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There is much validity to this...

But if you want to know my strategic mindset..

In the game Civilization (if you play), I rush-down... I kill everyone who COULD be a threat, long long before they ever actually are.
In real life, if I were Truman, I'd have nuked Russia and China both. Don't let others put a gun to your head before you can pull the trigger.
If I had to kill a room full of people to save my child/brother/wife/mother's life... well, that'd be one dead room of people. However, I would not do it to save my own life.

So, you can kind of see how I would approach equally capable, equally armed, neutral parties. It would be with hostility.



I'd bet on this.. hell man, for years I thought you were actually my older brother. I hipped him to the this site and I thought you were him for a long ass time! I also thought you were black! Was shocked to find out otherwise.

This is why you will NOT find me in Canada or any other far-out place. Too many heroes ready to wipe people out for no rational reason. If I am equally capable, equally armed, and neutral, then I am met with hostility?

And before I get line-by-lined, it isn't against Gour, it just goes to show that my mentality is not fit for anywhere around people like him in a survival situation. I also have a 2 year old and a third trimester wife, so I am sort of fucked.

I know the people in my community and the skills/resources they have. I mean, this isn't a zombie scenario, it's an infectious disease. I am posting at home for a couple straight months, reading a lot, playing a lot of gin rummy, and shorting the market. Just a lot of phone calls to keep track of who is who and how everyone is, a lot of neighborhood politics and being a leader, and quite a bit of disciplined boredom.

No need to shoot border patrol officers or wipe out a room full of people. That's not for me, and I don't have the virtual world experience of some role playing game to guide me:chuckles:
 
This is why you will NOT find me in Canada or any other far-out place. Too many heroes ready to wipe people out for no rational reason. If I am equally capable, equally armed, and neutral, then I am met with hostility?

Of course.

1) How do I know you aren't sick?
2) How do I know you aren't dangerous?
3) How do I know you aren't mentally unstable?

Trust is earned man, especially in the wild. To be met with anything but hostility would be me putting my own personal societal views above the safety and security of myself, my family, and my friends. Survival 101: Avoid People. Survival 201: If you can't avoid people, be pessimistically cautious.

Hostility doesn't mean shot on site, but it might mean that you would be told to walk 15 miles in another direction under guard and then let go (and then watched for another 10-15 miles). Why? Because fuck off there is more than enough land here, this is our space.

If someone walked into your home and said "Hi, I'm Jack.. Can I uh.. have some of this food you got here?" I highly doubt you would not be alarmed and highly suspicious.

And before I get line-by-lined,

Too late. :chuckles:

it isn't against Gour, it just goes to show that my mentality is not fit for anywhere around people like him in a survival situation. I also have a 2 year old and a third trimester wife, so I am sort of fucked.

No, I think you'd be more in a dependent situation. I'm not saying "kill everyone," I'm saying that folks who have opposing views should sort themselves into their own groups so that leadership is not burdened with differing ideologies. It's best not to have people who want to challenge you in your group or question your ethics. Those people might begin to resent you, and then what you have, then then try to kill you in your sleep.

All the smiles in the world don't mean shit if they end up shooting you in the back. I need people I can trust so that I can hand them a loaded firearm and have them watch my back, not aim at it.

I know the people in my community and the skills/resources they have. I mean, this isn't a zombie scenario, it's an infectious disease. I am posting at home for a couple straight months, reading a lot, playing a lot of gin rummy, and shorting the market. Just a lot of phone calls to keep track of who is who and how everyone is, a lot of neighborhood politics and being a leader, and quite a bit of disciplined boredom.

I feel that bro.. And to me, that seems like a perfect typeof person to bring along... Doesn't seem like a threat to me at all.. Just chill and be easy with what happens. But when people start vocally dissenting, it's time to sort folks out.

No need to shoot border patrol officers or wipe out a room full of people.

If you can't take charge of a situation to protect your family then who is tasked with that responsibility?

That's not for me, and I don't have the virtual world experience of some role playing game to guide me:chuckles:

Or real world experience of:

a) Having my ass kicked by police, repeatedly, and almost getting my teeth knocked out.
b) Seeing how people really act when they are put into wild situations (like spending just a bit of time at the Workhouse will do).
b) Having my friend's brains blown out right next to me in the backseat of a Cutlass.
c) Growing up poor as fuck and having no food to eat for days.
d) Having no lights, no water and watching my mother go outside and turn that shit back on.
e) Having kids and no way to feed them
f) Dealing with stupid bitches who only care about the events of the day they find themselves in and not the next
g) Having a mother and uncles who lived through and served in Vietnam and show all the scars from it
h) Being left in a jail cell for days for no reason.
i) Learning first hand that being Black-Arab in America is akin to walking through a meat grinder and then tossed in boiling water.
j) Watching folks you knew your whole life get addicted to crack and literally just disappear from your conscious reality. "u remember so-and-so??"
k) Having not just the first bitch, but the next bitch drag your kids away from you and laugh in your face while doing it.
l) Having situations turn so ugly, so quickly, that you find yourself with truly no hope for your future.

So yeah... that kind of experience can shape you into being the kind of person who would shoot a border patrol agent if he felt he had to, or clear out a room full of people.

When I did play video games, I played them to escape... Not fuck around at my house in the 'burbs... But to escape poverty, destitution, institutional racism, unemployment; shit that would drive people to insanity. Try finishing school, getting a degree, keeping a job, with all that shit going on around you.

You got a 2-year old and a pregnant wife... Been there done that.. I got 3 fucking kids homeboy. I got a sick mother, a computer nerd stepfather, and a wife who would literally melt and most probably shutdown completely in such a situation. You're not the only one with a family...

I'm not saying I would invite an experience like that, I'm just being open and honest on an anonymous (I'd never say this shit in public) forum where we can see where/how different folks think.

p.s.
Not directed at you NateDagg, but just understand that because you've described your life as relatively easy you shouldn't assume the rest of ours has been. Me and my older brother can't even talk about our early lives without getting sick. So each of us has different experiences.. Mine led me to Hawaii where I truly felt reborn. My brother saw that and came out there and now has a new family, wife, and a great life.. But I never forget where I came from. Hard knock Cleveland...
 
I'm still on board with a sidekick type of position. VP type of scenario.

I don't have the weaponry or full out viciousness to lead in a situation like this. But I do have an obsession with justice, murder fantasies/desires (for violent criminals and those who injure my family or break into my house), and the ability to stay calm and rational in high pressure situations.

Only way I'd revolt against a leader is if they harmed my family. Otherwise, so long as the decision-making is to the greater good of the group and represents my own best interest....I'd prefer NOT to shoulder the responsibility in a situation I'm not prepared for.

Max would die right away due to his drinking problem.
 
If you guys need someone to do the heinous things nobody else is willing to do all in the name of the greater good of the group, I'm in.
 
Lawmakers Called Back to DC for Rare Recess Hearing...


RARE RECESS HEARING TO DEAL WITH EBOLA THREAT

by CAROLINE MAY
7 Aug 2014, 8:08 AM PDT

With Ebola claiming more than 900 lives and a handful people in America receiving tests for the deadly virus, the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Africa is convening a hearing Thursday to examine the threat.

“Around the country there is a heightened sense of concern. Hopefully we don’t go beyond the concern and containment is the key here,” Subcommittee Chairman Chris Smith (R-NJ) said during a C-SPAN interview Thursday morning.

“We’re going to be talking about all things, including some of the potentially powerful drugs that might be able to overcome this horrific disease that just has such a high mortality rate,” he said, going on to add that the epidemic “is not even close to being over.”

Thursday afternoon’s hearing will feature Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden, Assistant Administrator for Global Health at USAID Ariel Pablos-Méndez, and the State Department’s Deputy Assistant Secretary in the Bureau of African Affairs Bisa Williams.

A second panel will testify before the subcommittee following the government officials. The Vice President of Program and Government Relations for Samaritan’s Purse Ken Isaacs and missionary Frank Glover are both scheduled to appear before the congressional panel.

In announcing the hearing, Smith called the current situation “the worst outbreak of Ebola in history,” a sentiment echoed by one of the hearings witnesses this week.

"This is the biggest and most complex Ebola outbreak in history," CNN quoted Frieden Wednesday.

The most recent outbreak has been centered in the West African countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea. To be sure, there have been Ebola scares in the United States, however to date there have been no confirmed cases of the disease in the U.S.

The CDC however, has declined to identify to Breitbart News what states have seen patients tested for the disease.
 
Ebola's spread to US is 'inevitable' says CDC chief

By Kerry Sheridan
1 hour ago

Washington (AFP) - Ebola's spread to the United States is "inevitable" due to the nature of global airline travel, but any outbreak is not likely to be large, US health authorities said Thursday.

Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.

"But we are confident that there will not be a large Ebola outbreak in the US."

There is no treatment or vaccine for Ebola, but it can be contained if patients are swiftly isolated and adequate protective measures are used, he said.

Healthcare workers treating Ebola patients should wear goggles, face masks, gloves and protective gowns, according to CDC guidelines.

- Equipment lacking -

However, Ken Isaacs, vice president of program and government relations at the Christian aid group Samaritan's Purse warned that the world is woefully ill-equipped to handle the spread of Ebola.

"It is clear that the disease is uncontained and it is out of control in West Africa," he told the hearing.

"The international response to the disease has been a failure."

Samaritan's Purse arranged the medical evacuation of US doctor Kent Brantly and days later, missionary Nancy Writebol, from Monrovia to a sophisticated Atlanta hospital.

Both fell ill with Ebola while treating patients in the Liberian capital, and their health is now improving.

"One of the things that I recognized during the evacuation of our staff is that there is only one airplane in the world with one chamber to carry a level-four pathogenic disease victim," Isaacs said.

He also said personal protective gear is hard to find in Liberia, and warned of the particular danger of kissing the corpse farewell during funeral rites.

"In the hours after death with Ebola, that is when the body is most infectious because the body is loaded with the virus," he said.

"Everybody that touches the corpse is another infection."

- Traveler cases -

Ebola can cause fever, muscle aches, vomiting, diarrhea and bleeding. It has been fatal in about 55 percent of cases during this outbreak.

Last month, Patrick Sawyer, a Liberian finance ministry employee who was also a naturalized American citizen, brought the virus to Lagos.

Sawyer had traveled to Nigeria from Liberia via Togo's capital Lome, and was visibly sick upon arrival at the international airport in Lagos on July 20.

He died in quarantine on July 25.

As many as seven people who had close contact with Sawyer have fallen ill with Ebola, Nigeria's Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said.

One of them, a nurse, died on Tuesday.

Frieden said helping West African nations screen passengers who are departing airports could help contain the virus.

A Saudi Arabian man who had recently traveled to Sierra Leone and showed Ebola-like symptoms died Wednesday of a heart attack, but authorities in Riyadh did not reveal the results of Ebola tests that were done on the man.

A suspected New York patient tested negative on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, Benin, which shares a border with Nigeria, said it was running tests on two potential Ebola cases. Both patients are now in isolation, authorities said.

Ebola first emerged in 1976, and has killed more than 1,500 people since then. Within weeks, the death toll from this outbreak alone is expected to surpass that number.
 
It would suck ass not to be able to ignore sensationalism in the media.
 
If you guys need someone to do the heinous things nobody else is willing to do all in the name of the greater good of the group, I'm in.

Okay, so we got Jack, Jigo and Optimus (?)... We need an Asian, another Black guy, some women, and a gun-wielding child...
 
Okay, so we got Jack, Jigo and Optimus (?)... We need an Asian, another Black guy, some women, and a gun-wielding child...

Well.... I'm black except for my skin tone. And my daughter will be dual wielding before she enters school.... And my woman is reasonably attractive.
 

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