for the world's greatest fighter. None.

Crafting handcuffs made of, or coated with, Kryptonite would completely depower, incapacitate, and eventually kill Superman.

But here are some things that Batman can do to combat Superman based on things others have done in the past.

1) Kryptonite - vitally important.

2) Biosuit / Exo-skeletal armor - think Iron-Man or better yet the Hulkbuster armor designed specifically to fight someone of similar strength to Superman.

3) Metamaterial based coatings - completely neutralizes Superman's x-ray/heat vision.

4) Teamwork - see Wonder Woman. You might think, she's garbage; but she is bad-ass.

5) Poisoning - Batman could use Poison Ivy's poisons to subdue Superman (it's worked before, and he has a catalog of her serums on file).

6) Tech - Batman had developed a plan to disease Superman so that his skin would be transparent to solar rays - depowering him permanently.

So yeah, I mean I get what you're thinking; if you put these two guys in the Thunderdome, totally unprepared, only Superman is likely to walk out.. I think that's a given. But that scenario is unrealistic.

Again, with preparation time, Batman > Superman.

 

[Chris]

We found batmans username on rcf

 

[spydy13]

For those that want the non shitty version.

View: https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/589197792662278144

 

[gourimoko]

For those that want the non shitty version.

View: https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/589197792662278144

Lol @ Zach Snyder #NotBlurry #NotPirated

 

[spydy13]

Lol @ Zach Snyder #NotBlurry #NotPirated

View: https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/589198612074078208


He obviously is pissed that it wasn't unveiled the way he wanted, but he should have known that as soon as the imax prints went out someone would post them even though they probably had signed an NDA.

 

[Sebastian]

Actually, compared to Batman, Superman would be of a child-like intellect. Batman is literally one of the smartest people in the DC universe, and is rarely if ever outsmarted; particularly when it comes to tactics, battle plans, strategy, or combat.

Without comparing education and academic backgrounds but just pure raw intelligence, on the Marvel powers scale, Batman's intellect is similar to Tony Stark or Bruce Banner (5/7). Batman is smarter than Peter Parker who is a genius-level character.

Literally, he's that smart. That's why he's so badass. He's not just a tough guy in a suit.



I agree with the premise here because you're saying Superman is after Batman and Batman is being caught spontaneously and off-guard. Totally agree, Superman wins.

But in this movie, and like in the comics, you'll most likely see Batman coming after Superman - or at least, knowing that Superman is coming and having time to prepare.

That's the key difference.

Once Batman has time to formulate and develop a strategy, there are maybe a handful of people in either the DC or Marvel Universes that could stop him...

Also, Batman has been known to carry Kryptonite in his utility belt at any given moment. And keep in mind, the movie and the comics generally portray Batman being the one to have to prep; Superman is simply not aware of just how resourceful Batman - not until the Justice League is formed.



A multitude of ways.



Kryptonite kills Superman the same way exposure to high levels of radiation would kill you or I; it's a slow process, but in time, yes it will kill him.

However, the immediate and most important effect of Kryptonite is that it depowers Superman.

Once Superman is just a man, hell even if he is only somewhat depowered, he is absolutely no match for the world's greatest fighter. None.

Crafting handcuffs made of, or coated with, Kryptonite would completely depower, incapacitate, and eventually kill Superman.

But here are some things that Batman can do to combat Superman based on things others have done in the past.

1) Kryptonite - vitally important.

2) Biosuit / Exo-skeletal armor - think Iron-Man or better yet the Hulkbuster armor designed specifically to fight someone of similar strength to Superman.

3) Metamaterial based coatings - completely neutralizes Superman's x-ray/heat vision.

4) Teamwork - see Wonder Woman. You might think, she's garbage; but she is bad-ass.

5) Poisoning - Batman could use Poison Ivy's poisons to subdue Superman (it's worked before, and he has a catalog of her serums on file).

6) Tech - Batman had developed a plan to disease Superman so that his skin would be transparent to solar rays - depowering him permanently.

So yeah, I mean I get what you're thinking; if you put these two guys in the Thunderdome, totally unprepared, only Superman is likely to walk out.. I think that's a given. But that scenario is unrealistic.

Again, with preparation time, Batman > Superman.

There are a number of Marvel guys who can take Superman. You mentioned Doom, but also Stark and, naturally, Thanos. Oh, and Squirrel Girl too. I am pissed that Dr. Doom is relegated to rot with the shitty Fantastic Four franchise.

Do you enjoy Arrow and The Flash on CW? I rather like them, though this season of Arrow went off the rails a little.

I'm hoping this new movie will be good, but I am not holding my breath after that trailer. The film division seems the weaker compared to the TV folks. The way they've handled the Flash movie is already semi-disastrous.

 

[MattyFos.]

Gouri, could Bane take Superman? I mean he bested Batman