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cavsfever said:
$18 million/year is 17% of the NEW ($108 million) cap, $16 million/year is 15% of the new cap. A team with 3 max players cannot afford to pay their 6th man almost one fifth of their total payroll.

Not to mention it throws the salary rankings out whack across the whole roster. If TT gets $18 million do you think Kyrie is going to be satisfied earning $19 million? He would ask to renegotiate I would think.
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There is no renegotiating in the NBA.
 
RDriesen said:
Still doesn't change the fact TT isn't worth close to what he is asking for.
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The worst scenario is pissing him off to the point where he signs the QO, becomes unrestricted, and gets 25-30 million from someone next season.
 
supermario21 said:
The worst scenario is pissing him off to the point where he signs the QO, becomes unrestricted, and gets 25-30 million from someone next season.
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You mean best? I'd love to see that happen for some odd reason
 
Kyrieville said:
There is no renegotiating in the NBA.
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Actually there is, although not to increase spending over the cap. In any case it wouldn't be good to have Kyrie pissed off for any reason.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

61. Can existing contracts be renegotiated?

A contract for four or more seasons can be renegotiated after the third anniversary of its signing, extension, or previous renegotiation (if the previous negotiation increased any season's salary by more than 4.5%). Contracts for fewer than four seasons cannot be renegotiated. A contract cannot be renegotiated between March 1 and June 30 of any year.

Only teams under the cap can renegotiate a contract, and the salary in the then-current season can be increased only to the extent that the team has room under the cap (and cannot increase the player's salary beyond the maximum salary). A renegotiation can only be used to provide a salary increase -- players can't take a "pay cut" in order to create more cap room for the team.
 
cavsfever said:
Actually there is, although not to increase spending over the cap. In any case it wouldn't be good to have Kyrie pissed off for any reason.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

61. Can existing contracts be renegotiated?

A contract for four or more seasons can be renegotiated after the third anniversary of its signing, extension, or previous renegotiation (if the previous negotiation increased any season's salary by more than 4.5%). Contracts for fewer than four seasons cannot be renegotiated. A contract cannot be renegotiated between March 1 and June 30 of any year.

Only teams under the cap can renegotiate a contract, and the salary in the then-current season can be increased only to the extent that the team has room under the cap (and cannot increase the player's salary beyond the maximum salary). A renegotiation can only be used to provide a salary increase -- players can't take a "pay cut" in order to create more cap room for the team.
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Why would Kyrie be pissed if one of his best friends is getting paid while he himself was earning a max deal? Jesus Christ, people are looking for things that aren't there right now just to look for them...this is ridiculous.
 
I don't understand why anyone has their panties in a bunch over whether TT is paid 80 or 90 million. Either way it doesn't make a difference - we are way over the cap - so it comes down to whether that extra 10 belongs to Gilbert and friends or TT and his agents.

TT IMHO gambled on himself by not taking what was offered earlier. He has every right to get every dollar he can now.

It's business. Which rich dude gets a little more than the other is of no interest to me.

Now when the Cavaliers gave Danny Ferry a ten year guaranteed contract for almost $40MM that crippled our flexibility, cost us Harper & two #1s and a #2 -- THAT pissed me off. When Stepien traded Campy Russell and draft picks and ended up having us watch Richard Washington and Jerome Whitehead miss free throws - THAT pissed me off.

TT busts his balls and Dan busts his wallet. I love them both and we are so lucky to have this owner, GM and players (maybe Blatt too).

LA and NY would like to have this problem.
 
JMoneyYourHoney said:
Serious question for people here, do you really think us refusing to pay TT 90 mil makes LeBron walking a likelihood?
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Don't think so at all.
I wonder if TT refusing to take the deal at the beginning of the year was because he had Lebron's back.. no way he would refuse that if they didn't share the same agent.
 
Do people still not understand why you re-sign TT?

1. He's young and improving and proven in the playoffs
2. His contract will not be bad in two years
3. He walks and you get NOTHING for him. He stays and you either get his production or the eventual ability to trade him for other players.

Whether we hardball him or get pushed into his # by Rich Paul, whether its an underpay or overpay, it doesn't matter. You sign him for maximum impact on the current roster and on future ability to make moves via trade.
 
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