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Griff is the man but he needs to chill
Winning three titles as the underdog is a big part of the Kings resume
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So long, David Griffin
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Griff is the man but he needs to chill
Winning three titles as the underdog is a big part of the Kings resume
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This is completely how I see it, too.
Kevin and Kyrie are injured, so them sitting out this game should've been expected.
So really, LeBron resting is the only thing the league can be angry at, but all everyone from the media does is bitch and point and laugh about how high LeBron's minutes are. Then, when we actually rest him, they jump on the Cavs for resting LeBron and disrespecting fans. Fuck 'em.
I like it. They were only going to play one of the two LA games, play the one that is a lock win. If we burnt LeBron and still lost to the Clippers, we'd all be sick about it.
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Had the lakers been scheduled first and the clippers second. The Cavs would of done the same thing except perhaps play LeBron.
like Griffin mentioned only one of the three were actually healthy. give them another day rest and let them play at home.
They might hold Kyrie out again tonight for all we know.
like Griffin mentioned only one of the three were actually healthy. give them another day rest and let them play at home.
They might hold Kyrie out again tonight for all we know.
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Fuck the NBA. It's their fault with the scheduling, and they could care less about the players.
Lengthen the season more, as they're doing next year, and things will fix themselves.
The NBA only cares about money. Windy says that over and over again, and he's 100% right.
LeBron has an insane amount of minutes on his body. He's been to 6 straight Finals.
Again, screw the NBA. And way to go, Griffin!
Lengthen the season more, as they're doing next year, and things will fix themselves.
The NBA only cares about money. Windy says that over and over again, and he's 100% right.
LeBron has an insane amount of minutes on his body. He's been to 6 straight Finals.
Again, screw the NBA. And way to go, Griffin!
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After that phone call we should rest players on national tv untiil the end of regular season.
F*** them.
F*** them.
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Why didn’t anyone on that shitty broadcast last night mention when they showed that idiotic Karl Malone quote that Kyrie hurt himself last game, Love wasn’t cleared for B2B games yet and LeBron has over 10 years of experience? It was biased as hell and unfair.
Hearing 3 straight hours of bitching from that ESPN crew was unbearable.
Hearing 3 straight hours of bitching from that ESPN crew was unbearable.
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Why are you spending 3 straight hours watching ESPN? Do you work at Penn Station?
I feel like the league is reaching some kind of breakdown point with trying to combine the modern game with this ridiculous setup of an 82 game schedule + half the league getting into the playoffs anyway. I mean, it just makes no rational sense to burn out your stars playing back to backs in the regular season when an injury to a single player could ruin your title chances, and when seeding doesn't matter very much if you have your stars healthy.
Once upon a time when teams routinely exerted a whole lot less defensive effort, players were less athletic, and owners weren't banking hundreds of millions on a narrow title window this kind of thing might have kind of worked. But not these days. The league can scold all they want but that is not going to get owners and coaches to do stuff that is against their rational self-interest in winning a championship. I mean, everyone in the world saw when GS last year set the regular season win record and then became a laughingstock for blowing it in the Finals. Anyone in their right mind who didn't get that the regular season doesn't matter got it after seeing that.
They have to revisit the schedule and season length; yes they lose a little money that way but they will also lose money by not reliably having the best players playing regular season games.
Once upon a time when teams routinely exerted a whole lot less defensive effort, players were less athletic, and owners weren't banking hundreds of millions on a narrow title window this kind of thing might have kind of worked. But not these days. The league can scold all they want but that is not going to get owners and coaches to do stuff that is against their rational self-interest in winning a championship. I mean, everyone in the world saw when GS last year set the regular season win record and then became a laughingstock for blowing it in the Finals. Anyone in their right mind who didn't get that the regular season doesn't matter got it after seeing that.
They have to revisit the schedule and season length; yes they lose a little money that way but they will also lose money by not reliably having the best players playing regular season games.
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Cavs GM David Griffin gets endorsement from LeBron James
Dave McMenamin
ESPN Staff Writer
CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Cavaliers' biggest impending free agent might not even wear a uniform.
Cavs general manager David Griffin has been operating this season on the final year of his contract after failing to come to an agreement on an extension with ownership this past offseason, multiple sources told ESPN.
Griffin has presided over the team signing LeBron James, trading for Kevin Love and making two straight NBA Finals appearances -- the second resulting in the first championship for the city of Cleveland in 52 years -- since he was elevated from the Cavs' acting general manager following the dismissal of Chris Grant, to head GM in May 2014.
While doling out contract extensions to much of the Cavs' core in the last two summers -- James, Love, Tristan Thompson, J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert and Richard Jefferson all inked multiyear deals totaling more than $395 million -- there has been no deal struck for Griffin himself. Cavs coach Tyronn Lue was also rewarded with a five-year, $35 million extension in July.
Some key voices inside the Cavaliers' locker room have spoken out in support of the GM, who has spent more than half his life working in the NBA after starting with the Phoenix Suns as an intern in 1993.
"It makes no sense why he shouldn't get an extension," James recently told ESPN. "He's pulled every move -- he's tried to make every move happen -- to better this team to be able to compete for a championship. So we wouldn't be in this position, obviously, without him and without the guys that are here -- from the coaching staff to the players to Griff. He's been a big piece of it."
James went on to rattle off the moves that Griffin implemented midseason during each of the past three years to give the Cavs a facelift.
"He went out, we needed some interior help, he went out and got Timo [Timofey Mozgov]," James told ESPN of the deal Griffin struck in January 2015. "We needed some perimeter defense, some perimeter shooting, he made a trade to be able to get Swish [J.R. Smith] and Shump [Shumpert]. And that was the start of it. We needed more interior depth, he got Perk [Kendrick Perkins]. We got guys. We brought guys in. We needed some more athletic wings, he made a move, I don't know how he finagled it to get RJ [Jefferson] here. And so on and so on ...
"I mean, all the guys that are here. We wanted a stretch-4 to help Kev out, we make a trade to get Channing [Frye]. I mean, I can name all the pieces that he's been able to [acquire]."
Lue, who shares agent Mark Carmony of CSE with Griffin, also recently spoke out about what the Cavs GM did this season to improve Cleveland on the fly.
"Griff's done a hell of a job," Lue said. "To acquire D-Will 2 [Derrick Williams], D-Will 1 [Deron Williams], [Kyle] Korver and [Andrew] Bogut without having any money, that's an amazing job. Griff's done a tremendous job. Every time someone goes down. Even last year, the year before when Timo and J.R. and those guys came in, he just always seems to work his magic when we need it and he's done a great job. Now it's my job to make sure I put everybody in the best possible way to be successful."
Griffin declined comment, and Carmony did not return several attempts by ESPN to contact him.
While having the benefit of the highest payroll in the league (north of $128 million) and the type of talent that wants to play for the Cavs, Cleveland's salary structure has caused Griffin to have to be creative in the margins. In Griffin's contract year, the GM has figured out a way to dump the salaries of injured players Mo Williams and Chris "Birdman" Andersen, while revamping the bench.
James acknowledged that Griffin's contract status mirrors the disrespect the GM has received because of the perception that James ultimately runs the franchise.
"Obviously they always want to bring my name into it and say that obviously, it's easier because guys want to be here because I'm here," James told ESPN. "But at the end of the day, he still has to press the right buttons because I'm not in the war room, I'm not in the draft room with those [front office] guys. I don't know how much we may be over the luxury tax or if we have a trade exception here or how that's going to work there or how many days we got to do this. So, it wouldn't, seriously, I don't know why it would make any sense to bring in a new GM. That don't make no sense."
While the Cavs have dominated the league with Griffin calling the shots -- save for their recent slump -- the GM has seen some of his peers be rewarded with contract extensions while he waits. When Griffin and the Cavs won the championship in 2016, they went through GM Masai Ujiri's Toronto Raptors in the Eastern Conference finals and GM Bob Myers' Golden State Warriors in the Finals. Ujiri signed a multiyear extension with Toronto in September, and the Warriors promoted Myers to the president of basketball operations while also signing him to an extension this past offseason.
In 2014-15, Griffin finished second to Myers for NBA executive of the year, which is voted on by a panel of their peers. Last season, while making the moves necessary to propel Cleveland to the title, Griffin finished just seventh for the award.
James suggested that while his presence on the court undoubtedly helps the Cavs, it also makes Griffin's job more challenging.
"Listen, there are a lot of GMs that don't want to help me and help us," James told ESPN. "I've seen it. I've seen it. I've been to six straight Finals and there's GMs in the Eastern Conference that are like, 'S---, if we can get him out of the f---ing way, we can get an opportunity to maybe represent the Eastern Conference in the Finals. So, I get that.
"He still is doing what he needs to do to help this ballclub win [despite that]. And when I came here, when I decided to come back three years ago, I looked Griff dead in the eye and said, 'Listen, I'm here to compete for a championship and that's it.' And he said, 'That's exactly what I want to do too.'"
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...m-david-griffin-gets-endorsement-lebron-james
Dave McMenamin
ESPN Staff Writer
CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Cavaliers' biggest impending free agent might not even wear a uniform.
Cavs general manager David Griffin has been operating this season on the final year of his contract after failing to come to an agreement on an extension with ownership this past offseason, multiple sources told ESPN.
Griffin has presided over the team signing LeBron James, trading for Kevin Love and making two straight NBA Finals appearances -- the second resulting in the first championship for the city of Cleveland in 52 years -- since he was elevated from the Cavs' acting general manager following the dismissal of Chris Grant, to head GM in May 2014.
While doling out contract extensions to much of the Cavs' core in the last two summers -- James, Love, Tristan Thompson, J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert and Richard Jefferson all inked multiyear deals totaling more than $395 million -- there has been no deal struck for Griffin himself. Cavs coach Tyronn Lue was also rewarded with a five-year, $35 million extension in July.
Some key voices inside the Cavaliers' locker room have spoken out in support of the GM, who has spent more than half his life working in the NBA after starting with the Phoenix Suns as an intern in 1993.
"It makes no sense why he shouldn't get an extension," James recently told ESPN. "He's pulled every move -- he's tried to make every move happen -- to better this team to be able to compete for a championship. So we wouldn't be in this position, obviously, without him and without the guys that are here -- from the coaching staff to the players to Griff. He's been a big piece of it."
James went on to rattle off the moves that Griffin implemented midseason during each of the past three years to give the Cavs a facelift.
"He went out, we needed some interior help, he went out and got Timo [Timofey Mozgov]," James told ESPN of the deal Griffin struck in January 2015. "We needed some perimeter defense, some perimeter shooting, he made a trade to be able to get Swish [J.R. Smith] and Shump [Shumpert]. And that was the start of it. We needed more interior depth, he got Perk [Kendrick Perkins]. We got guys. We brought guys in. We needed some more athletic wings, he made a move, I don't know how he finagled it to get RJ [Jefferson] here. And so on and so on ...
"I mean, all the guys that are here. We wanted a stretch-4 to help Kev out, we make a trade to get Channing [Frye]. I mean, I can name all the pieces that he's been able to [acquire]."
Lue, who shares agent Mark Carmony of CSE with Griffin, also recently spoke out about what the Cavs GM did this season to improve Cleveland on the fly.
"Griff's done a hell of a job," Lue said. "To acquire D-Will 2 [Derrick Williams], D-Will 1 [Deron Williams], [Kyle] Korver and [Andrew] Bogut without having any money, that's an amazing job. Griff's done a tremendous job. Every time someone goes down. Even last year, the year before when Timo and J.R. and those guys came in, he just always seems to work his magic when we need it and he's done a great job. Now it's my job to make sure I put everybody in the best possible way to be successful."
Griffin declined comment, and Carmony did not return several attempts by ESPN to contact him.
While having the benefit of the highest payroll in the league (north of $128 million) and the type of talent that wants to play for the Cavs, Cleveland's salary structure has caused Griffin to have to be creative in the margins. In Griffin's contract year, the GM has figured out a way to dump the salaries of injured players Mo Williams and Chris "Birdman" Andersen, while revamping the bench.
James acknowledged that Griffin's contract status mirrors the disrespect the GM has received because of the perception that James ultimately runs the franchise.
"Obviously they always want to bring my name into it and say that obviously, it's easier because guys want to be here because I'm here," James told ESPN. "But at the end of the day, he still has to press the right buttons because I'm not in the war room, I'm not in the draft room with those [front office] guys. I don't know how much we may be over the luxury tax or if we have a trade exception here or how that's going to work there or how many days we got to do this. So, it wouldn't, seriously, I don't know why it would make any sense to bring in a new GM. That don't make no sense."
While the Cavs have dominated the league with Griffin calling the shots -- save for their recent slump -- the GM has seen some of his peers be rewarded with contract extensions while he waits. When Griffin and the Cavs won the championship in 2016, they went through GM Masai Ujiri's Toronto Raptors in the Eastern Conference finals and GM Bob Myers' Golden State Warriors in the Finals. Ujiri signed a multiyear extension with Toronto in September, and the Warriors promoted Myers to the president of basketball operations while also signing him to an extension this past offseason.
In 2014-15, Griffin finished second to Myers for NBA executive of the year, which is voted on by a panel of their peers. Last season, while making the moves necessary to propel Cleveland to the title, Griffin finished just seventh for the award.
James suggested that while his presence on the court undoubtedly helps the Cavs, it also makes Griffin's job more challenging.
"Listen, there are a lot of GMs that don't want to help me and help us," James told ESPN. "I've seen it. I've seen it. I've been to six straight Finals and there's GMs in the Eastern Conference that are like, 'S---, if we can get him out of the f---ing way, we can get an opportunity to maybe represent the Eastern Conference in the Finals. So, I get that.
"He still is doing what he needs to do to help this ballclub win [despite that]. And when I came here, when I decided to come back three years ago, I looked Griff dead in the eye and said, 'Listen, I'm here to compete for a championship and that's it.' And he said, 'That's exactly what I want to do too.'"
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...m-david-griffin-gets-endorsement-lebron-james
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