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Cleveland Browns Quarterback Position

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First off honestly Kap in theory is a guy who Cleveland could bring in, but in all honesty if we were looking for another QB, we would have brought him in already. I am pretty sure baring injury Osweiler, Kessler, Kizer and Hogan are the guys we will look at and Hogan will likely be moves to the practice squad. I do not see us having any other as long as no injuries happen to those 4 guys or someone like what we did with Davis a few years ago, someone young and interesting ends up becoming available.

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Can we please just cut Hogan or trade Brock for scraps at this point?

How can we possibly justify splitting these pre-season reps up four different ways. Kizer should be playing from the third quarter all the way through the fourth and to the end of the game. We already know Hogan has no future of being even an adequate back up quarterback for an NFL team.

Why are we still giving him reps.
 
Can we please just cut Hogan or trade Brock for scraps at this point?

How can we possibly justify splitting these pre-season reps up four different ways. Kizer should be playing from the third quarter all the way through the fourth and to the end of the game. We already know Hogan has no future of being even an adequate back up quarterback for an NFL team.

Why are we still giving him reps.

Think back to last season. The Browns had to prepare Charlie Whitehurst as an emergency starter. If they have Osweiler in the first team, he is going to get two drives or so with the first team. He is a veteran and that's all the coaches need to see. Kessler and Kizer will play the majority of the preseason minutes, Hogan will go out there at the end with the table scraps who are looking to make the practice squad. The preseason is important for rookies to prove they belong, but it's also about keeping impact players healthy and getting a good look at the depth at the end of the roster.
 
Hogan hasn't looked too bad TBH.
 
Think back to last season. The Browns had to prepare Charlie Whitehurst as an emergency starter. If they have Osweiler in the first team, he is going to get two drives or so with the first team. He is a veteran and that's all the coaches need to see. Kessler and Kizer will play the majority of the preseason minutes, Hogan will go out there at the end with the table scraps who are looking to make the practice squad. The preseason is important for rookies to prove they belong, but it's also about keeping impact players healthy and getting a good look at the depth at the end of the roster.

Yeah, sure it is.

It's also about getting our young rookie the max amount of game reps as possible. This whole trying to act like Hogan even remotely has a shot thing is awful. We know exactly where he's going to be when we get to September 10. On his couch.
 
Yeah, sure it is.

It's also about getting our young rookie the max amount of game reps as possible. This whole trying to act like Hogan even remotely has a shot thing is awful. We know exactly where he's going to be when we get to September 10. On his couch.

If Hogan works on his accuracy he would be a great practice squad stash. The practice squad has been expanded to ten players and a fourth string QB who knows the offense isn't that bad an idea. I don't think you really grasp what happens in minicamp. You need arms because the roster size is at 90 right now. You are going to blow Kizer's arm out if you have him throw on the third and fourth string offenses. "Tired arm" is a legitimate issue in the preseason because of all the practice time.
 
If Hogan works on his accuracy he would be a great practice squad stash. The practice squad has been expanded to ten players and a fourth string QB who knows the offense isn't that bad an idea. I don't think you really grasp what happens in minicamp. You need arms because the roster size is at 90 right now. You are going to blow Kizer's arm out if you have him throw on the third and fourth string offenses. "Tired arm" is a legitimate issue in the preseason because of all the practice time.

No. I fully understand.

We could have come into camp with 3 QB's. It's not that outlandish of an idea. Don't try "sonning" me... LeBron...
 
Keys has a good point here, Osweiler will get 1-2 series as the "starter". That gives the majority of the snaps to Kessler and Kizer. Those are the 2 guys you want to get the most snaps, not Osweiler. TBH, Hogan probably gets 1-2 series at the very end of the game and those are completely worthless.
 
No. I fully understand.

We could have come into camp with 3 QB's. It's not that outlandish of an idea. Don't try "sonning" me... LeBron...
Honestly.... I think if given the same leash and reps, Kevin Hogan is probably a better pro quarterback than Cody Kessler.
 
Keys has a good point here, Osweiler will get 1-2 series as the "starter". That gives the majority of the snaps to Kessler and Kizer. Those are the 2 guys you want to get the most snaps, not Osweiler. TBH, Hogan probably gets 1-2 series at the very end of the game and those are completely worthless.

I don't see that happening at all.

They're going to give Osweiler much more time as the starter than 1-2 series. They're evaluating him as much as they are the other QB's on the roster. They're going to give him the chance to show what he can do and to win the job throughout the pre-season.
 
Honestly.... I think if given the same leash and reps, Kevin Hogan is probably a better pro quarterback than Cody Kessler.

I don't know about that. I don't think Hogan has the consistency in his throwing mechanics to be much more than a project on the taxi squad. I liked watching him in college, but he is a bit of a Tim Tebow. He does have a good mind for the position and has outstanding athleticism. If he puts in the work to clean it all up, he could be a player, but Tebow never figured it out and plays minor league baseball now.

As for Osweiler, he has been consistently devalued because at best he is a low end bridge QB. Nobody is going to get excited over this guy doing his job, but the Browns are likely going to be in a position where Kizer isn't ready week 1. Again, I'm following the Denver situation because Simien is the boring bridge QB and Lynch is the physical specimen they want to make the jump... It's so tedious waiting on the heir apparent to take over.
 
I don't see that happening at all.

They're going to give Osweiler much more time as the starter than 1-2 series. They're evaluating him as much as they are the other QB's on the roster. They're going to give him the chance to show what he can do and to win the job throughout the pre-season.

Think they are referring only to only game 1.

To be honest, i have warmed slightly to Brock starting. I am of the opinion that if the coaches feel that Kizer needs more time, Brock is the better option. He is willing to throw the ball downfield more than Kessler, which is vital to a running offense.

I still think Brock is only tall Hoyer, but that may be enough for Hue.
 
I still think Brock is only tall Hoyer, but that may be enough for Hue.

Oh, numbers the past few years would say you are incorrect. Osweiler has been more durable. I'll give him that. Hoyer's passing numbers are far better, and he is comfortably the starter in S.F. right now, unchallenged for his starting spot for the time being. Let's not dwell in the past, though.
 

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