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I saw enough in the summer league and preseason that leads me to believe the guy knows what he is doing and understands the game.

We just need to be patient, the schedule is ridiculously tough here out of the gate and we are trying to integrate a bunch of ball-dominant star players into an entirely new offensive and defensive system.

If after 20-25 games we still look like shit, then it might be time to seriously question his coaching.
 
Serious question. Is Blatt scared to coach anybody not named Dion Waiters?

We're too early in to tell but I'm having the same concerns. Blatt seemed to thrive on coaching a group of guys that were more or less of an even-level of talent across the board. The bench guys could more than adequately cover the production of the starters and there was no reliance on 1 or 2 players to bail out a play.

My concern is that Blatt is ignoring swift ball movement in favor of isolating plays for the 'stars' and veterans of the team. I wonder how Blatt might've coached the team over the last 4 years if he had the gig before all these players arrived. Something tells me he might've been more partial to that kind of challenge.
 
Didn't dion get benched because he gave up 2 straight line drives to the bucket on successive plays by closing up way too tight and out of position. I'm assuming this is a point of emphasis that he was told to stop doing and he didn't.

My main concern is not blatt, it's lues defensive system, it needs to be more conservative, we don't have the individual defenders or discipline to be able to hard hedge all screens, zone up the weak side and recover to shooters, which is why our opposition at the moment can run their offense way to o easy. Or they stick to their guns and weather the storm which will be a .500 November record at best
 
israelis show yourselves!

u promised us wins! genius! ball movement!

Almost every year of his career Blatt has embarrassing losses/losing streaks early in the season, and heard calls for his head. Almost every year he has ended up with a title. Give him time.
 
We're too early in to tell but I'm having the same concerns. Blatt seemed to thrive on coaching a group of guys that were more or less of an even-level of talent across the board. The bench guys could more than adequately cover the production of the starters and there was no reliance on 1 or 2 players to bail out a play.

My concern is that Blatt is ignoring swift ball movement in favor of isolating plays for the 'stars' and veterans of the team. I wonder how Blatt might've coached the team over the last 4 years if he had the gig before all these players arrived. Something tells me he might've been more partial to that kind of challenge.

Everything you mention here goes against everything that Blatt stands for.

What is more likely "blatt thrived coaching equally talented players, and now is relying on 1 on 1 ball" Or the fact that we have a brand new system and players are reverting to old habits early in the season when things aren't clicking?

Occam's razor
 
Serious question. Are you going to comment on anything not related to defending Dion or without bringing him up in every post ?

How am I defending Dion? Read the fucking post.

I acknowledge that Dion has looked bad thus far into the season and that Blatt's handling of him (subbing him out after mistakes, limiting his minutes) is warranted. However, Dion isn't the only guy on our team that has looked bad or needed coaching. LeBron and Kyrie (especially Kyrie) have had terrible stretches of basketball but I haven't seen Blatt sub out and coach either player thus far.

The only person Blatt isn't afraid to confront and coach seems to be Dion and that's a problem. Kyrie's play has actually gotten worse since the season started (in terms of keeping the ball moving, getting others involved, and picking his spots).

This team won't succeed if Blatt is only brave enough to coach Dion. He needs to lay into the other stars of the team as well.
 
You think playing Miller and Marion over Dion at SG is more conducive to winning now? Because I sure as hell don't.

And to be honest I have no problem with Dion playing 11 minutes if the goal is for development and breaking bad habits. I do have a problem when Blatt does this only to Dion though as if he's the only whose play has been troubling so far. Kyrie plays like shit and overdribbles all the time and Blatt doesn't seem to do much of anything to let him know he's not playing within the offense.

We can bitch about Kyrie's play all day but if he's still seeing upwards of 40 minutes a night Blatt is seemingly rewarding his bad play. Take him out, coach him up, and break these bad habits. That's what Kyrie and Dion both need right now.

Both Kyrie and Lebron look better when Dion is out of the game right now. Rchfld has talked about this for two years, but Kyrie doesn't look good next to Waiters. So if Marion is giving you nothing but Kyrie gives you something and Dion is giving you nothing and Kyrie is also giving you nothing then which situation seems better for the team?

Look, I wanted a Dion+Kyrie backcourt to work, but we've seen nothing so far in two plus years to make me think it will. If Kyrie is more comfortable with Dion out of the game then the only way Dion should start is if he actually starts producing at a high level. But as long as he's shooting 40% and below? He belongs on the bench.
 
How am I defending Dion? Read the fucking post.

I acknowledge that Dion has looked bad thus far into the season and that Blatt's handling of him (subbing him out after mistakes, limiting his minutes) is warranted. However, Dion isn't the only guy on our team that has looked bad or needed coaching. LeBron and Kyrie (especially Kyrie) have had terrible stretches of basketball but I haven't seen Blatt sub out and coach either player thus far.

The only person Blatt isn't afraid to confront and coach seems to be Dion and that's a problem. Kyrie's play has actually gotten worse since the season started (in terms of keeping the ball moving, getting others involved, and picking his spots).

This team won't succeed if Blatt is only brave enough to coach Dion. He needs to lay into the other stars of the team as well.

It is obvious why every coach has felt comfortable enough to "coach" Dion. If Kyrie did everything at the level Dion did and had his attitude it would be the same thing.

Dion whines to officials, mopes, does little to nothing off the ball all while being a very average player. The things Dion does you only get away with if you are an all-star level talent. Not saying its fair but that is the way it is. Dion thinks he is a lot better than he is.
 
How am I defending Dion? Read the fucking post.

I acknowledge that Dion has looked bad thus far into the season and that Blatt's handling of him (subbing him out after mistakes, limiting his minutes) is warranted. However, Dion isn't the only guy on our team that has looked bad or needed coaching. LeBron and Kyrie (especially Kyrie) have had terrible stretches of basketball but I haven't seen Blatt sub out and coach either player thus far.

The only person Blatt isn't afraid to confront and coach seems to be Dion and that's a problem. Kyrie's play has actually gotten worse since the season started (in terms of keeping the ball moving, getting others involved, and picking his spots).

This team won't succeed if Blatt is only brave enough to coach Dion. He needs to lay into the other stars of the team as well.

This was the same complaint people had about Brown. Maybe it's time to admit there might be something more to it than just being afraid of coaching the teams star? Maybe Dion mouths of more, mopes in practice more and is generally just more hard-headed? Maybe the reason Dion gets punished more than Kyrie is because he actually deserves it? All we see are the things that happen in the game. But maybe it's time to start wondering if there is more to it than just their in game play?
 
I'm curious to see what caused Dion to barely make it to the bench by the time the game started tonight.
 
we are trying to integrate a bunch of ball-dominant star players into an entirely new offensive and defensive system.

it sounds nice and all, but how many minutes, timeouts, days off does it take to say' stop fucking doing iso bullshit and run the goddamn plays'?

are we actually integrating them into a new offensive system? it takes about one sentence to instruct a team to not play with the mindset we are playing with
 
This was the same complaint people had about Brown. Maybe it's time to admit there might be something more to it than just being afraid of coaching the teams star? Maybe Dion mouths of more, mopes in practice more and is generally just more hard-headed? Maybe the reason Dion gets punished more than Kyrie is because he actually deserves it? All we see are the things that happen in the game. But maybe it's time to start wondering if there is more to it than just their in game play?

In the NBA, it is all politics. Blatt is showing political weakness and it shows.
 
meh,
I'm from Israel aswell and how can you be so sure David is as good as you say he is?
meh??
I can answer your question seriously, but meh... I'd be rewarding a tone I'm not comfortable with... (did I use it right?)
 
Everything you mention here goes against everything that Blatt stands for.

What is more likely "blatt thrived coaching equally talented players, and now is relying on 1 on 1 ball" Or the fact that we have a brand new system and players are reverting to old habits early in the season when things aren't clicking?

Occam's razor

I absolutely hope it's the latter. Because from everything we've heard and seen, Blatt is supposed to be completely dissimilar to the coach I've described in my quote above. Thus my concern.

We're only 4 games in and therefore the panic should be limited. But these are still NBA-caliber players who don't seem to be executing even some of the more basic offensive sets.

And what's even more puzzling is they showed a number of flashes of genius ball usage in the preseason, and seemed to throw this all out the window for the regular season.
 
it sounds nice and all, but how many minutes, timeouts, days off does it take to say' stop fucking doing iso bullshit and run the goddamn plays'?

are we actually integrating them into a new offensive system? it takes about one sentence to instruct a team to not play with the mindset we are playing with

Well, we've seen for 3 years now that a certain someone doesn't take kindly to coaching and constantly breaks off plays. I've got no doubt that Blatt, like Brown and Scott before him, have told Kyrie to stop the ISO stuff and he just ignores them or, after listening for a little bit, reverts back to it.
 
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