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Cops: Chiefs player kills woman, self

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Stop arguing about each other and start discussing the issue, if anything. Everyone is entitled to their opinion based on the limited facts we know.

This is horrific on many levels. The issue here is what drives people to do things like this. Why? What and why. Not HOW they did it, but why. What leads a person to do something like this. Call it cowardly, call it whatever; it's a situation that involves a human being...like each and every one of us. I hope no one ever thinks about committing suicide, but if you EVER have or have any humility at all, you really hate to see things like this happen.

Agree, except for this. The similarities between me and him stop at human being. No normal human being would do this and I don't consider psychopaths and murderers my equals. I feel for the families, the girlfriend, the child who will never know the parents, and the people who witnessed the event, not for the guy who stooped to the level of taking someone's life and ruining many others before taking his own.
 
It's one thing to commit suicide, you take it to another level when you take someone else with you. That's the cowardly thing about this action, especially in front of the woman's mother and maybe the daughter too?

It's a good thing the daughter is so young as she won't have any recollection of that traumatic event that the mother will relive everyday for the rest of her life.
 
Why the hell would they do a tribute? Entirely too early for the NFL or the team to do anything but ask for a moment of silence.

Too early? They should NEVER do a tribute for a murderer...
 
Agree, except for this. The similarities between me and him stop at human being. No normal human being would do this and I don't consider psychopaths and murderers my equals. I feel for the families, the girlfriend, the child who will never know the parents, and the people who witnessed the event, not for the guy who stooped to the level of taking someone's life and ruining many others before taking his own.

You actually delve onto a very interesting debate I had the other week. It started off with a question I posed to someone at a party (it wasn't random, I swear): did you feel bad for Jeffry Dahmer, Ed Gein, or any other homicidal psychopath? The obvious answer is no, they're sub-human, they deserve to get the worst of the worst punishment.

My counter was what if their minds are so warped, that they had no idea what the difference between right & wrong, that they were so mentally fucked up that it was like they were a prisoner within their own body, that they literally & physically could not control their actions, no matter how hard they tried. What would you say then?

Not suggesting this is applicable to this situation, nor do I agree/disagree with the aforementioned theory, but it's an interesting take and something to ponder.
 
Too early? They should NEVER do a tribute for a murderer...

No shit. I meant in general, it's too early to respond in any fashion other than a moment of silence.
 
Well....I'm thinking all of that aside (the hypothetical) it still wouldn't change the fact he'd be a psycho murderer....so feeling bad for him would still be hard for me to do.

If you want to think that he could be "changed" and maybe end up not committing his crimes...well.....that's fine. No way to know that.
 
Well....I'm thinking all of that aside (the hypothetical) it still wouldn't change the fact he'd be a psycho murderer....so feeling bad for him would still be hard for me to do.

Not necessarily feel bad (poor choice or words I suppose). But imagine if something took over your mind and you were imprisoned in your own body. Again, not suggesting that's the case here or with the Gein/Dahmer.

EDIT: Our general conclusion was they were put out of their misery, regardless of their intentions (i.e. if they were of sound mind or if they were completely detached from the universe)
 
Where is the line?

Are we obligated to feel some sense of sorrow for all criminals under the basis that they don't understand right from wrong?
 
Where is the line?

Are we obligated to feel some sense of sorrow for all criminals under the basis that they don't understand right from wrong?

There's the problem. I see a lot of that "monday morning armchair quarterback" thing goin' on. I'm almost certain that things would change, for most or all of us, if we were put into the exact same situation. If it were one of our loved ones....your heart would not be bleeding in the same way it would from hearing a story. But then again, who knows.
 
Not necessarily feel bad (poor choice or words I suppose). But imagine if something took over your mind and you were imprisoned in your own body. Again, not suggesting that's the case here or with the Gein/Dahmer.

EDIT: Our general conclusion was they were put out of their misery, regardless of their intentions (i.e. if they were of sound mind or if they were completely detached from the universe)

Imagine if that was your daughter, sister, or relative that got shot multiple times, so bad that it may also be a closed coffin.
 
I feel horrible for Romeo. I'm not entirely sure he knew he had just murdered someone but that takes a lot of guts either way.

Why should I feel more bad for this guy and his family than other tragic events that happen everyday? I shouldn't. I feel bad for the kid but I'm sure he'll be taken care of financially.

There's kids who have no parents and don't have a pot to piss in and will spend their entire lives moving from group home to group home. This is just a bizarre story because he did this at the facility in front of prominent people.
 
Imagine if that was your daughter, sister, or relative that got shot multiple times, so bad that it may also be a closed coffin.

Jesus christ, I give up.

And of course I would be upset, so upset that I would want to kill the person who did it. That's besides the point & wasn't even asked.
 
Jesus christ, I give up.

And of course I would be upset, so upset that I would want to kill the person who did it. That's besides the point & wasn't even asked.

It must be nice to know Damage, that whenever you argue with someone on RCF, that you are 100% always right , and everyone else is wrong.
 
Killing yourself is the most selfish thing a person can do.
 
Killing yourself is the most selfish thing a person can do.

True

And to touch on the "going to hell" comment. Suicide is the only thing that guarantees someone a place in hell, according to Christianity and I'm assuming Islam and Judaism.
 

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