Getting Rid of Cable- What am I missing?

[MattyFos.]

Thank you guys. I had no idea what YouTube TV was until I looked in this thread Sunday night.. I signed up Monday morning

 

[TyGuy]

You're missing out on low quality highly compressed 720p content by moving on from cable. And commercials of course.

 

[Huber.]

You're missing out on low quality highly compressed 720p content by moving on from cable. And commercials of course.

Are these streaming services uncompressed? Sitting within 5 feet of my Spectrum service is awful but I'm on a promotional price for now.

 

[TyGuy]

Are these streaming services uncompressed?

No, they definitely are compressed. Cable is significantly worse though. Most channels are 720 p. Netflix offers all of its original content in 4k hdr. Same with prime tv from amazon. Youtube original shows like Cobra Kai are in 4k. For the content that isn't in 4k it will be 1080p though and typically at least with 5.1. You can even get shows in dolby atmos on netflix and amazon prime.

 

[TyGuy]

If you have a 4k tv, Netflix with its premium plan and amazon prime are absolute necessities. Hulu unfortunately doesn't do 4k. At least they do 1080 p and 5.1 with the majority of their content and they support frame rate matching on apple tv 4k, firestick 4k ect.

The one thing that annoys me is why arent sports more on the forefront with 4k and doing 60 frames per second?

I just use reddit to watch free streams, but I would pay for a 4k 60 frame per second broadcast of NFL, NBA, and MLB.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Are these streaming services uncompressed? Sitting within 5 feet of my Spectrum service is awful but I'm on a promotional price for now.

Sports look SIGNIFICANTLY better on my TV since switching to YouTube TV, coming from Spectrum cable.

I've been using it since last May, and I could count on one hand the amount of times a game stream has degraded or gone to low quality. I have a 100mbs connection, and every show pops to full quality almost instantly, and I rarely lose it. Very good quality service so far.

 

[TyGuy]

Sports look SIGNIFICANTLY better on my TV since switching to YouTube TV, coming from Spectrum cable.

I've been using it since last May, and I could count on one hand the amount of times a game stream has degraded or gone to low quality. I have a 100mbs connection, and every show pops to full quality almost instantly, and I rarely lose it. Very good quality service so far.

Unfortunately the broadcast they pick up is 1080 p or 720 p at 30 frames per second. Youtube cant do anything about it, but I believe they aren't compressing it even more like cable companies do.

 

[MattyFos.]

You're missing out on low quality highly compressed 720p content by moving on from cable. And commercials of course.

Didnt have cable, but has Spectrum on Demand. Shit quality, no DVR service, no STO

 

[inliner311]

If you have a 4k tv, Netflix with its premium plan and amazon prime are absolute necessities. Hulu unfortunately doesn't do 4k. At least they do 1080 p and 5.1 with the majority of their content and they support frame rate matching on apple tv 4k, firestick 4k ect.

The one thing that annoys me is why arent sports more on the forefront with 4k and doing 60 frames per second?

I just use reddit to watch free streams, but I would pay for a 4k 60 frame per second broadcast of NFL, NBA, and MLB.

I think the networks have lagged to upgrade their cameras and equipment for 4k sports.

I think YouTube would automatically just add it to their service since they already have original content in 4k.

Also the slow push to atsc 3.0 probably has slowed the networks to upgrade everything else. With normal cable TV dying and people cutting the cord, I think they want the broadcast side to be ready to show 4k.

I have a 4k tv but I doubt I buy another until ATSC 3.0 comes out and are in TVs. Tv from an antenna tends to be the least compressed tv you can watch.

 

[TyGuy]

I think the networks have lagged to upgrade their cameras and equipment for 4k sports.

I think YouTube would automatically just add it to their service since they already have original content in 4k.

Also the slow push to atsc 3.0 probably has slowed the networks to upgrade everything else. With normal cable TV dying and people cutting the cord, I think they want the broadcast side to be ready to show 4k.

I have a 4k tv but I doubt I buy another until ATSC 3.0 comes out and are in TVs. Tv from an antenna tends to be the least compressed tv you can watch.

I’m assuming you will be able to just buy atsc 3.0 antennas if you bought a tv before they became available integrated into TVs.

Man, Baker will be on his 5th Super Bowl before we can get 4K at 60 frames per second for sports.

I’m fine using streams from reddit to watch sports until they bother keeping up with technology.

 

[inliner311]

I’m assuming you will be able to just buy atsc 3.0 antennas if you bought a tv before they became available integrated into TVs.

Man, Baker will be on his 5th Super Bowl before we can get 4K at 60 frames per second for sports.

I’m fine using streams from reddit to watch sports until they bother keeping up with technology.

No current 4k tv sold in the US market has a ATSC 3.0 tuner. I think only South Korea has them because they made a push to have them for the Olympics. We will probably be able to buy boxes or dongles to add a 4k tuner. The boxes from when they did the transition to HD were alot harder to get a signal than the built in ones in the TVs.

 

[inliner311]

YouTube tv going up to $49.99 a month on may 12th. I was on the grandfather plan at $35 so the $15 for a couple extra channels that I won't watch will now make me look at other options.

I might end up switch around services depending on the time of the year. Since the Cavs season is over I don't need Fox sports Ohio. Maybe I will go to DirecTV now to get HBO for free for game of thrones.

 

[theSTEREO.]

YouTube tv going up to $49.99 a month on may 12th. I was on the grandfather plan at $35 so the $15 for a couple extra channels that I won't watch will now make me look at other options.

I might end up switch around services depending on the time of the year. Since the Cavs season is over I don't need Fox sports Ohio. Maybe I will go to DirecTV now to get HBO for free for game of thrones.

Kinda sucks since I thought you were locked in at whatever price you signed up with.

Not a huge deal for me since I was on the $45 plan. But if this is gonna be a yearly hike I might get edged out soon.

 

[Phills14]

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/10/18304871/youtube-tv-april-2019-price-increase-discovery-hgtv

YouTube TV has announced that it is adding Discovery’s lineup of networks to its channel package. As of today, the Discovery Channel, HGTV, Food Network, TLC, Investigation Discovery, Animal Planet, Travel Channel, and MotorTrend are all available to YouTube TV subscribers. Unfortunately, adding those popular channels will result in YouTube raising the price of its internet TV service yet again. Also effective immediately, YouTube TV will cost $50 per month (or $55 if you’re subscribing directly through an Apple device). Existing customers will start paying the new price as of May 13th.

YouTube isn't forking its channel plans or offering anything besides the main option, so if you’re not a frequent watcher of Discovery’s stuff, you’ve still got to pay the new, higher monthly rate. But the company claims that these networks have been a frequent request from customers, so it must think the payoff of adding Discovery will outweigh any lost subscribers who bail over the latest price hike. Below is YouTube TV’s new channel lineup(your regional sports channels will obviously differ depending on where you are)

There’s a reason YouTube TV never had these channels until today; not unlike traditional cable providers, channel owners want these internet TV services to pay up to carry their live programming. Often, companies decide it’s not worth it. Several internet TV services including YouTube TV, Hulu with Live TV, and PlayStation Vue lack Viacom’s roster of networks, for example. (DirecTV Now recently removed Viacom networks from its cheapest, base-level channel package, only to add them back after AT&T and Viacom reached a new deal.) And just like cable, that leads providers to pass those higher prices to the customer.

YouTube TV is still my favorite streaming TV service because of its simple interface, reliability, unlimited DVR, and ability to fast forward through commercials on those DVR recordings. That’s not a guaranteed thing you get with its competitors. At $50, it’s still recommended — but hopefully we’re done seeing that price continue to climb for awhile.

 

[inliner311]

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/10/18304871/youtube-tv-april-2019-price-increase-discovery-hgtv

YouTube TV has announced that it is adding Discovery’s lineup of networks to its channel package. As of today, the Discovery Channel, HGTV, Food Network, TLC, Investigation Discovery, Animal Planet, Travel Channel, and MotorTrend are all available to YouTube TV subscribers. Unfortunately, adding those popular channels will result in YouTube raising the price of its internet TV service yet again. Also effective immediately, YouTube TV will cost $50 per month (or $55 if you’re subscribing directly through an Apple device). Existing customers will start paying the new price as of May 13th.

YouTube isn't forking its channel plans or offering anything besides the main option, so if you’re not a frequent watcher of Discovery’s stuff, you’ve still got to pay the new, higher monthly rate. But the company claims that these networks have been a frequent request from customers, so it must think the payoff of adding Discovery will outweigh any lost subscribers who bail over the latest price hike. Below is YouTube TV’s new channel lineup(your regional sports channels will obviously differ depending on where you are)

There’s a reason YouTube TV never had these channels until today; not unlike traditional cable providers, channel owners want these internet TV services to pay up to carry their live programming. Often, companies decide it’s not worth it. Several internet TV services including YouTube TV, Hulu with Live TV, and PlayStation Vue lack Viacom’s roster of networks, for example. (DirecTV Now recently removed Viacom networks from its cheapest, base-level channel package, only to add them back after AT&T and Viacom reached a new deal.) And just like cable, that leads providers to pass those higher prices to the customer.

YouTube TV is still my favorite streaming TV service because of its simple interface, reliability, unlimited DVR, and ability to fast forward through commercials on those DVR recordings. That’s not a guaranteed thing you get with its competitors. At $50, it’s still recommended — but hopefully we’re done seeing that price continue to climb for awhile.

I'm question if it will work out for them. YouTube tv really carved out a segment that was live sports and scripted tv. The discovery and HGTV stuff is more reality TV that may appeal to some but I think alot of people were willing to live without it for the difference in cost. I always felt the HGTV, Cooking, Food Network, and the discovery network shows were stuff you throw on when you were bored and scanning thru channels. With the increase in content, I'm rarely putting on TV stations just to kill time. I have more shows that I want to watch on Netflix, Amazon, or off my DVR than I really have time for.

I think tv content will come to a point that some content and networks will just have to die. Netflix really has made enough of those cooking and home shows to satisfy most people and the quality just seems better than the stuff coming from those dedicated networks.

We will see how it works out for YouTube tv. I could see them reverting back and dropping all these new networks in 6 months or a year. Maybe do what ATT did and make two services like DirecTV now and watchtv. From what I seen on Reddit, no one is really happy about this. The people who wanted these networks just subscribed to Philo or watchtv. Now they are at the same price or $5 less but lose a bunch of channels.