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Cleveland Browns Quarterback Position

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Matt Barkley Or Time Tebow? The EAgles are deciding between those 2 for their 3rd stringer - Out here they would be in contention for the starting jobs- It is shocking that no coach worth his salt has found a way to build a great time sans a quarterback
 
Neither Barkley or Tebow would even be considered here for the 3rd string job, calm down.

I understand some fans have a very low opinion of McCown, Lewis, Shaw...and rightfully Manziel, but some 3 of those 4 guys have shown that they can play in the NFL. They are, at least, capable players who can manage to grind their teams to a win.

In McCown's case, he did it as early as the winter of 2013, and Lewis has been nothing but steady when he has been called on in the NFL. They aren't going to win you a game, but most of the time they won't lose you the game either.

IDK, I understand people's want to have a game changing QB, but sometimes having the steady hand isn't so bad either, especially if you can properly build around them, which I think the Browns are doing. Doing well, even. With Mack back, this team can have a potent game on the ground, and the defense is still incredibly solid and should be even better in their second year in the scheme.
 
Let's make fun of ourselves for a second: I thought Barkley would be an excellent quarterback.

I wanted him to come out a year early. Turns out he came out a year late (for him)
 
Let's make fun of ourselves for a second: I thought Barkley would be an excellent quarterback.

He's got USC to blame for his lack of development.

Was one of the best true freshman I've ever seen.
 
Mariota falling to 12 is a pipe dream.

Found this pass chart of Mariota. It's only for six games but it's kinda scary.....
MariotaChart.0.png

Triangles= Completions
X's= Incompletions and/or Interceptions

Blue= Pass thrown behind receiver
Yellow= Low pass
Orange= Overthrow
Green= On target
Dark Green= Drop
Light Blue= Thrown away
Red= Interception
 
Looks like MM has a little trouble to his right. At least it's just my first impression.
 
Browns next starter will be Jerrod Johnson. He started at Texas A&M a few years ago. He's the reason Ryan Tannehill switched to wide receiver for a year: Johnson won the quarterback job.

Johnson was (and is) 6'5", threw for 3,579 yards and 30 touchdowns for the Aggies in 2009, and also rushed for 506 yards and eight touchdowns that year but then he hurt his shoulder and threw terrible at the combine and went un-drafted. He'll be performing at the veteran combine.
 
Appreciate the shot in the dark, but Johnson was pretty terrible.

I doubt much has changed since being out of the league.
 
Two things on that Mariotta chart. Hate that a majority of his picks come over the middle on 5/10, which probably means shitty read. Like that he overthrows deep balls. Would rather miss long 10/10

Also, Petty is a stud. Thought Whittfield, who's an elite QB guru through the draft process, really drilled the idea that just because he wasn't asked to take snaps from center doesn't mean he can't. From the pieces I've seen, thought his footworked looked great, and he can fling a ball. I honestly hope he comes in, nails an interview, nails a workout, and we fall in love. Arm talent? Dude's got it. Mentality? Got it. Is he a day one starter? No. Is he better than Johnny? Not even close.
 
Two things on that Mariotta chart. Hate that a majority of his picks come over the middle on 5/10, which probably means shitty read. Like that he overthrows deep balls. Would rather miss long 10/10

Also, Petty is a stud. Thought Whittfield, who's an elite QB guru through the draft process, really drilled the idea that just because he wasn't asked to take snaps from center doesn't mean he can't. From the pieces I've seen, thought his footworked looked great, and he can fling a ball. I honestly hope he comes in, nails an interview, nails a workout, and we fall in love. Arm talent? Dude's got it. Mentality? Got it. Is he a day one starter? No. Is he better than Johnny? Not even close.

I like the concept of Petty but not because of anything Whitfield said. Remember Whitfield's protege last year was Manziel and he raved about him. Like Manziel, Petty is a client of Whitfield so of course he's going to say positive things about him.
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-b...-positioned-to-make-a-move-for-marcus-mariota


Browns now positioned to possibly make move for Marcus Mariota
March, 20, 2015 8:00
AM ET By Pat McManamon | ESPN.com

The signing of Dwayne Bowe may mean nothing in terms of the Cleveland Browns’ long, lost quarterback position. It may well be that the Browns intend to go into the 2015 season with Josh McCown and Johnny Manziel -- scary as that sounds.

Then again, maybe the Browns are laying low for a major move -- a trade up to acquire Oregon’s Marcus Mariota.

With Bowe on the roster, the trade makes more sense than it did without him.
Without Bowe, the Browns were in dire need of a receiver. With him (and with Brian Hartline), they can get by for a year or two, assuming all goes as planned. Other moves on paper seem to complement adding a young quarterback.


AP Photo/Jae C. Hong
The Browns have addressed several areas of need this offseason, but the only way they'll straighten out their quarterback situation is to trade up to grab Marcus Mariota.

With cornerback Tramon Williams, Mike Pettine has two long-armed corners who can play press coverage the way the coach likes.

With Randy Starks, the defensive line has another body to rotate in the mix.

With Isaiah Crowell and Terrance West, the Browns can start with the belief that they have two backs.
They need a tight end to replace Jordan Cameron, but that player can be found in the second or third round of the draft.

The only glaring need is quarterback, but the Browns have those two first-round picks and are better positioned to offer them plus another in 2016 to move up for Mariota.

It’s a lot to give up, especially coming off a draft when they used a first-round pick for Manziel. Teams that use back-to-back first-round choices on the same position are teams that lose -- or are run by Matt Millen.

But owner Jimmy Haslam has made it clear the team needs to “fix” its quarterback problem, and it is Haslam’s belief that a team needs a top-10 quarterback to win.

McCown may be better than folks gave him credit for when he signed with the Browns, but he’s nowhere close to the top 10. Manziel presents more questions than answers at this point.

There are no other quarterbacks on the market remotely close to the top 10.

Which leads to the draft, the only place the Browns can take a significant step this offseason at the game’s most important position.

There, Mariota seems to be the strongest and most logical answer.

Mariota is 6-foot-4, has a strong arm and exudes humility to the point that some say he’s too humble (if there is such a thing). He had 105 passing and 15 rushing touchdowns in 41 career starts for the Ducks -- with just 14 interceptions. He has touch, feel in the pocket and great speed. He has his degree, he treats the game with respect and (unlike Jameis Winston) has zero off-field red flags.

But there will be growing pains.

Mariota played in Oregon’s fast-paced, spread offense, so there will be an adjustment period just like the one Manziel had. But the general thinking on Mariota is that he has more long-term potential than Manziel because of his size and arm strength -- and because he’s faster.

Think Alex Smith, but a better overall player.

The Browns have the feel of a team that is far away from winning, but they were 7-9 last season and have filled some needs this week.

Their quarterback situation remains a puzzle. But the notion of McCown joining the team to hold the fort as Mariota learns makes a lot of sense. And it makes a lot more sense than turning the team over to McCown.
Acquiring Mariota would raise questions about Manziel’s future, but the Browns can’t count on Manziel being available until they know where he stands after rehab. Then they have to make a judgment on whether Manziel can play in the NFL.

They could simply decide Mariota is a better long-term option.

Mariota’s learning curve can’t be underestimated. But a team that is patient might benefit.

The Browns rarely have shown patience with a young quarterback, but they do have the ammunition needed to trade up.

Will they do it? Nobody knows, and the team can’t say. There have been no leaks that Mariota will work out privately for the Browns, nothing other than speculation and chatter.

But with Bowe on the roster, the Browns are in a better position to ponder the possibility.

If the team truly wants to come out of this offseason with a top-10 quarterback, trading up to grab Mariota is the only move that makes sense.

Read more
: A Marcus Mariota trade might be enticing, but does it make sense for the Browns to try to move up to get him, asks Jeremy Fowler.
 

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