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Corey Brewer Traded to Houston

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I have a hard time believing that this deal would use the TPE.

Taking on any more salary pushes them into the tax and starts the repeater clock ticking, plus is creates a huge logjam at the 2 and 3.

Do you consider trading Dion for Brewer and a first (would have to be 2016-17 since Minny owes PHX? It clears Dion's contract off the books next year, you still have the TPE and Haywood's contract, plus 2 #1's to package with them next offseason when you go all in on salary. If Dion's in the deal, the Cavs stay below the tax line this year.

With the offensive firepower this team has, you can afford to have one guy out there who isn't looking to bomb away from 37 feet if it helps the D.
 
I have a hard time believing that this deal would use the TPE.

Taking on any more salary pushes them into the tax and starts the repeater clock ticking, plus is creates a huge logjam at the 2 and 3.

Do you consider trading Dion for Brewer and a first (would have to be 2016-17 since Minny owes PHX? It clears Dion's contract off the books next year, you still have the TPE and Haywood's contract, plus 2 #1's to package with them next offseason when you go all in on salary. If Dion's in the deal, the Cavs stay below the tax line this year.

With the offensive firepower this team has, you can afford to have one guy out there who isn't looking to bomb away from 37 feet if it helps the D.

There is no reason for Minny to want Dion. If they wanted Dion we would still have Wiggins.
 
There is no reason for Minny to want Dion. If they wanted Dion we would still have Wiggins.

Not if they wanted both and also envision Wiggins playing a hybrid 3/4. They seem to be going all-in with youth, and don't have a history of making the shrewdest trades in NBA history - the Love deal, notwithstanding.
 
Looking at the REALGM boards for Minny, they said Brewer is a terrible defender.

So, maybe he isn't a good defender as we thought he is?
 
I'm pretty happy with Marion at SG... he is has plenty left in the tank and moves great without the ball and is smart out there.. Brewer is very athletic but don't see how all these guys get enough minutes.. having Marion.LBJ,and Brewer all on the court at the end of games would be a huge plus though .. especially vs SA,CHI, or LAC if you have LBJ guarding the PG

I am happy with Marion as well. He has experience as a starter in the league for 10+ plus years and has won a championship doing it. The dude just knows how to play the game and still doesn't look old. He surely won't be our "weak link" out there like some people are suggesting
 
I assumed waiving the player option meant locking him in for the 15-16 season, not asking him to forgo the money and be a FA after the year.

That makes perfect sense for the Cavs because both Marion and/or Miller could leave after this year or retire after the season. Brewer becomes another immediate contributor and energy guy this year and then is insurance for 2015-2016 against Marion/Miller possibly not being on the roster that season. Wolves need as many minutes as possible for Lavine, GR3, Wiggins, Shabbazz, and Bennett. TPE and a second round pick at most. There is no way the Memphis pick is in play for Brewer IMO.
 
Just don't give much for him, the wolves wanna just get rid of him and they may do us a favour for giving Wiggins to them.
 
Tpe should be enough unless Houston offers picks
That was kinda my point. We can use the TPE and then offer a non-asset. Houston can offer an actual asset in a 2nd rounder, and not really miss because they have so many.
 
Looking at the REALGM boards for Minny, they said Brewer is a terrible defender.

So, maybe he isn't a good defender as we thought he is?
I think this is a valid concern. People who have followed Minny have felt that he is a very overrated defender. Almost like folks see his body type and athleticism and assume he got to be a good defender and it actually doesn't translate into the court
 
Reading the RealGm thread, it sounds like they all agree on three things...

1. He plays harder and with more energy/passion than anyone else on their team night in and night out.

2. He plays extremely stupid and makes a lot of dumb plays

3. He's a great locker room guy and person in general.

They are mixed on his defense. Some say he sucks and some say he is ok, but nobody seems to think he is very good on that end.

So.... I really don't want him. If he's not an absolute stud defender, then you just can't afford to have him out there with his sub-30% 3 point shooting.
 
Great article on Brewer that I read during the Klove waiting period... He was one of the best leak out players in the league even before he played with Love. Brewer and Love had a connection in Minny with that. Between brewer and lebron we would get a ton of those leak outs a game which are easy and demoralizing. It also keeps teams guards from going after O boards. I was hoping he would be thrown in some how with the trade.

It would be awesome to get someone of his ability with the trade exception. (as we arent getting anyone better for 5 million dollars.) Yes he would take minutes away from harris and likely Delly. But it would bring on another player who has won a championship which would be huge.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...the-art-of-the-leak-out-starring-corey-brewer
 
I think the talk about Brewer being on a championship team is a bit overstated.

He played sparingly in 13 games during the regular season after joining the Mavs.

He played in 6 games during the playoffs, averaging 3.8mpg and 1.5ppg. Not an important factor at all in the Mavs playoff run.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a ring, nor am I saying that he couldn't help. But an acquisition of Brewer shouldn't be built on a championship pedigree that was assembled by Dirk, Marion, Terry and others. It's about whether he could help this team and whether it would affect other moves the Cavs might make.
 
I think we should be patient with this. Make a reasonable offer and don't get into a bidding war. Something even better may come along in Jan/Feb.

I'm on board with this. Absolutely no rush at the moment. The team is slowly coming together, building chemistry and gelling with one another. The big question is "Is he a necessity at this point in time or can we do without his immediate contributions?". I wouldn't say so, given the gradual improvements we've been seeing in team play and cohesion and the fact that it's still very early on in the season where this crop of players is trying to figure it all out with each game.

Additionally, some interesting quotes I found on the deal:

Brewer's a compulsive gambler on defense, but can also make plays happen. He's a superb leak-out artist, not just a cherry-picker, but someone with incredible timing when it comes to getting out in transition.

He's a better fit with Houston than he is in Cleveland. The Rockets could use someone at the three to give minutes in an up-tempo offense, vs. the more cerebral Cavs offense. The Kevin Love outlet passes are great, but the Cavs really need a rim protector in a bigger way. Houston on the other hand has started the season with sound defense, and needs a little more veteran speed to get out in rhythm.

Brewer is an athletic small forward capable of contributing key minutes on a contending team. He is not a great outside shooter, but is a good slasher who can finish at the rim. More importantly, he is a very good defender, utilizing his length to shut down perimeter scorers. There are plenty of teams who will be looking to upgrade their defense as the season moves along, and Brewer represents a solid option with a good contract.

Seems to be a number of conflicting reports on on his defense. He's shooting 20% from 3 this year, averaging career numbers of 29.4% from the perimeter. He'll also be a 69% career free throw shooter entering a team leading the NBA in FT percentage. Personally, the last thing we need is a shooting guard that can't stretch the floor with 3-point shooting abilities or make shots at the stripe, regardless of how 'hard' he plays or his 'ability to catch outlet passes from Kevin Love.' Don't we already have 4-5 guys that fit that mould anyway?
 
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Personally, the last thing we need is a shooting guard that can't stretch the floor with 3-point shooting abilities or make shots at the stripe, regardless of how 'hard' he plays or his 'ability to catch outlet passes from Kevin Love.' Don't we already have 4-5 guys that fit that mould anyway?

Do we even have one guy like that?

Don't get me wrong, Brewer would be a much better fit if he COULD hit the 3, but saying we have 4-5 guys who fit the mold already...no, we don't.

Brewer would be our first, maybe second defense first player on this team. And I cannot think of many players on this team, especially on the wing, whose first instinct is to drive rather than shoot. That being said, that's not really a good thing all the time.

Brewer wouldn't start here, though. He'd be the relief to LeBron and eventually bench fodder when Harris goes into the starting line up.
 

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