Ebola...

[Maximus]

So without going into a lot of detail my job is chem and bio defense related.

We're all going to die...

 

[bigfoot5415]

So without going into a lot of detail my job is chem and bio defense related. Ebola doesn't even hit the top ten bio concerns we have. Thats how much any of you should care about Ebola

Yea I would love to know what's at the top.

 

[Marcus]

President Obama has authorized deployment of the Army National Guard to West Africa to help the active duty guys over there already, at least 4,000 additional troops.

I'll let you know if I hear anything within the next few days.

Bob, I'm also very curious to hear what is in the top 10 in regards to biological threats.

 

[beefstew]

Kind of on/off topic with this subject, but does anyone here have experience with flu shots? I kind of have a needle phobia, it's not the pain that gets me just the thought and seeing them. Whenever I get a shot my entire day is thrown off and I turn into a zombie and pass out multiple times through out the day and just all around cannot function. I know it sounds really really stupid and pussy like, but I've been turned away from getting blood work done because of how worked up I get about needles.

The reason I'm asking this is because my brother has a kind of rare disease called ALPs and he has an extremely weak immune system due to it and just simple common colds can become life threatening to him. I was talking to my sister (who's a nurse) about this whole Ebola thing and she called me an asshole and selfish the entire time because I've been stubborn my entire life to get the flu shot. She advised me that right now I really need to go get the shot or stay away from my brother and most of my family basically. I've heard a lot of stories that people get the flu shot and then end up getting the flu basically from it, is that true? I haven't got the flu or sick really in as long as I can remember. But I think with all of this happening right now I'm going to have to bite the bullet and just do it for the sake of my brother.

 

[Marcus]

Kind of on/off topic with this subject, but does anyone here have experience with flu shots? I kind of have a needle phobia, it's not the pain that gets me just the thought and seeing them. Whenever I get a shot my entire day is thrown off and I turn into a zombie and pass out multiple times through out the day and just all around cannot function. I know it sounds really really stupid and pussy like, but I've been turned away from getting blood work done because of how worked up I get about needles.

The reason I'm asking this is because my brother has a kind of rare disease called ALPs and he has an extremely weak immune system due to it and just simple common colds can become life threatening to him. I was talking to my sister (who's a nurse) about this whole Ebola thing and she called me an asshole and selfish the entire time because I've been stubborn my entire life to get the flu shot. She advised me that right now I really need to go get the shot or stay away from my brother and most of my family basically. I've heard a lot of stories that people get the flu shot and then end up getting the flu basically from it, is that true? I haven't got the flu or sick really in as long as I can remember. But I think with all of this happening right now I'm going to have to bite the bullet and just do it for the sake of my brother.

That's how the vaccine is designed to work. They inject you with a weak/dead form of the virus so your body can build up an immunity over an approximately two week period.

 

[Huber.]

President Obama has authorized deployment of the Army National Guard to West Africa to help the active duty guys over there already, at least 4,000 additional troops.

I'll let you know if I hear anything within the next few days.

Bob, I'm also very curious to hear what is in the top 10 in regards to biological threats.

Does anyone know if any soldiers that are over seas have it?

 

[CleveRocks]

Does anyone know if any soldiers that are over seas have it?

My question is, " What excatly is the mission of the US Military in West Africa"

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

My question is, " What excatly is the mission of the US Military in West Africa"

Apparently, there is an acute shortage of hospital beds, which means there is no room for a great many Ebola patients. That means they end up having to stay in their homes after they develop symptoms, which makes spread to family and neighbors much more likely.

The troops are mostly engineering types who are going to be building field hospitals and beds to help alleviate that.

As much as I think non-medical flights should be banned, this sounds like a reasonable way to help. Doesn't require contact with any patients, and may help slow the spread.

 

[Soar]

So now it appears she might have even had symptoms before flying to Cleveland...

I just don't get it. Why would you put your family at risk like that? Let alone hundreds of others.

 

[Marcus]

Does anyone know if any soldiers that are over seas have it?

I haven't heard anything about that.

To answer someone else's question, their mission over there is largely to set up treatment centers because the ones over there are overwhelmed right now.

 

[The Oi]

I vaguely remember @gourimoko making a comment about the world being in need of a good pandemic after a video of an African kid sucking on a goat's asshole was posted in wtf.

Maybe this is it?

 

[bigfoot5415]

Last night I heard a good Ebola joke, wanna hear it?

...never mind you probably wont get it....



BAZINGA!

 

[Binkster]

Seems like the picture is becoming a bit clearer as to how the disease was spread:

Ebola in Texas: Nurses treated disease victim 'without proper protective gear' in hospital where hazardous waste was 'piled to ceiling'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...to-ceiling-9796546.html?origin=internalSearch

Nurses at a Texas hospital caring for a patient with Ebola have described chaotic scenes at the ward where he was treated, with hazardous waste “piled up to the ceiling” and staff forced to work without proper protective gear.

A statement from nurses at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital read by the National Nurses United (NNU) said those caring for Ebola victim Thomas Duncan were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments.

They were particularly worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhoea and projectile vomiting, Deborah Burger, the co-president of the NNU claimed.
Some of the nurses caring for Mr Duncan were allegedly also caring for other patients in the hospital.

Ms Burger spoke after convening a conference call with reporters to relay what she said were concerns raised by nurses who looked after Mr Duncan at the Dallas hospital.

RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of Nurses United, said the statement came from "several" nurses, but refused to state how many. She said the organisation had vetted the claims.

The allegations come after health care worker Nina Pham tested positive for Ebola on Sunday. She had been in close contact with Mr Duncan while treating him before his death last Wednesday.

A second health care worker who was also treating Mr Duncan at the hospital tested positive for the virus on Tuesday evening, and was named today as 29-year-old Amber Joy Vinson.

Ms Burger said nurses claimed Mr Duncan was left for several hours “not in isolation, in an area where other patients were present," after being admitted into hospital. Up to seven other patients were alleged to have also been in the same area.

"There was no one to pick up hazardous waste as it piled to the ceiling," Ms Burger was quoted by CNN as saying. "They did not have access to proper supplies."

The nurses also alleged Mr Duncan’s lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system.

"The protocols that should have been in place in Dallas were not in place, and that those protocols are not in place anywhere in the United States as far as we can tell," Ms DeMoro said on Tuesday night. "We're deeply alarmed."

Wendell Watson, a Presbyterian spokesman, did not respond to specific claims by the nurses but said the hospital had not received similar complaints.

"Patient and employee safety is our greatest priority and we take compliance very seriously," he said in a statement. "We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24/7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting."

 

[MalTalm]

What are top three?

Just a guess, but probably something along the lines of:

1. The flu
2. The flu
3. Weaponized smallpox.

 

[Kouki]

Seems like the picture is becoming a bit clearer as to how the disease was spread:

I really don't get this.

Don't hospitals have completely over-the-top safety regulations that they must adhere to on a daily basis? How does this work in the medical field?

Being an engineer, everywhere you go is safety, safety, safety. We take every precaution, no matter how silly it seems, to prevent accidents/lost time. If you are working in an area that is elevated more than four feet you have to strap on to something. We have light screens that shut down equipment if you even fart near a piece of machinery. Mostly because if you get injured on the job the company is responsible. If you put one toe out of line in regards to safety, you are severely disciplined or fired.

Do hospitals not have the same regards for safety? If an employee gets sick because of lack of precaution on the hospitals' part, is it not the responsibility of the hospital to compensate for the damages?