Closer Look: Otto Porter

[brooks]

I'm not as sold as most people on Porter's game, but if he's as sure-fire of a player as he's made out to be, who's to say he's even available when we pick? MKG, a similar prospect but less developed offensively, managed to go #2 last year. Guys like Smart and McLemore are almost like this year's versions of Dion and Beal in a sense - guys who managed to be drafted after MKG. If Porter puts on a strong showing in the combines, based on recent history, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he's gone by the time our number gets called. It's not like Orlando, Phoenix, New Orleans, Washington, etc. aren't in need of a do-it-all type SF as well.

More-so than most years, I think combines are going to play a HUGE factor in determining who ends up where. I have a feeling that Porter's stock is going to fall once combines come and go, but assuming it doesn't, we may have to start getting excited about someone else. If Porter shows that his floor is truly that of Danny Granger (pretty bold statement, Ford), there's next to no chance he's available at #4 or later, especially in such a weak draft.

 

[oasis05]

Len could fall like vucevic and be available at the 16th pick with out a trade. Personally my ideal unlikely .scenario.

 

[rosebowl89]

Len could fall like vucevic and be available at the 16th pick with out a trade. Personally my ideal unlikely .scenario.

He will not. Stop that silliness.

 

[Dr. Claw]

I'm not as sold as most people on Porter's game, but if he's as sure-fire of a player as he's made out to be, who's to say he's even available when we pick? MKG, a similar prospect but less developed offensively, managed to go #2 last year. Guys like Smart and McLemore are almost like this year's versions of Dion and Beal in a sense - guys who managed to be drafted after MKG. If Porter puts on a strong showing in the combines, based on recent history, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he's gone by the time our number gets called. It's not like Orlando, Phoenix, New Orleans, Washington, etc. aren't in need of a do-it-all type SF as well.

More-so than most years, I think combines are going to play a HUGE factor in determining who ends up where. I have a feeling that Porter's stock is going to fall once combines come and go, but assuming it doesn't, we may have to start getting excited about someone else. If Porter shows that his floor is truly that of Danny Granger (pretty bold statement, Ford), there's next to no chance he's available at #4 or later, especially in such a weak draft.

And now that Smart is likely out, the Cavs have to hope that they get a pick in the top 3 to secure Porter. Kyrie needs a shooter he can get the ball to. Dion is a slasher, and I think he is almost a redundant player (despite playing very well). Porter is the jack-of-all-trades that the Cavs should have had but the plan was foiled by Jordan and having that 4th pick.

If this team picks Alex Len, I'm just gonna sit back and watch the countdown before the vultures take Kyrie out of Cleveland.

 

[oasis05]

We're still edging out phoenix in suckitude by one game, so we are odds on favorites for the 3rd pick. If orlando and charlotte tie for the number one, and they split the lottery balls does that give us better odds for the number one pick than if there was no tie? Seems diluting the worst teams shot at number one would give the other lottery teams a better shot than giving one team the most balls.

 

[Cassity14]

We're still edging out phoenix in suckitude by one game, so we are odds on favorites for the 3rd pick. If orlando and charlotte tie for the number one, and they split the lottery balls does that give us better odds for the number one pick than if there was no tie? Seems diluting the worst teams shot at number one would give the other lottery teams a better shot than giving one team the most balls.

You're not accounting for the #2 worst record's lotto balls. If Orlando and Phoenix tie, they will split the balls given to the 1 and 2 seeds. Essentially, they'd be lotto seeds 1A and 1B. The Cavs would still not have as many balls as either team.

 

[oasis05]

How many balls will the 3 seed have? How many balls with the 2 seed have? How many balls will the one seed have? How many balls will the 1 seed have in a tie with the 2 seed? How many balls will the 2 seed have in a tie with the 1 seed?

Once we have that information send it to Douglar and have him odd the ball winners.

 

[wuck]

How many balls will the 3 seed have? How many balls with the 2 seed have? How many balls will the one seed have? How many balls will the 1 seed have in a tie with the 2 seed? How many balls will the 2 seed have in a tie with the 1 seed?

No ties:

1. 250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
2. 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
3. 156 combinations, 15.6% chance (99% chance of receiving a top 5 pick)
4. 119 combinations, 11.9% chance

1 and 2 tie:

1. 225 combinations, 22.5% chance (and also seeded higher if not landing in 1-3)
2. 224 combinations, 22.4% chance

3 and 4 tie:

3. 138 combinations, 13.8% chance (and better shot at top 5, since seeded higher if not landing 1-3)
4. 137 combinations, 13.7% chance

If the Cavs finish in 3rd alone, they have a 99% chance of getting a top 5 pick. If they finish in 4th (after tie-breaker), that goes down to 84%. So, statistically speaking, the result in Charlotte could help solidify a top 5 pick.

 

[Revenged25]

I don't think Len would be the type of player that makes Irving leaves, I see Len like Big Z, able to hit that mid range shot in pick and pops as well as providing some defense. He'll never be Dwight or Ben Wallace, but he can get 1.5-2.7 blocks a game. He won't fall out of the top 10.

Porter is the same. He's going to be a great player in the NBA, just maybe never an all-star as the guys like MKG and Porter unless they get hyped don't get the exposure as the bigger names on their team do, although they might be even more important to a championship run than those big name players. Guys like Horry, Bowen, etc they don't get the all-star games and pub the Duncan's, Kobe's, and Shaq's get, but without them they don't get the ring.

 

[oasis05]

You guys see what Paul George is doing in Indiana? Even when his shot is off he's still putting up near triple doubles with his abilities on the boards and in the passing game. That's Porter. Porter is coming into the league with a better offensive game, and his jump shot is much improved over last year. Porter is not just a role player, he's proven capable of putting points up in a hurry and carrying the offensive load. Oladipo on the other hand shied away at the moment of truth when his team needed him most. Porter was the guy taking last second shots, and Porter went down with the ball in his hands like a jordan not a tayshaun prince. He has the assertiveness to take over that you look for in a franchise player. Porter has point forward capabilities that make him capable of leading a team. He's the guy that has the lowest risk in the draft. If we draft Porter at three it's not to stand in the corner and watch Irving and waiters dribble. He's coming here to take his spot as the alpha male. He has the potential to be the best player on the team.

 

[Revenged25]

Porter isn't Jordan oasis, but I will give you that he's a Pippen. He's that guy. Jordan got all the pub, but without Pippen, Jordan didn't win a single ring, and even when Jordan left, Pippen still led that team to the playoffs... just saying. Jordan is the greatest ever, but Pippen is the most disrespected ever in the way his presence made it all work.

 

[oasis05]

Pippen had elite athleticism. He dunked from the free throw line. Think Porter is more going to use his jumper, pippen was just a crazy athlete.

 

[Cassity14]

I don't see Porter having the same athletic ability that Paul George has. Everyone keep in mind that George has grown to 6-10 since entering the league at 6-8. Pretty miraculous.

 

[randymoss1881]

Athletic ability can be overrated when you got tramendous skills (see kyrie). But when you got 2 dominate guards who will score at will and are both willing and good passers what do you want in a small foward?? One that can shoot mid rang(shot 68% for 17ft last year), 3pointers, doesnt need the ball to be successfull, has basketball iq, and has size (6'9-7'1wingspan). Dude was molded to play for the cavs.



Is it just me or does Otto Porter seem like a perfect fit for the Cavs?

Chad Ford (1:21 PM)


Perfect fit. Porter was made for the Cavs. They'd probably take Noel if they get the No. 1 pick, but after that ... I think Porter is No. 2 on their board.

 

[ajz20]

Len could fall like vucevic and be available at the 16th pick with out a trade. Personally my ideal unlikely .scenario.

No chance