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Brendan Haywood's Trade Exception

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Gotta feeling it'll just be the TPE dump with Philly, LA, or Minny.

Makes more sense to have that as an asset through the season.
 
AMC said:
Gotta feeling it'll just be the TPE dump with Philly, LA, or Minny.

Makes more sense to have that as an asset through the season.
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No 2016 pick to pair with it in a potential trade, which complicates matters, as does the huge increase in the cap in 2016, making salary dumps less likely, but it will have some value through next July. Regardless of the cap situation, some team will find they need to clear $10-13M. Or will have buyer's remorse from this summer.

As far as the Clippers doing a sign and trade for a viable center like Koufos, what do they have of any value that would entice Memphis (or another team) to do that? Jamal Crawford is really the only player on their roster that they could conceivably use for this purpose, but who would want him?

You know, I don't think the Cavs have missed any opportunities so far with the Haywood chip. The Splitter trade to Atlanta is the closest thing to a missed opportunity, and I really didn't see a need for Splitter here. I mostly viewed him as a solid player with value who could potentially be flipped for a better fit.
 
kovanovich said:
No 2016 pick to pair with it in a potential trade, which complicates matters, as does the huge increase in the cap in 2016, making salary dumps less likely, but it will have some value through next July. Regardless of the cap situation, some team will find they need to clear $10-13M. Or will have buyer's remorse from this summer.

As far as the Clippers doing a sign and trade for a viable center like Koufos, what do they have of any value that would entice Memphis (or another team) to do that? Jamal Crawford is really the only player on their roster that they could conceivably use for this purpose, but who would want him?

You know, I don't think the Cavs have missed any opportunities so far with the Haywood chip. The Splitter trade to Atlanta is the closest thing to a missed opportunity, and I really didn't see a need for Splitter here. I mostly viewed him as a solid player with value who could potentially be flipped for a better fit.
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Well this is a different scenario than most salary dumps. Haywood doesn't cost anything to the team taking him. He can be waived for nothing.
 
kovanovich said:
No 2016 pick to pair with it in a potential trade, which complicates matters, as does the huge increase in the cap in 2016, making salary dumps less likely, but it will have some value through next July. Regardless of the cap situation, some team will find they need to clear $10-13M. Or will have buyer's remorse from this summer.

As far as the Clippers doing a sign and trade for a viable center like Koufos, what do they have of any value that would entice Memphis (or another team) to do that? Jamal Crawford is really the only player on their roster that they could conceivably use for this purpose, but who would want him?

You know, I don't think the Cavs have missed any opportunities so far with the Haywood chip. The Splitter trade to Atlanta is the closest thing to a missed opportunity, and I really didn't see a need for Splitter here. I mostly viewed him as a solid player with value who could potentially be flipped for a better fit.
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because Memphis is overflowing with backcourt talent? Memphis could actually use a bench scorer like Crawford. I just shake my head at people who believe teams will dump even semi-useful talent on the Cavs rather than do a S&T.

When the Cavs used the Celtics Bogans non-guaranteed it was to clear room for LeBron and netted Zeller. Not sure how much that happens this late in FA...
 
Chris Parker said:
because Memphis is overflowing with backcourt talent? Memphis could actually use a bench scorer like Crawford. I just shake my head at people who believe teams will dump even semi-useful talent on the Cavs rather than do a S&T.

When the Cavs used the Celtics Bogans non-guaranteed it was to clear room for LeBron and netted Zeller. Not sure how much that happens this late in FA...
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EDIT: I guess I just don't see why they want another 35+ year old wing.
 
Chris Parker said:
Nick Calathes is your alternative who looks more like an accountant than a ballplayer
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Interesting that you compare Calathes to an accountant in view of the apparent need in Greece for one.:)
 
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Chris Parker said:
because Memphis is overflowing with backcourt talent? Memphis could actually use a bench scorer like Crawford. I just shake my head at people who believe teams will dump even semi-useful talent on the Cavs rather than do a S&T.

When the Cavs used the Celtics Bogans non-guaranteed it was to clear room for LeBron and netted Zeller. Not sure how much that happens this late in FA...
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The Zeller deal and the Bogans deal were two separate trades.

Zeller was part of the salary dump of Jack on July 10th.

On September 25th the Cavs dealt John Lucas III, Erik Murphy, Dwight Powell, and Malcom Thomas to the Celtics for Bogans.

Then on September 27th, the Cavs traded Bogans to Philly for us to create the TPE that eventually allowed us to absorb Mozzy.
 
AMC said:
The Zeller deal and the Bogans deal were two separate trades.

Zeller was part of the salary dump of Jack on July 10th.

On September 25th the Cavs dealt John Lucas III, Erik Murphy, Dwight Powell, and Malcom Thomas to the Celtics for Bogans.

Then on September 27th, the Cavs traded Bogans to Philly for us to create the TPE that eventually allowed us to absorb Mozzy.
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you're right, and that seems more likely, we trade him to somebody and create a TPE.

Just not seeing where we get much enabling someone's salary dump. We're probably looking at Jamal Crawford at that point. Not sure who else there is that needs the cap space. Nobody that signs now is going to require that much room.
 
One target I have heard from national media is none other than Jarrett Jack, the thinking being that Brooklyn might want to cut its luxury tax. Plus they did sign Shane Larkin.

Nets would have to include more salary to make it work, but they have some small non-guaranteed contracts (including Earl Clark!) that they could include and the Cavs could immediately release.

Not saying this is a great deal for Cleveland, but I think it is plausible.
 
This needs to be bumped..we're discussing this trade chip, except in this thread about the chip.
 
I'm getting the feeling we're going to end up using his contract in a trade for the TPE. The Joe Johnson trade seems dead. If we were really going to use it in Nick Young Or Jamaal Crawford it would have been done by now. The lakers/clippers would love to get rid of those contracts and wouldnt hesitate. Some of the other names thrown around dont seem plausible. Dont think the clippers want to trade JJ Reddick, and I dont think we really want DeRozan or Markieff Morris.



Looking at contracts around the league, and teams who would want to clear space, it just doesnt look like anything matches up real well right now. With the trade taking this long, it seems more like wishful thinking on the cavs part that someone will come calling. I just dont see it.
 
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