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Can Thompson be moved?

Discussion in 'Trades, Free Agency, & the Draft' started by Ozone, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. Ozone

    Ozone Rookie

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    Is there anyone with any idea of how to get him the heck off this team?
    Throwing in Smith Hill and Korver while your at it would be $
     
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    Cavatt Hall-of-Famer

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    He prob can't be moved. Until Love comes back I would love Zizic and Nance to start, and TT to come off the bench, but that ain't happening.
     
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    Yes, Thompson can easily be moved.


    To the bench
     
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    Mr. MacPhisto Lapsed Point Guard

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    If he keeps playing well may give him some value by February. The most value would come if they take back a three year high money deal.
     
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    inliner311 NBA Starter

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    One of the only ways I can see TT being trade is if a team with no potential for cap space has their center get a career or season ending injury and that center is on a similar contract. Like if it's a career ending injury and the player is on an expiring, I could see us swapping them for no assets either way. Season ending injury and the player has the same years left as TT, while that player has also been on decline, maybe we get a 2nd round pick or a pair of 2nds.

    Someone has also suggested a Bismack Biyombo straight up trade, just as a change of scenery for both. I could also see the same thing for Mozgov.
     
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    He is playing well. Maybe there is a way to trade him at some point. I just can't think where he fits. His original roll as an off the bench energy guy with a pick and roll whiz that he could set screens for and get oops from would prob make the most sense. Not sure where that is, and what dead weight we could take from them.
     
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    It's really hard to figure where he fits when you take into account his contract. If he was at 10-11 million it might be a different story. For what he gives you would assume a GM would try to a couple guys from the G-league before committing to his 17.5 and 18.5 million. If someone wanted TT, wouldn't they be trying out Marcus Lee right now on a 10 day or a two way contract.
     
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    TT playing well helps his value, but no team will trade for him just to have him.

    If he's a better fit than a player at similar cost on a similar length of contract, the Cavs might be able to get some a modest asset out of a trade (like a second round pick or an inexpensive role player in addition to taking on a similar contract).

    For instance, Thompson might provide slightly better overall production than Dieng for the Timberwolves and would also take that large contract off the books a year earlier than Dieng's expiration. That would give The Timberwolves $17M extra in cap in 2020.

    The Cavs would have to take Dieng's contract. So while the two players cancel one another out in some ways, Thompson would free up cap earlier. What is this worth to Minnesota and what would make it worthwhile for the Cavs to carry that money for an extra year? Ultimately that's where it would hang.

    For the Cavs, there's no reason to trade Thompson for anything less than a first rounder in this type of situation as long as they are not desperate. Thompson will grow in value over time either as an ending contract next year or as an expired contract where cap space will be freed and that cap space COULD be parlayed into draft picks by taking bad money contracts.
     
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    CleveRocks There go the Cavs!

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    TT has been playing like a stud this year. I like him, but I think given our position in the universe we should trade him while he is hot. I was wondering what you guys would think of a trade with Sactown. The are having a pretty good year, but defensively they suck.

    They have thier own 2021 first and a bunch of seconds. I am thinking cauley Stein or Koufus plus Lambisierre. Koufus has a similar rebounding rate to TT, but Cauley Stien might be an actual player pick up. I like Lambisierre because he has a high three point rate. Wondering if he is not a young Frye.
     
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    Tony Z (channel 19 Clev) mentioned that the timing of the injuries and slow recoveries of Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson have done the Cavs no favors, making it pretty much impossible to trade them before the deadline on Feb. 7. Typical Cavs luck!
     
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    Not necessarily. Unless Love had been fully healthy all season, his value was going to be low. I'm sure we could trade Love, but we'd get peanuts back at this point.

    Reality is they need Love to work with Sexton to help him grow AND highlight that Love is still capable. As many have said, Love may be a consolation prize for teams that have cap space and are shut out of the free agent period. Love will have most appeal in the summer and if he comes back and plays well for two months to close out the season, his value may be solid.

    Thompson is an ending contract next year for big money, is still fairly young, and can impact the game positively. I think his defense would be fine in a better system with better helpers. He can rebound, defend, and has added a bit more offense. He's no long threat, but I don't think he can be left unguarded near the paint.

    Thompson has a lot of appeal next year for a team that wants help on the interior.

    We have others that could also have appeal on the trade market in the offseason or at next year's deadline. Henson is another that could qualify and help a team that needs more interior presence. His blocking ability allows him to protect the rim - and many teams could use that. Not an option to trade now, but a future asset.

    Our prime traceable assets now are Burks, Hood, and Clarkson. Clarkson has the extra year but is a spark plug off the bench. I think a team might be willing to bite on him.

    Smith is still out there, but I expect the Cavs not to do a buy out. His contract is under the old CBA and can be traded after the Finals to a team that wants to clear space. I just doubt the Cavs will trade him beforehand (because everyone expects a buyout), but I doubt they buy him out. They'll sit on his contract and move it after the Finals - or they'll cut him if there are no takers. Might as well hold onto the contract. A buy out would't overly benefit the Cavs in cost savings and the assets it could yield for helping a team clear cap space could be worthwhile.
     
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