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Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Hey, if he's better than Kirilenko we did okay.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

more athletic than i thought...those dunks in that video was pretty sweet

ive watched a ton of video on his now and call me crazy, but he sometimes reminds me of ginobili
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Admittedly I was smiling like a little bitch when he said that.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Hey, if he's better than Kirilenko we did okay.

If he's better than AK47, we did great. Kirilenko was an 11 year vet in the league, one time all star, one time all defensive first team, two time all defensive second team, and multiple other accolades.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

If he's better than AK47, we did great. Kirilenko was an 11 year vet in the league, one time all star, one time all defensive first team, two time all defensive second team, and multiple other accolades.

Yeah lets just hope his drive to be better than him happens and for one reason or another we got steal at that pick. If not hey we got a rich mans Casspi right?
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

I think he's already better than Casspi.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

He should be compared to Muhammad because either could have been had. I think given that, it's a bad pick and he'll likely be yet-another Euro stiff with no feel for the game. Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. Shabazz was the move, not Karasav and Felix (sp?)...

And comparing him to Casspi completely misses the point of the draft. Was he the best we could do with what we had. I think the answer is clearly no. And I think I'll come back after we have yet-another quiet trade deadline and point that out.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

He should be compared to Muhammad because either could have been had. I think given that, it's a bad pick and he'll likely be yet-another Euro stiff with no feel for the game. Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. Shabazz was the move, not Karasav and Felix (sp?)...

And comparing him to Casspi completely misses the point of the draft. Was he the best we could do with what we had. I think the answer is clearly no. And I think I'll come back after we have yet-another quiet trade deadline and point that out.

Why do you keep saying Muhammed could have been had?

Clearly Marion was not willing to opt in before the draft and be traded to a losing team. Once that was out of the picture, Boston's offer to Dallas was Better than ours could have been.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Why do you keep saying Muhammed could have been had?

Clearly Marion was not willing to opt in before the draft and be traded to a losing team. Once that was out of the picture, Boston's offer to Dallas was Better than ours could have been.

Don't think Marion opting in was relevant. And why does Boston's trade represent the maximum value the trade could have been. Point being is that if that's all it took, then we could have offered more.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Don't think Marion opting in was relevant. And why does Boston's trade represent the maximum value the trade could have been. Point being is that if that's all it took, then we could have offered more.

Without the added value of being able to dump Marion on us, pick 16 and 2nd rounder they got from Boston was clearly better value than pick 19 and any second rounders we could have added. Are you suggesting we should have offered 19 and a future first to get 13?

I think it's also clear that with Dion and Kyrie penetration skills, the Cavs valued Karasevs shooting range better than what Muhammed brings to the table.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

And Muhammed has lots of question marks about him and proved nothing in college.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Shabazz, a guy who thinks he is a #1 option and acts like it on the court, does not fit with Kyrie, Dion, and Bennett. I don't see Shabazz being the 4th option going over too well with him. Maybe I am too harsh on him, but I just think he is a dick. Once the age thing came out, I was done with him.
 
Re: #19: Sergey Karasev

Shabazz, a guy who thinks he is a #1 option and acts like it on the court, does not fit with Kyrie, Dion, and Bennett. I don't see Shabazz being the 4th option going over too well with him. Maybe I am too harsh on him, but I just think he is a dick. Once the age thing came out, I was done with him.


Agreed, Minnesota, with a pass first PG and a gaping hole at SG and SF is a far more ideal situation for Muhammed.

It's also just a fallacy for Gourikmo to put claim that we "passed on him" or "could have had him" if we wanted, regardless of whether Muhammed goes on to be an all star or a bust.
 

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