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Columbus wants NBA team
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Yeah, hockey and basketball franchises usually compete with each other for expendable income moreso than sports that do not overlap in their seasons, such as baseball and football. Plus Buckeye basketball sort of has a stranglehold on basketball fans the way Pitt basketball combines with Penguins hockey to prevent Pittsburgh from fielding NBA plans.
Columbus isn't the best target for a hoops franchise. Vegas, San Diego, even Louisville make more sense.
Columbus isn't the best target for a hoops franchise. Vegas, San Diego, even Louisville make more sense.
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I would say college sports are big here in Atlanta. Athens, UGA, is about a little over an hour away and Georgia Tech is downtown. Utah also has the Utes in Salt Lake City. The one thing the NBA has done in the past has been to try and go in small markets. San Antonio, Utah, OKC, Sacramento, Portland, Memphis, and Orlando are markets that have only one pro sport team (NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB). I know there has been some talk that Vancouver has sought the idea of getting a NBA team back.
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Louisville would be a horrible NBA city Kentucky is all college basketball and the casino's would never allow a pro team in Las Vegas. Not sure about San Diego.
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Vegas has been discussed quite a bit in the NFL and NBA. Louisville or Lexington would be interesting just because they are hoops crazy and do not have any pro franchises in any sport, much like Carolina when the NBA expanded. San Diego is one of the largest markets in the US, but they already have the Clippers and Lakers in driving distance.
Jerzy makes a good point about Vancouver getting a second try. They could draw from the now untapped Seattle market as well as Western Canada.
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I think in a State like Ohio it is silly to have two NBA teams in such close proximity to each other like in Cleveland and Columbus. Bad for business.
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It would be stupid to put an nba team here. If the league were stupid enough to put two team in Ohio, it would be Cinci and Cleveland. It would make more sense to do baltimore, and is still borderline brain dead.
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The Wizards seem to have the Baltimore/Virginia area tapped, especially if they went back to being as good as they were in the late 70s / early 80s.
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The Kentucky Colonels based out of Louisville had a rabid fan base and their attendance was tops in the ABA. They should already have an NBA Team but the NBa was scared of them. Actually it was beleived that the pacers would be a more lucrative market by the NBA.
As far as Columbus having a Hockey team that directly competes for fan dollars (since a shared arena means they wouldnt be playing the same nights) . Boston, Chicago, LA, Washington, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Dallas, New Jersey, New York. Toronto, Phoenix, Detroit. plus a feww more all have basketball and hockey.
The Mayor wasnt really expecting t o write a letter and the Stern say okay heres your franchise. Any NBA expansion would be years down the road if it ever happened. However one wold expect the D league to be expanding. Columbus might be a good spot for such a thing. Its a shame that Gilbert didnt put his own d league team in Columbus.
As far as Columbus having a Hockey team that directly competes for fan dollars (since a shared arena means they wouldnt be playing the same nights) . Boston, Chicago, LA, Washington, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Dallas, New Jersey, New York. Toronto, Phoenix, Detroit. plus a feww more all have basketball and hockey.
The Mayor wasnt really expecting t o write a letter and the Stern say okay heres your franchise. Any NBA expansion would be years down the road if it ever happened. However one wold expect the D league to be expanding. Columbus might be a good spot for such a thing. Its a shame that Gilbert didnt put his own d league team in Columbus.
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I mean no disrespect to Columbus but... have you been to those other cities? They dwarf C-bus.
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Dwarf seems like a strong word considering Columbus is #15 in population according to the 2010 Census; Cleveland is #45 & Minneapolis is #49. I also included other cities with a NBA franchise and Seattle.
1 New York City NY - 8,175,133
2 Los Angeles CA - 3,792,621
3 Chicago IL - 2,695,598
4 Houston TX - 2,099,451
5 Philadelphia PA - 1,526,006
6 Phoenix AZ - 1,445,632
7 San Antonio TX - 1,327,407
9 Dallas TX - 1,197,816
12 Indianapolis IN - 820,445
13 San Francisco CA - 805,235
15 Columbus OH - 787,033
17 Charlotte NC - 731,424
18 Detroit MI - 713,777
20 Memphis TN - 646,889
22 Boston MA - 617,594
23 Seattle WA - 608,660
24 Washington D.C. - 601,723
26 Denver CO - 600,158
28 Milwaukee WI - 594,833
29 Portland OR - 583,776
31 Oklahoma City OK - 579,999
35 Sacramento CA - 466,488
40 Atlanta GA - 420,003
44 Miami FL - 399,457
45 Cleveland OH - 396,815
49 Minneapolis MI - 382,578
53 New Orleans LA - 343,829
79 Orlando FL - 238,300
Columbus continues to grow in population each year; while others like Cleveland sadly continue to shrink.
Cleveland
2000 (478,403)
2010 (396,815)
Change (-17.1%)
Columbus
2000 (711,470)
2010 (787,033)
Change (+10.6%)
Ohio State and the location of major league sports teams in Ohio is probably the best argument for Columbus not having a team. Columbus certainly has the population requirement and continues to show strong signs of growth.
I still think it would be great for Cleveland to play a few home games a year down in Columbus. So many people have moved from northern Ohio to Columbus and would love to be able to see their team play inperson without making a big trip out of it. They could even be weekday games and I'm sure they would sellout.
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Yeah... I asked if you have been to those cities. If all of New Jersey can juggle a hockey team and a basketball team... can Columbus do it without encroaching on Cleveland's territory? Columbus draws its city lines like Roseanne Barr draws the strings to her sweatpants. Indianapolis does the same... hoping you don't go to other cities to see the difference between a rural city and an urban city. Those other cities just feel different. It's people concentrated into a smaller space. It's a concentration that could support two sports, and do, because there is a suburb outside of that number.
Television markets are a much more accurate measure because of the general fuzziness of city lines:
http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets
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Columbus is still the third largest metro area in the state - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
Cleveland just has a larger region to draw from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Combined_Statistical_Areas
Cleveland just has a larger region to draw from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Combined_Statistical_Areas