Ebola...

[KB]

Some of the questions I have...I know Amber Vinson is a licensed nurse in Ohio and Texas, but what was she doing back in Ohio? Does she have a home here or friends/family that she was visiting? Where was she in Cleveland when she was here/how long was she here for? 2) I'm confused with the whole she was on a flight from Cleveland to Dallas, are we supposed to assume that she also was on a flight from Dallas to Cleveland after making contact with Thomas Duncan as well? How did she get back to Cleveland in the first place? Was there any layover time for her flights at other airports?

She has family that works at Kent State

The funny thing about this to me is....

She was told she was a low to no risk person by the people in authority for this..She didn't start feeling feverish until after she arrived on Tuesday (yesterday) and then immediately went to seek medical care

Even if she didn't get on a plan to visit her family after an extraordinary situation that was probably beyond stressful she would have continued her daily routine in Texas. Meaning she would have been going to the store, fast food places, maybe a gym, ect...

People would still blame her, call her stupid or naive...Even though she was told she was at the low end of the risk spectrum...Even if she had stayed home people would be calling the hospital stupid for letting her leave...

The power of hindsight is fun

On a side note:

Some places are reporting she had a body temperature of 99 degrees before she got on the flight. Considering the average body temp is 98.6 and this person is from Texas its not an indicator at that point. Which is little funny to me because who took her temperature before she got on the plane? (doesn't make sense unless she underwent screening before boarding)

When it comes to quarantines I'm not sure how effective those are going to be. People, regardless of the situation do not like to be caged. It's been proven through out history over and over again. IMO I don't think quarantines are going to work due to the incubation period of the virus unless each person is isolated on an individual basis, which isn't really possible.

 

[Maximus]

Sixty Days To Beat Ebola, United Nations Warns
If the deadly outbreak cannot be reined in by Christmas then the UN says there is no plan in place and it could be overwhelmed.

00:13, UK,Wednesday 15 October 2014

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The UN says the ebola outbreak must be controlled within 60 days or else the world faces an "unprecedented" situation for which there is no plan.

The United Nations made the stark warning as it warned that the disease "is running faster than us and it is winning the race".

Nearly 9,000 cases of ebola have been reported so far in West Africa, including 4,447 deaths.

"The WHO advises within 60 days we must ensure 70% of infected people are in a care facility and 70% of burials are done without causing further infection," said Anthony Banbury, the UN's deputy ebola coordinator.

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"We need to do that within 60 days from 1 October. If we reach these targets then we can turn this epidemic around."

But Mr Banbury told the UN Security Council the 70% target was becoming harder to meet as new infections stack up.

He urged: "We either stop ebola now or we face an entirely unprecedented situation for which we do not have a plan."

The UN's Unmeer emergency mission is following a four-pronged plan to fight ebola.

Identify and trace contacts; manage cases; ensure safe burials and provide people with information to protect themselves.

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"If we fail at any of these, we fail entirely," warned Mr Banbury.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) earlier said there could be 10,000 new cases of ebola per week within two months.

WHO assistant director general Bruce Aylward told a news conference the total was expected to top 9,000 by the end of this week.

He said the death rate from the current outbreak had risen to 70% from about 50%.

When asked how the situation could develop in the next two months, he warned: "We anticipate the number of cases occurring per week by that time to be somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 per week.

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"It could be higher, it could be lower, but somewhere in that ball park."

Some 95% of the cases are occurring in the same limited number of districts of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea which were affected a month ago, he said.

Dr Aylward said it was "too early to say" whether this meant that the epidemic was slowing down.

The plateau in reported infections may simply be due to limitations in the ability of authorities in the region to check and record cases, he said.

Dr Aylward said there were "positive" signs of a slow down in the rate of new cases in northern Liberia and Guinea, probably due to behaviour changes among the local population.

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But he warned: "This is ebola, this is a horrible, unforgiving disease - you've got to get to zero.

"With a bit of change in the behaviour of populations, with some burials happening safely, with a little bit more case management and a couple of new centres opening, you are going to slow this down very quickly."

 

[Simon]

Oh, I don't feel comfortable with my dad going to India with all this Ebola and ISIS shit going on..

 

[Mr. Orange]

It's one gigantic freaking bubble waiting to burst, it just needs a trigger. I always thought it would be a terrorist attack or something. Now I think we've found it in the form of a tiny virus we can't even see. Billionaires have all been bailing for months. The Fed just keeps on printing and artificially keeping this thing afloat. This is going to be extremely painful when it bursts.

As Ebola continues to spread exponentially, companies are going to get hurt. People will get more and more scared, they won't travel, they wont go out for dinner, wont go to malls, sporting events, or other crowded places. The markets will fall, there will be a run on the banks. It will be a domino effect. Business slows, layoffs, businesses close, looting, anarchy, zombies, etc...

FYI...the market dropped 400 after hearing about only patient #2. The WHO is predicting 1.4M infected in the next few months. I'm assuming in a few months the U.S. will have a lot more than two. Where are the docs and nurses to treat all these people? What happens as more and more doctors die?

I said it before, i just don't see how any third world country can survive this if it isn't contained soon. Africa is totally screwed in my opinion. They need to fully quarantine the effected areas. NO ONE COMES OUT! Give them anything they need. But stop letting anyone out. The world needs to get the cases to ZERO...ZERO for several months for this to be over. This is a potential Global killer. Some very tough decisions need to be made real fricking fast. Decisions that may seem cruel, but that are necessary so that billions don't die. Nations all have a tipping point, there's only so many patients they can handle...then that nation collapses.

I've been in bonds and cash since last fall. (at least my money that isn't for retirement). Equities have been scary for awhile. The Fed is removing the drugs and the patient is still sick. Does this stuff have to happen when we form a super team?

 

[I.K.W.T]

She stayed with family in Tallmadge, where my family lives, while i have an apartment in Akron. Little ol' Tallmadge Ohio is now having the CDC coming in, along with media attention. Damn it, i'm scared.

 

[bigfoot5415]

She stayed with family in Tallmadge, where my family lives, while i have an apartment in Akron. Little ol' Tallmadge Ohio is now having the CDC coming in, along with media attention. Damn it, i'm scared.

I remember when the news came into my old neighborhood. It was all because some creep locked up 3 girls in his house for 10 years..

I also volunteer has Maxs & Orange Julius lackey if you guys will teach me your ways.

 

[Simon]

Email from Kent State....better not be any of my professors....

The second nurse diagnosed with Ebola at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, who traveled from Dallas to Cleveland this past Friday, is a relative of three Kent State employees. The patient had no symptoms during her visit, nor did she ever visit campus. The three Kent State employees had direct contact with the diagnosed patient while she was in town. The patient stayed at the home of her family in Summit County. The patient returned to Dallas on Monday and presented symptoms Tuesday morning. To reiterate, the patient was not symptomatic during her time in the area, and the patient was never on Kent State's campus. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) states that those infected by the Ebola virus are not contagious until presenting symptoms.
The safety of our Kent State community is our top priority. Even though the patient was not symptomatic when in the area, we are taking every precaution possible to protect our community members. Out of an abundance of caution, the three Kent State employees who had direct contact will remain off campus for the self-monitoring period of 21 days. The university medical staff is working closely with public health officials. We will monitor the situation with due diligence to keep our campus community informed and safe.

For more information about Ebola, visit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website at www.cdc.gov or Kent State's University Health Services at https://www.kent.edu/sites/default/files/what-need-to-know-ebola.pdf.

 

[AZ_]

Ebola isn't contagious enough for this to be a "global killer" as has been so over-dramatically put.

That's not to say I wouldn't take every step possible to figure out a plan for eradicating it.

 

[CosmoKramer]

She has family that works at Kent State

The funny thing about this to me is....

She was told she was a low to no risk person by the people in authority for this..She didn't start feeling feverish until after she arrived on Tuesday (yesterday) and then immediately went to seek medical care

Even if she didn't get on a plan to visit her family after an extraordinary situation that was probably beyond stressful she would have continued her daily routine in Texas. Meaning she would have been going to the store, fast food places, maybe a gym, ect...

People would still blame her, call her stupid or naive...Even though she was told she was at the low end of the risk spectrum...Even if she had stayed home people would be calling the hospital stupid for letting her leave...

The power of hindsight is fun

On a side note:

Some places are reporting she had a body temperature of 99 degrees before she got on the flight. Considering the average body temp is 98.6 and this person is from Texas its not an indicator at that point. Which is little funny to me because who took her temperature before she got on the plane? (doesn't make sense unless she underwent screening before boarding)

When it comes to quarantines I'm not sure how effective those are going to be. People, regardless of the situation do not like to be caged. It's been proven through out history over and over again. IMO I don't think quarantines are going to work due to the incubation period of the virus unless each person is isolated on an individual basis, which isn't really possible.

This is not the power of hindsight, this should be common sense. We've seen exactly one case of ebola in the US so far, and she's one of the few handful of people in the entire country to have treated him. Is it really too much to ask to limit your exposure until we know you're not carrying a panic-inducing disease?

You called her at the low end of the risk spectrum a couple times, uh what? Low end of risk, for ebola. That alone should have her in quarantine, and her superiors fired for giving her permission to fly on a commercial flight.

 

[TwoPistols]

Ebola isn't contagious enough for this to be a "global killer" as has been so over-dramatically put.

That's not to say I wouldn't take every step possible to figure out a plan for eradicating it.

I don't get this. A guy with Ebola was cared for by two nurses in protective gear, yet they still got it. Not contagious enough though.

 

[SixPACK]

I don't get this. A guy with Ebola was cared for by two nurses in protective gear, yet they still got it. Not contagious enough though.

They were probably careless taking off their protective gear. You have that virus all over your "suit" and if you don't follow the protocol to a 'T', for decontamination, you are going to get it. Idiot probably rubbed her eye or covered her mouth on a sneeze after grazing her suit.

 

[Binkster]

I don't get this. A guy with Ebola was cared for by two nurses in protective gear, yet they still got it. Not contagious enough though.

Nnnno no no. But way to further perpetutate this myth.

This is the issue at hand - they weren't in protective gear nor did they take any necessary steps to protect themselves. Why do you think the media is up in arms about the way the hospital handled the situation?

Also, I can assure you that he came into contact with more than just two nurses. The fact that only two have been infected out of the entire bunch should tell you something.

 

[B Mac]

They were probably careless taking off their protective gear. You have that virus all over your "suit" and if you don't follow the protocol to a 'T', for decontamination, you are going to get it. Idiot probably rubbed her eye or covered her mouth on a sneeze after grazing her suit.

Or it's much more contagious than the CDC realizes. (I don't see any reason for them to lie about its contagiousness)

Also, now that more than one nurse got it, the risk of human error begins to decrease significantly.

 

[SixPACK]

I just realized that girl graduated a year before me from my High School. Weird shit.

 

[DatDudeZ3]

You would think NBA players and all professional athletes would be at high risk as well with all the traveling and all touching the same ball on the court with different teams from all over the country...