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D Wade.... Even more reason to hate him and the heat.

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All this chirping and F bombing from a fanbase that adored and defended the likes of Albert Belle to the bitter end... cmon guys, put the soapboxes away.

So Dwayne Wade is a dirty player? Since when and stop the presses?! Fact is, if he wore Cleveland Wine and Gold, you'd all worship him.
 
All this chirping and F bombing from a fanbase that adored and defended the likes of Albert Belle to the bitter end... cmon guys, put the soapboxes away.

So Dwayne Wade is a dirty player? Since when and stop the presses?! Fact is, if he wore Cleveland Wine and Gold, you'd all worship him.

And then we threw pennies and batteries at Albert Belle. Your point?

Wade has always been a dirty player. Became obviously clear when he took Rondo down that year in the playoffs.
 
I wouldnt go as far as calling him a dirty player (YMMV), but he is a hot head. Sometimes to the detriment to his team. His "taking the law into his own hands" is borderline reckless. That play vs Indy was dangerous. The plays vs Kobe and Rondo were physical plays no doubt, but they're made to look worse because of injuries occuring to the players. The play vs Sessions was 50/50. If you hate Wade you see it as a premeditated kick to the 'nads if you're pro Wade you see an accident.

There is no question in my mind that he was hit on the Milwaukee play. There aren't enough angles to come to conclusive visual proof either way, but human nature tends to have me believe that a person doesnt react THAT demonstratively if they're faking. Flopped and flailed? yes. Rant and rave? Nope.

And this talk of him going all Space Jam and losing his talent is a little bit foolish. Its like the Dirk can't lead a team to a chip and LeBron isnt clutch and is Robin? bla bla bla. Is he the Wade fresh out of Marquette no. He's the Wade coming off a surgery and in a totally different role than his younger self.
 
All this chirping and F bombing from a fanbase that adored and defended the likes of Albert Belle to the bitter end... cmon guys, put the soapboxes away.

So Dwayne Wade is a dirty player? Since when and stop the presses?! Fact is, if he wore Cleveland Wine and Gold, you'd all worship him.

True, we may perhaps worship him. But we will still acknowledge that he is a dirty player.
 
All this chirping and F bombing from a fanbase that adored and defended the likes of Albert Belle to the bitter end... cmon guys, put the soapboxes away.

So Dwayne Wade is a dirty player? Since when and stop the presses?! Fact is, if he wore Cleveland Wine and Gold, you'd all worship him.

I never liked LeBron James and said it on a regular basis. I met him and interacted with him a few times since he was in high school and he always rubbed me the wrong way. When I voiced my opinion of him while he was here, I was regularly called a "hater" and other things. I always rooted for the success of the Cavaliers and whomever was wearing the jersey, but I never supported LeBron or paid a cent for a jersey, shirt, shoes, etc with his name on it. I would treat Wade the same way if he was here. As for Albert Belle, I remember him being a jerk and cheating (corked bat), but I don't remember him being dirty. I'm the farthest thing from a baseball fan, so I don't know that situation for sure, but cheating is different than being dirty--and being dirty is FAR worse in my book.
 
So Dwayne Wade is a dirty player? Since when and stop the presses?! Fact is, if he wore Cleveland Wine and Gold, you'd all worship him.

This would go against garnett who people on here hate but i love. He plays with passions but get in your face, difference between him and wade is wade intentially tries to injure or hits players to injur KG has never done that. I would never support a player who did something like that to rondo and george hill never
 
I wouldnt go as far as calling him a dirty player (YMMV), but he is a hot head. Sometimes to the detriment to his team. His "taking the law into his own hands" is borderline reckless. That play vs Indy was dangerous. The plays vs Kobe and Rondo were physical plays no doubt, but they're made to look worse because of injuries occuring to the players. The play vs Sessions was 50/50. If you hate Wade you see it as a premeditated kick to the 'nads if you're pro Wade you see an accident.

There is no question in my mind that he was hit on the Milwaukee play. There aren't enough angles to come to conclusive visual proof either way, but human nature tends to have me believe that a person doesnt react THAT demonstratively if they're faking. Flopped and flailed? yes. Rant and rave? Nope.

And this talk of him going all Space Jam and losing his talent is a little bit foolish. Its like the Dirk can't lead a team to a chip and LeBron isnt clutch and is Robin? bla bla bla. Is he the Wade fresh out of Marquette no. He's the Wade coming off a surgery and in a totally different role than his younger self.

D-Wade is absolutely dirty. To say the play on Rondo wasn't "dirty" shows bias. The guy was frustrated the ball had just been picked from him, and he retaliated with the same sense of entitlement he always seems to. The thing about D-Wade, is he routinely punishes players for doing things to him he doesn't like. If you steal the ball from him, he lowers a shoulder on the other end. If you foul him hard, he goes harder on another play later in the game. The guy is constantly sending messages. Some may say that is hard basketball, but he goes too far. The play on Rondo is the perfect example....a completely needless take down of a guy who weighs 50 lbs less.

And the worst part is, the guy is the ultimate flopper. Might be the biggest flopper in the NBA. So not only is he dirty as hell, but he then draws ridiculous fouls and is constantly trying to deceive officials. The guy is basically the epitome of what basketball should not be...

This is one of the dirtiest plays I have ever seen outside of Rudy T being blindsided. You can say he wasn't trying to dislocate an arm, but the intent was to send a message to Rondo about poking the ball away. Rondo and other NBA players are supposed to take note that you don't do this to him otherwise be prepared....
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Is Dwyane Wade a dirty player?
December, 27, 2012
Dec 274:16PM ET By Brian Windhorst
ESPN.com
Archive Recommend450Tweet396Comments1KEmailPrintDwyane Wade has two championship rings, an Olympic gold medal, a Finals MVP award, eight All-Star appearances, a portfolio of endorsement deals from Switzerland to China, an acclaimed book on fatherhood, a renowned fashion sense and the adulation of millions of NBA fans across the world.

But his reputation within the league itself may not be in such good shape.

A series of questionable plays over the past two years seem to have harmed Wade’s stature among his peers. Some, such as well-known adversary Rajon Rondo, said Wade is guilty of “dirty plays.”

The latest is Charlotte Bobcats guard Ramon Sessions. Wade kicked Sessions in the groin area after Sessions committed a reach-in foul on Wade during the Miami Heat’s 105-92 win Wednesday night. Wade claimed it was inadvertent.

“I thought he did it on purpose,” Sessions told reporters after the game.

Wade was not called for a foul, but the league suspended him for a game the following day.

Standing alone, this is just another testy moment in a game that was tight at the time. But looking at Wade’s actions over the past few seasons, it is part of a case file that is building and increasingly getting him unsavory attention.

Here are the most memorable incidents:

• During a game in Boston in the 2011 regular season, Wade was hit with a flagrant foul for shoving Kevin Garnett after Garnett had leveled Mike Miller with a screen.

• In the 2011 playoffs, Wade got wrapped up with Rondo while going for a loose ball. After Rondo elbowed Wade, he appeared to stick his leg out and sweep Rondo to the court. It resulted in Rondo dislocating his elbow. At the time, Wade said it was inadvertent.

• Wade broke Kobe Bryant’s nose, raking him from behind during an unusual physical play during the 2012 All-Star Game. Bryant had fouled Wade twice previously in the game.

• During a regular-season game last April in Miami, Wade threw a forearm at Chicago Bulls guard Rip Hamilton after Hamilton bumped him trying to create space on the perimeter. Wade was called for a flagrant foul.

• During the first round of the playoffs last season, Wade threw the shoe of New York Knicks guard Mike Bibby off the court after Bibby lost it getting a rebound.

• During the second round of the playoffs, Wade blindsided Indiana Pacers guard Darren Collison on a fast break. Wade, who seemed to be reacting to not getting a shooting foul moments earlier, was assessed a flagrant foul.

Often, it has seemed Wade is caught reacting. A hard Garnett screen, a Rondo elbow, a foul or, in many cases, frustration at officials. Wade is an emotional player, and at times those emotions may push him over the line.

During a playoff game last May in Indianapolis, for example, Wade got into a heated exchange with coach Erik Spoelstra on the bench during a timeout after Spoelstra questioned Wade’s play.

In a recent interview with ESPN’s Israel Gutierrez about his recovery from knee surgery, Wade talked about how anger can help his lift during a game.

“Even though I might not get as high as I did when I was a rookie, I can still get over the rim when need be -- especially when I get angry,” Wade said.

Especially over the past few seasons, Wade’s anger has often been manifested in bouts with officials. He has become one of the league’s most constant complainers. Wade has occasionally been guilty of not getting back on defense because he’s allowed himself to be delayed to complain about non-calls. On Christmas Day, as he was on his way to the locker room to get treatment after a minor leg injury, Wade stopped to complain to officials about not drawing a foul on the previous play.

Like with the questionable fouls, Wade often stops short of being aggressive enough to draw discipline.

All of this is unbecoming of Wade’s stature in the game. He did not behave like this during the early years of his career as he soared in popularity and earned the respect of the league. As he’s become a veteran, his personality has appeared to change somewhat on the floor.

In that way, he has been compared by some league executives to Garnett, whose trash-talking and menacing have come to define the later stages of his career. This is not endearing to Garnett, though he’s never seemed to care whatsoever.

That is not the case for Wade, who has always valued his reputation as someone who sets an example. The one he’s been setting with this spate of incidents is not fashionable at all.
 
It was pretty blatant. The guy thinks he is the end all, be all in the league. At least LBJ learned when to keep to himself.
 
D-Wade is absolutely dirty. To say they play on Rondo wasn't "dirty" shows bias. The guy was frustrated the ball had just been picked from him, and he retaliated with the same sense of entitlement he always seems to. The thing about D-Wade, is he routinely punishes players for doing things to him he doesn't like. If you steal the ball from him, he lowers a shoulder on the other end. If you foul him hard, he goes harder on another play later in the game. The guy is constantly sending messages. Some may say that is hard basketball, but he goes too far. The play on Rondo is the perfect example....a completely needless take down of a guy who weighs 50 lbs less.

And the worst part is, the guy is the ultimate flopper. Might be the biggest flopper in the NBA. So not only is he dirty as hell, but he then draws ridiculous fouls and is constantly trying to deceive officials. The guy is basically the epitome of what basketball should not be...

Not biased at all. I have no connection to Dwyane Wade that would prevent me from speaking honestly about him. As I said the play vs Collinson was very much reckless and unjustified. The play vs Rondo is only remembered because he suffered a freak injury on the play. Same thing with the ASG play on Kobe. They were fouls that unfortunately resulted in a player being injured. I dont consider that dirty....unfortunate and "bantha fodder" for the anti-Wade people.
 
Not biased at all. I have no connection to Dwyane Wade that would prevent me from speaking honestly about him. As I said the play vs Collinson was very much reckless and unjustified. The play vs Rondo is only remembered because he suffered a freak injury on the play. Same thing with the ASG play on Kobe. They were fouls that unfortunately resulted in a player being injured. I dont consider that dirty....unfortunate and "bantha fodder" for the anti-Wade people.

I usually respect and understand your bias opinions of Wade and LBJ, but it's pretty obvious and undeniable that he looses his cool and gets dirty quite often...
 
Not biased at all. I have no connection to Dwyane Wade that would prevent me from speaking honestly about him. As I said the play vs Collinson was very much reckless and unjustified. The play vs Rondo is only remembered because he suffered a freak injury on the play. Same thing with the ASG play on Kobe. They were fouls that unfortunately resulted in a player being injured. I dont consider that dirty....unfortunate and "bantha fodder" for the anti-Wade people.

[video=youtube;l_QDViW_2s8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l_QDViW_2s8[/video]

To grab Rondo after the play was over, aim high with his arm, while using a karate sweep low, wouldn't really be considered "bantha fodder" to most. To most that is considered dirty.
 
This would go against garnett who people on here hate but i love. He plays with passions but get in your face, difference between him and wade is wade intentially tries to injure or hits players to injur KG has never done that. I would never support a player who did something like that to rondo and george hill never

I seem to remember KG elbowing someone in the head... Isn't that dirty? Artest got suspended for 7 (playoff) games, I don't think KG got one.
 
Kicking Ramon in the "groin" seems like more of a statement, perhaps regarding something else that went on. It's very "old school" to punk an opposing players after a whistle. Intimidation is something the Cavs have always lacked. I don't regret it, but I think Austin wishes we had someone like Wade on the team who'd give the other team something else to think about.
 

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