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Dion Waiters

Discussion in 'Cavs Talk' started by Ruggeder, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. rabman_gold

    rabman_gold Anti-Florida yet stuck here...

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    Yeah, even with my uncertainty in what Dion will look like at the start of the season, there is just no fucking way he will look like Ramon Sessions. I mean, sure, he will probably be able to drive to the hole like Ramon, but the best thing about Ramon besides his driving ability was his ability to pass to Antawn at the right time.

    Unless Dion becomes lazy and never lives up to his potential, I can see a pretty bright future for him. While he was forced to be the point guard, he was clearly self-conscious of hogging the ball and spotlight too much when trying to get involved with others, even though he was in the half-court corner little too much. But he still was able to get pretty nice passes to the guys and also other passes as well that didn't turn out to be assists because of his horribly talented teammates.

    I can't wait until he gets into shape.
     
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  2. RTrees

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    The sample size of a few summer league games, considering the circumstances, out of shape, not been working out, attending camps, is almost negligible as far as critiquing shooting abilities in terms of fg%.

    What summer league does show is that he didn't come in ready.. for summer league..

    Could be argued to be a character flaw or much less serious and he just happens to be starting his NBA career not ready to hit the ground running..

    Anybody know how he came into college first practices? Did he go to class? Does he possess those "high character" qualities Cavs management comments about in other acquisitions? Or did his basketball seduce Grant off those lines of thinking? (not sure any of this matters, just curious)
     
  3. MRMsix6

    MRMsix6 All-Star

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    Here are some quotes from David Thorpe on the subject of SL and transitioning from college to NBA

    On looking for potential red flags in SL:
    On conditioning:
    Here's the whole article where the quotes are pulled from: Is it a Waste of Time to Worry? | Hardwood Paroxysm
     
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  4. Tornicade

    Tornicade High five!

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    I didnt se a kid who was just happy to be in the NBa. i saw a kid who was working to be succesful in the game. albeit a little out of shape. Waiters played hard. He worked on his defense. playing on tired legs (and apparently a bruised knee) and made some adjustments to his shots that took took him out of his natural flow.

    Id rather see Waiters struggle trying to add to his game than perform flawless just focused on what he already does well.
     
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  5. EdMonix11

    EdMonix11 Sixth Man

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    To think Byron Scott doesn't have a significant say in player personnel, well, that's a pretty nearsighted approach. I think Byron said he watched 40 games worth of film of Waiters at Syracuse leading up to the draft and did the same with Kyrie, with film going back to high school. Byron has always been active within the front office in every coaching stop he's made and has made numerous hand-picked roster decisions. Disagree with me all you want but the guy has a proven track record as one of the top developers for guards in the entire NBA, just ask Chris Paul his thoughts.
     
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  6. Boohd

    Boohd Rookie

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    I dont know if you guys saw his most recent picture on instagram but he looks much more in shape. I cant view it on the computer but if you have insagram look up his most recent photo with the caption haters cant stop me or something like that. His instagram is @cuse3.

    http://instagram.com/p/Nzq_DEAB-h/
     
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  7. winner0274

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    What the hell happened? He looks small as shit.
     
  8. MGMT

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    He looks like he hit up the insanity workout routine or something. Also, I hope he isn't referring to the Cavaliers fanbase as the haters.
     
  9. narbar32

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    I think it's just more of a general me-against-the-world sort of attitude, which can sometimes be good and can sometimes be very bad.

    And man that kid has a pretty big noggin.
     
  10. Bob_The_Cat

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    Man...this guy just can't win can he? Last week he was too chubby, now he's too skinny? He definitely looks like he lost a little bit of weight, but people need to remember that in these summer league games he was wearing one of those compression shirts with the rib pads and an ill fitting practice jersey. Of course he's going to look much bigger in that than in clothes that actually fit him.

    Plus, for an athlete of his level and considering he wasn't working out much at all prior to the draft, it'd be pretty easy for him to shed 5-10 lbs in 2 weeks if he started going hard with the cardio and eating better. To me it's a great sign if he looks a little thin at this point. There's still 3 months before the season. That's plenty of time to hit the weight room and put back on some good weight.
     
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  11. Tornicade

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    I am not sure why people equate not working out for teams as not working out. team pre draft workouts do not get players in shape. they let teams see what the guy can do.

    If Dion had worked for teams he would o fbeen in the same shape during summer leagiue. his workout regiman would of stayed the same
     
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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    Byron's gonna get him in NBA shape but he's off to a good start. Good for him
     
  14. The Human Q-Tip

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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    Waiter's problem is never going to be that he's too thin. The danger with him will be if he starts dining with Raymond Felton.
     
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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    Or the Olympic Swim team
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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    It's a quote from a song...... Why would he refer to the fanbase of the team who just drafted him as haters before he plays a game for them? :weirdo:
     
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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    so is he supposed to prove to the haters that he sucks? seems like a lot of candy ass nitpicking over nothing.

    oh noes dion waiters doesnt like being called shit by his fans and wants to prove them wrong.. what a horrible attitude.


    If i was a dion hater. I would be hoping he proved me wrong too- :vio:
     
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    A. Whatever song it is, I've never heard it in my life
    B. I said I HOPE, I wasn't making an accusation.
    C. There were adverse reactions upon drafting him, so maybe he took it to heart or something. Forgive me for thinking about it.
     
  19. The Oi

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    Not sure what kind of truth there is to it, but a coach here in Orlando who is somewhat dialed in to college bball said that Waiters is known amongst other coaches to have alcohol problems. Anyone ever hear anything about this?
     
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    Re: Welcome Dion Waiters

    He just likes to relate to the fans. We ALL need alcohol when we watch his jump shot.
     

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