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Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%

  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
I think everyone last year got shredded by the warriors. No one really has a formula to go up against them.

I think Sexton's ability to attack constant would have helped. I think Zizic like Mozgov in 2015 and 2016 would have had a role.

The formula that I thought that could work is two guards that will attack downhill for the whole game, putting constant pressure on them until crunch time. I was real excited at the thought of Kyrie and Rose rotating in for each other before Kyrie asked to be traded. Then have a switch everything group with big wing players to combat their death lineup. I always thought we were at least one big wing short every year after Durant got there.

I would have taken any of those 5 guys over Clarkson or Hood from last year. Maybe saying huge help would have been an exaggeration but I think they could have helped in their current forms.

Boys against men.

Hood was a mess. Clarkson - well we know all about him.

But JR could still play some D and could shoot as well. Replacing him with any of the five listed would have made things worse.

Our kids have a LONG way to go to be ready for good teams in playoff conditions.
 
I love Collin and the progress he made this season but let's not go crazy. Sexton would have been a nightmare on the defensive end.

Our team was not good defensively last year at all. Like really bad. They needed someone else to score, and Collin could have done that. GSW defense isn't able to stop penetrating guards especially if they can beat Klay off the dribble. It's why Kyrie shredded them.

Anyway, I'm not saying Collin would have been the factor that would have beaten them, but he would have scored on them, and he would have hit some 3's. It wouldn't have looked so bad
 
Our team was not good defensively last year at all. Like really bad. They needed someone else to score, and Collin could have done that. GSW defense isn't able to stop penetrating guards especially if they can beat Klay off the dribble. It's why Kyrie shredded them.

Anyway, I'm not saying Collin would have been the factor that would have beaten them, but he would have scored on them, and he would have hit some 3's. It wouldn't have looked so bad

Our team last year was the 75-76 Cavaliers defensively compared to this season.

Last year we had George Hill and JR starting. This year it was Sexton and Knight.

Our D was several notches below terrible.
 
Boys against men.

Hood was a mess. Clarkson - well we know all about him.

But JR could still play some D and could shoot as well. Replacing him with any of the five listed would have made things worse.

Our kids have a LONG way to go to be ready for good teams in playoff conditions.

I never said anything about replacing JR. I just think any of those 5 would have given us something where Clarkson and Hood pretty much gave us nothing. Even George Hill gave us so little in most of the playoffs last year. It probably wouldn't have made a difference to the end result but we lack versatility last year.

I agree our young guys have a long way to go but it doesn't mean none of them could have helped. Our team last year was a far cry from the 2016 team.
 
I never said anything about replacing JR. I just think any of those 5 would have given us something where Clarkson and Hood pretty much gave us nothing. Even George Hill gave us so little in most of the playoffs last year. It probably wouldn't have made a difference to the end result but we lack versatility last year.

I agree our young guys have a long way to go but it doesn't mean none of them could have helped. Our team last year was a far cry from the 2016 team.

I wish that I agreed with you about our young players, but I don't see it.

Mozgov was exposed as fool's gold in 2015. Zizic is nowhere near where Mozgov was.

Cedi and Collin are just too raw. As impressive as Collin has been offensively and with some nice steals - this was late in the year when teams were not taking us seriously.

Nwabz and Knight - meh.

The problem is in the playoffs you are facing a team focused 100% on you. Also, playoff experience matters, and defense really matters.

I thought the Daugherty - Nance - Price - Hot Rod - Harper Cavaliers would get rings. So did a bunch of people around the league. But we just weren't good enough even with all that talent.

Other than Kevin I dont think we have a player on our team at the level of any of those Cavaliers listed. Not yet at least.
 
I wish that I agreed with you about our young players, but I don't see it.

Mozgov was exposed as fool's gold in 2015. Zizic is nowhere near where Mozgov was.

Cedi and Collin are just too raw. As impressive as Collin has been offensively and with some nice steals - this was late in the year when teams were not taking us seriously.

Nwabz and Knight - meh.

The problem is in the playoffs you are facing a team focused 100% on you. Also, playoff experience matters, and defense really matters.

I thought the Daugherty - Nance - Price - Hot Rod - Harper Cavaliers would get rings. So did a bunch of people around the league. But we just weren't good enough even with all that talent.

Other than Kevin I dont think we have a player on our team at the level of any of those Cavaliers listed. Not yet at least.

What @Cavatt and me are saying isn't that they would have been replacements or starters. They would have been necessary depth that we lacked. LBJ carried us last year and played 45 minutes a game in the finals. I just think any help would have been better than what we had off the bench.
 
I wish that I agreed with you about our young players, but I don't see it.

Mozgov was exposed as fool's gold in 2015. Zizic is nowhere near where Mozgov was.

Cedi and Collin are just too raw. As impressive as Collin has been offensively and with some nice steals - this was late in the year when teams were not taking us seriously.

Nwabz and Knight - meh.

The problem is in the playoffs you are facing a team focused 100% on you. Also, playoff experience matters, and defense really matters.

I thought the Daugherty - Nance - Price - Hot Rod - Harper Cavaliers would get rings. So did a bunch of people around the league. But we just weren't good enough even with all that talent.

Other than Kevin I dont think we have a player on our team at the level of any of those Cavaliers listed. Not yet at least.

Love, Sexton, TT sort of Osman (maybe?). Maybe Henson?

I don't know, not a ton of "NBA starter-level-on-a-good-team" talent. But what do you expect? You need a draft or two to re-stock, you need to shed the bad contracts, and then you need to re-tool.

Will be interesting to see if the Cavs leverage their expiring contracts at the deadline next year, or take the cap room.
 
Collin with his first (edit: points/assists) double-double - 18 points, 10 assists. Two or three of those were from feeding Frye at the end of the game.
 
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Collin with his first double-double - 18 points, 10 assists. Tow or three of those was feeding Frye at the end of the game.
Didn’t he have a double-double already earlier in the season? Anyways, yes, he impressed me as well and even though he was 1 of 7 from 3 tonight, he still has a 40.2% 3pts. Ended the season on a high note and you know he will be looking to get better. Hope we get to see him in Summer League.
 
Didn’t he have a double-double already earlier in the season? Anyways, yes, he impressed me as well and even though he was 1 of 7 from 3 tonight, he still has a 40.2% 3pts. Ended the season on a high note and you know he will be looking to get better. Hope we get to see him in Summer League.

He did have a double double with points and rebounds. This is his first double double with points and assists.
 
So I thought a couple of things were interesting tonight about Collin's game tonight. He was cut off a lot on his drives, more than he had been in at least a dozen games. Here want getting everywhere he wanted, but the pass was there because they were selling out on him. He found the open man several times and he had some passes he usually doesn't make, but sometimes they also aren't there because he is facing single coverage.

It also sounded like from the interviews that last had been challenging Collin to make the right decision as to when to pass. Collin was glad to make Drew happy. Larry said Collin asked to make that last pass to Channing to get 10 assists. I think if Collin can really choose to be more of a facilitator his ceiling just went up. A game like this showed you how well he can read plays and that he can see his teammates if he gets trapped like they were playing him tonight. I was worried as much as the next guy earlier on that he had very little playmaking ability. He had some vision.

Last thing some of his passes are pretty sloppy. He needs to make a cleaner pass into the post and over the pick and roll. He hasn't really connected on any oops in awhile. To be fair it's usually limp hands Kriss on the receiving end of those . Point is, he can clean those passes up. That is something that improves more than vision. I think it is part of why he had so many more assist opportunities than SGA and fewer conversions. SGA is a more natural and practiced passer. I think Collin can work on that conversion rate. If he focuses on playmaking like he did on shooting... I also hope they hang onto Delly at a lower number because I think he has been a good influence. Brandon Knight is not a pg. Get him or Clarkson gone
 
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Proud of you Collin this year in improving your game and converted over 40 percent of 3s when you did not have a consistent outside shot before. Looking forward to offseason and how you will change and adapt.
 
I think if Collin can really choose to be more of a facilitator his ceiling just went up.

This comment is a perfect example of why I think "ceiling" is an illusion.

Ok, we all know he's not going to be 6-5. But we have no idea how much he can improve as a basketball player.

We do know that he can improve a LOT based on what we saw from October to April. But what's his limit? Who knows?

As the post above says, his ceiling goes up if he chooses to be a facilitator. Well it isn't really a ceiling at all, is it?

As fans it's much better if we shitcan the ceiling idea and just enjoy watching him develop. Maybe he progresses no further. Maybe he becomes a 28-8 player with a couple of steals a game. The great part is we don't know - but it will be fun watching him going at it. Best part is he's got Delly to help him bust his ass.
 

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