Cleveland Browns Quarterback Position

[UDcleveland]

I’m starting to come around on midwest. He’s like a vigilante in times where nobody actually needs or asks for help.

 

[Midwestcav]

The new guy has longer posts than Sportscock did when he first started interning here

The new guy apologizes for that. It is hard to fight the good fight without presenting all the info. I truly am sorry for the long posts. I will cut them back. Thanks for the heads up. I get very passionate about sports.

 

[AZ_]

Bullshit!!! I call a spade a spade in case you haven't noticed. I readily say Allen needs to sit a year. That he is not the most ready to play. But I do think he has the most upside. If Baker was taller I would pick him, but I feel he won't be able to see over the line for throwing lanes. I feel he has the arm, the touch, and leadership among other things. I feel Rosen will get injured and Darnold is just hard for me to nail down.

I know Allens weak spots better than anyone on here, but I am certainly not giving this crowd ammunition. You guys dream up enough on him the way it is. I will give you one on here but it is half his fault, half his running backs fault. His throws to a back on a relief flare are behind him a quarter of the time, the other quarter the back drops the pass right to him. So only half of those passes get completed. And that should be around the 80 percentile. The pass out of the backfield should be an easy pass for him. But he is looking better with his short passes, but they are against air.

I always got mad at his OC because he would never work Allen into a game. He would start him out on a 3rd and long pass. A lot of quarterbacks need a few short passes to start off the game or the 2nd half. You hear announcers talk about it all the time. They need to get a little confidence before trying to throw passes in tiny windows. And with how slow the Wyoming receivers were, he didn't get to throw too many timing passes because they couldn't get seperation. If you had actually watched Allen and Wyoming play against Oregon , you would have seen how outmatched Wyoming was. Oregon had a lot of team speed that we couldn't match up to.

In the Iowa game this year the score was Iowa up 7 - 3 with about two minutes left in the first half. Allen hits a wide open receiver perfectly in the hands in the end zone for an easy TD. The receiver drops it . That pretty much summed up our receivers for the year. The offense looked OK in the bowl game, and Allen played well with three TD,' in the 1st quarter I do believe. In the 2nd half our OC starts running the ball again because we have a big lead and he wants to chew up clock, not develop players for next year. Not reward backups and seniors who deserved some playing time. So Allen ends up finishing his career handing off the football on the blue smurf turf in Boise Idaho in the Potato Bowl.

Vigen is Wyoming's OC, how that idiot got to coach Wentz and Allen is beyond me. That both were in the running for the #1 pick in the draft is nothing short of amazing. Try and watch Vigen call a Wyoming game, you will be pulling your hair out before the end of it. The guy is retarded. To have a qb like Allen starting for you and you literally hold him back and turn him into a fullback , and a guy that hands the ball off to running backs that average around 2.5 yards a carry if that. The only reason Allen was being looked at is he would put on a clinic at times the year before, and got us in the conference championship after being picked last by the press and coaches in the preseason . Allen led us past ranked Boise State and ranked San Diego State to win our division. We lost to San Diego State in the championship game by 3.

Wyoming had 5 offensive players in NFL camps that year. Which has never happened at UW before. Four of them made rosters. This year we may not have anyone on the offensive side of the ball but Allen in NFL camps unless they walk on. So those of you who like to throw stats around, there are just some stats that won't tell the story of what is really going on. And Allen has never even got close to throwing anyone under the bus. The only thing he says is it was his fault and that he needs to get better and fix it. That it was mostly his footwork and that they are working really hard to reverse that. He never blames his coaches, players, offense or other things that he should. He is a class act and Cleveland would be lucky to have him. But I think we all agree he is not the right fit at this time. You and a few others are the only ones saying he can't improve. You are dead wrong and have no background other than a shitty opinion of what he is capable of doing. And why you think your unqualified opinion means anything is beyond me. There are a shitload of people who have seen him in person, who have either played the game or been around it in some professional capacity that disagree with you. So I think I will take their opinion over yours based on sound logic.

Certainly not reading all of this.

Nobody wants to hear the multitude of excuses repeated over and over again.

 

[Norm]

I would so love if midwest and AZ were the same poster. I would pull my chubby stomach muscle laughing

 

[Chris]

He calls a spade a spade... it's on his resume

 

[Otsego Mar]

The new guy has longer posts than Sportscock did when he first started interning here

He's not a pushover like sportscoach (much love sportster I enjoy your posts).

 

[Seiklis]

I’m starting to come around on midwest. He’s like a vigilante in times where nobody actually needs or asks for help.

 

[mds]

The new guy apologizes for that. It is hard to fight the good fight without presenting all the info. I truly am sorry for the long posts. I will cut them back. Thanks for the heads up. I get very passionate about sports.

My passion for sports is stronger than my passion for reading.

 

[A Squared]

Who wants one?

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

The new guy apologizes for that. It is hard to fight the good fight without presenting all the info. I truly am sorry for the long posts. I will cut them back. Thanks for the heads up. I get very passionate about sports.

I actually appreciate the unique insight you bring to the board. And if we do draft Allen I’ll probably go back and read all of your posts and all of Spectres posts to talk myself into it.

 

[JDailey23]

Who wants one?
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I like it!

 

[CBBI]

In one respect, the people who say it's not all about completion percentage are right.

Completion percentage, like many other things in evaluating college QBs, is more of a baseline thing. If you don’t hit a certain benchmark, your odds of NFL success drop dramatically.

Same with hand size, same with ball velocity, same with wonderlic, etc.

A great score/measurement is mostly irrelevant.

A lousy score/measurement? Problem.

 

[Ohio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/comments/8eodu1/after_10s_of_hours_of_reading_other_peoples/

You guys gotta read this lmao I'm rolling

 

[Sebastian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/comments/8eodu1/after_10s_of_hours_of_reading_other_peoples/

You guys gotta read this lmao I'm rolling

"Pro Comparison: It's a common trend for scouts to compare black quarterbacks to other black quarterbacks just because of their skin color. Because of that, I am going to compare Lamar Jackson to a white quarterback: Russell Wilson."

 

[Ohio]

"Pro Comparison: It's a common trend for scouts to compare black quarterbacks to other black quarterbacks just because of their skin color. Because of that, I am going to compare Lamar Jackson to a white quarterback: Russell Wilson."

Yeah that was the best one.

They're all really good though.