Dion Waiters Traded

[CosmoKramer]

You BET Kyrie has been accepting after he saw the latest player line-up stats!

Easily my favorite part.

 

[The Oi]

His constant posting about updated player lineup stats was one of the reasons I ended up blocking Kyrie on twitter.

 

[Lee63]

Clear as mud. To tear down Kyrie, you claim his best 5 man rotation is - Clark, Miles, TT, Andy, Kyrie for +8pts.
Then to build up Dion you claim his best 5 man rotation is Kyrie, Miles, TT, Andy, Dion for +34pts. Ummm, that lineup includes KYRIE. Why isn't that lineup also Kyrie's best lineup??? :chuckles:

I CLAIM!!!!! ????? No I didn't claim! I didn't make up these stats. When you click on the links which you didn't . Dion has 5 man rotations that he can have +34pts WITHOUT KYRIE. Yes he can also have those with KYRIE's (THAT"S WHY I LISTED IT BECAUSE THEY LISTED IT) but it's NOT LISTED in KYRIE"S STAT at http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01/lineups/2014/ GO AHEAD CLICK THE LINK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!! NOT LYING ABOUT IT!! All I can think is they didn't put it in because they didn't start. But the +34 pts is listed on that table as it is from the website on Dion's.

If I had inserted it in the table YOU wanted me to you would have accused me of forging the stats because it wouldn't have matched Kyrie's stats from the website. I should have made a side note that for whatever reason it wasn't listed. But yeah it was listed in the second table.

I'm not freakin tearing down Kyrie. LOOK AT THE STATS!! The point I was going after was Dion can get more Positive points in the double digits WITHOUT KYRIE than Kyrie can WITHOUT DION How is that point not CLEAR???


NOT MY STATS! Next time click the links before you make accusations I suppressed it.

 

[Nathan S]

I CLAIM!!!!! ????? No I didn't claim! I didn't make up these stats. When you click on the links which you didn't . Dion has 5 man rotations that he can have +34pts WITHOUT KYRIE. Yes he can also have those with KYRIE's stats (THAT"S WHY I LISTED IT) but it's NOT LISTED in KYRIE"S STAT at http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01/lineups/2014/ GO AHEAD CLICK THE LINK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!
I'm not freakin tearing down Kyrie. LOOK AT THE STATS!! The point is Dion can get more Positive points in the double digits WITHOUT KYRIE than KYRIE than Kyrie can WITHOUT DION


NOT MY STATS! Next time click the links before you make accusations I suppressed it.

 

[Lee63]

Yea I was going to say....

5 man Kyrie, Miles, TT, Andy, Dion +34pts has both listed so clearly its best for both of them...

Yes I was trying to point that out as well. The links are set up exactly like the tables. If I would have inserted it in that exact spot I would have been accused of forging the stats. I probably should have put a little side note that it wasn't included. Figured everyone would figure that out. I was going after the point that Dion can get double digit figures without Kyrie.

 

[Lee63]

It's also clear that Dion and Delly need to play together as much as possible. Good things happen when they share the court.

Thanks!! I wasn't trying to suppress Kyrie could get +34 pts with DIon. It was listed... . The links are set up exactly like the tables. If I would have inserted it in that exact spot I would have been accused of forging the stats. I probably should have put a little side note that it wasn't included. Figured everyone would figure that out. I was going after the point that Dion can get double digit figures without Kyrie.

 

[Maximus]

I CLAIM!!!!! ????? No I didn't claim! I didn't make up these stats. When you click on the links which you didn't . Dion has 5 man rotations that he can have +34pts WITHOUT KYRIE. Yes he can also have those with KYRIE's stats (THAT"S WHY I LISTED IT) but it's NOT LISTED in KYRIE"S STAT at http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01/lineups/2014/ GO AHEAD CLICK THE LINK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!
I'm not freakin tearing down Kyrie. LOOK AT THE STATS!! The point is Dion can get more Positive points in the double digits WITHOUT KYRIE than Kyrie can WITHOUT DION

NOT MY STATS! Next time click the links before you make accusations I suppressed it.

First, take a Xanax.

Second, I did click the link. You need to go re-read your chart above. Again, you have Kyrie's best 5 man lineup as Clark, Miles, TT, Andy, Kyrie for +8pts. How can that be his best +/- lineup when in your next chart you have another lineup with Kyrie in it at +34? That makes no sense. The problem with basketball reference lineups is that it doesn't show every lineup for each guy. It only shows top 10 per minutes...that's why the +34 lineup doesn't show up for Kyrie when you sort by PTS. I wouldn't get too worked up about either of the +34 lineups, neither has even played a full game of minutes together.

 

[CavsFaninNJ]

Someone's passionate

 

[chrisrich91]

I CLAIM!!!!! ????? No I didn't claim! I didn't make up these stats. When you click on the links which you didn't . Dion has 5 man rotations that he can have +34pts WITHOUT KYRIE. Yes he can also have those with KYRIE's (THAT"S WHY I LISTED IT BECAUSE THEY LISTED IT) but it's NOT LISTED in KYRIE"S STAT at http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01/lineups/2014/ GO AHEAD CLICK THE LINK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!! NOT LYING ABOUT IT!! All I can think is they didn't put it in because they didn't start. But the +34 pts is listed on that table as it is from the website on Dion's.

If I had inserted it in the table YOU wanted me to you would have accused me of forging the stats because it wouldn't have matched Kyrie's stats from the website. I should have made a side note that for whatever reason it wasn't listed. But yeah it was listed in the second table.

I'm not freakin tearing down Kyrie. LOOK AT THE STATS!! The point I was going after was Dion can get more Positive points in the double digits WITHOUT KYRIE than Kyrie can WITHOUT DION How is that point not CLEAR???


NOT MY STATS! Next time click the links before you make accusations I suppressed it.

Love the passion though.. :chuckles:

 

[CardiacCavs]

I CLAIM!!!!! ????? No I didn't claim! I didn't make up these stats. When you click on the links which you didn't . Dion has 5 man rotations that he can have +34pts WITHOUT KYRIE. Yes he can also have those with KYRIE's (THAT"S WHY I LISTED IT BECAUSE THEY LISTED IT) but it's NOT LISTED in KYRIE"S STAT at http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01/lineups/2014/ GO AHEAD CLICK THE LINK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!! NOT LYING ABOUT IT!! All I can think is they didn't put it in because they didn't start. But the +34 pts is listed on that table as it is from the website on Dion's.

If I had inserted it in the table YOU wanted me to you would have accused me of forging the stats because it wouldn't have matched Kyrie's stats from the website. I should have made a side note that for whatever reason it wasn't listed. But yeah it was listed in the second table.

I'm not freakin tearing down Kyrie. LOOK AT THE STATS!! The point I was going after was Dion can get more Positive points in the double digits WITHOUT KYRIE than Kyrie can WITHOUT DION How is that point not CLEAR???


NOT MY STATS! Next time click the links before you make accusations I suppressed it.

You got spunk kid, I'll give you that. You're going places around here.


Not sure where though....

 

[AllforOne]

His constant posting about updated player lineup stats was one of the reasons I ended up blocking Kyrie on twitter.

I'm now picturing that photo of Kyrie with the two chicks in his lap, with them Photoshopped to look like Hollinger and Goldsberry. So, uh, thanks for that ...

 

[Lee63]

First, take a Xanax.

Second, I did click the link. You need to go re-read your chart above. Again, you have Kyrie's best 5 man lineup as Clark, Miles, TT, Andy, Kyrie for +8pts. How can that be his best +/- lineup when in your next chart you have another lineup with Kyrie in it at +34? That makes no sense. The problem with basketball reference lineups is that it doesn't show every lineup for each guy. It only shows top 10 per minutes...that's why the +34 lineup doesn't show up for Kyrie when you sort by PTS. I wouldn't get too worked up about either of the +34 lineups, neither has even played a full game of minutes together.

There you go again accusing " you have Kyrie's best 5 man lineup as Clark, Miles, TT, Andy, Kyrie for +8pts. " THIS IS FROM THE WEBSITE. This is what they have listed as best. You want to argue about that fine then say you have a problem with THEM! They calculated the stats and posted them. As far as the chart I designed was from the figures from that website focusing on pts. I never mislead quoting any minutes in there. You don't like this that's okay. Please design your own chart and stats and point that out since it means a lot to you.

Again my goal wasn't trying to suppress that Kyrie can also be with Waiters in that 5 man rotation in the +34 at all. It was listed on Dion's stats. In fact, when I try to argue for them playing together I refer to that stat. This time I was focused solely on Dion can be productive if not more than Kyrie on other player line-ups in the double digits. And somehow that got lost in I was trying to suppress Kyrie's stat instead. I do like both Dion and Kyrie. I'm excited Dion has finally proven himself to be a starter. But I'm beginning to wonder which of these 2 can really make their team mates better. You take it for what it's worth.

 

[BigErieCavsFan]

There you go again accusing " you have Kyrie's best 5 man lineup as Clark, Miles, TT, Andy, Kyrie for +8pts. " THIS IS FROM THE WEBSITE. This is what they have listed as best. You want to argue about that fine then say you have a problem with THEM! They calculated the stats and posted them. As far as the chart I designed was from the figures from that website focusing on pts. I never mislead quoting any minutes in there. You don't like this that's okay. Please design your own chart and stats and point that out since it means a lot to you.

Again my goal wasn't trying to suppress that Kyrie can also be with Waiters in that 5 man rotation in the +34 at all. In fact, when I try to argue for them playing together I refer to that stat. This time I was focused solely on Dion can be productive if not more than Kyrie on other player line-ups in the double digits. And somehow that got lost in I was trying to suppress Kyrie's stat instead. I do like both Dion and Kyrie. I'm excited Dion has finally proven himself to be a starter. But I'm beginning to wonder which of these 2 can really make their team mates better. You take it for what it's worth.

Sounds like "THE WEBSITE" is fucked up to me. As max has been trying to say, how can Kyries best 5 man lineup be +8 when he is in the +34 lineup with Dion?

 

[Maximus]

THIS IS FROM THE WEBSITE. This is what they have listed as best. You want to argue about that fine then say you have a problem with THEM! They calculated the stats and posted them.

I did.

The problem with basketball reference lineups is that it doesn't show every lineup for each guy. It only shows top 10 per minutes...that's why the +34 lineup doesn't show up for Kyrie when you sort by PTS.

Look Sparky, i'm not accusing you of lying, forging or suppressing. I understand the point you were trying to make. I'm just saying it's not a very good one and it's flawed.

I'll give you this, you've got moxie!

 

[Toph]

Isn't it required that you make 200k to use "Lee" in your username? Love the style though Lee. Moxie is right. Let's start taking bets on the first temp ban for harassing a mod :chuckles: