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Karma said:
Before you make those comments you need to lay down all the facts and realise Blake will come for less dollars which will also allow us to sign another decent free agent.
You're right, these moves don't happen in a vacuum. Mainly I was just stating my agreement with CDT that upgrading our starting point guard was more important than upgrading our powerforward.

And depth is important, certainly, but I'd rather have an exceptional 7 or 8 man rotation than a good 10 man rotation. Just my preference.
 
I just dont see Damon Jones leaving Miami. You not only leaving Shaq and Wade but also the best climate in the country. Would the small amount more he would receive in Cleveland be worth it? Not really. As for Watson he is step ahead of all the point guards defensively, and is puts up solid numbers in limited minutes. Jones is the better fit as a shooter, but that isn't all we need from our point guard. Jones is not a great playmaker which is still a needed skillset despite our additions.
 
Don't get me wrong I like the Marshall signing but I beleive spending 5.25 a year to add depth when you have an undeniable need is stupid. Could we survive with Goods and Varejao? Yes!. Can we survive with Eric Snow and a summer league player? No! It will be our achilles heel all season, why not go over the cap to make sure we get the guy we need (Sarunas) and then we could use the CBA on Newble to free minutes for Luke Sasha and saving money at the same time. Just my take.
 
It will not be Snow and summer league player period. We will get a point guard in free agency whether it is Sarunas, Jaric, Stoudamire, Jones, Watson, Blake, etc. We are all jumping to conclusions here. None of this news has been confirmed or reported on any reliable sources.
 
Karma said:
Jones is the better fit as a shooter, but that isn't all we need from our point guard. Jones is not a great playmaker which is still a needed skillset despite our additions.

Earl Watson on hoopshype: http://hoopshype.com/players/earl_watson.htm
"Lacks playmaking skills other point guards have."

The youth, speed, and defense, however, is quite nice with Watson. Signing Earl is preferrable to a bad sign and trade for Jaric.

Back to the sign and trades, what if it were Zeljko Rebraca instead of Wilcox? That'd give us a true center for our second string, without adding a convict. Course, ZR is an FA, so we could just sign him out right...
 
CavsDawgsTribe said:
then we could use the CBA on Newble to free minutes for Luke Sasha and saving money at the same time.
The CBA is to relieve the luxury tax, not free up cap space. We're not eligible. If it was for cap you can be sure that Newble and Snow would both get the ax!
 
In a sign and trade the trade can only involve 1 player being signed and traded. So that wouldn't work, Gooden Sasha 2nd Rounder for Livingston Mr. Sterling?
 
The fact Watson dishes out close to 5 assists in 20 minutes a game shows some playmaking skills. Add to that he plays defense and can push the ball shows me that he will be a solid fit.

As for Rebraca, i am not a fan. Maybe as a 5th option big man yes, but defensively he is attrocious. It would be good to get that legitimate center you speak of but Rebraca may not quite be the man.
 
I'll take Hunter instead of Rebraca anyday..I'd like to try to nab Theo Ratliff he is a defensive monster.
 
Thanks for the heads up on Rebraca. I don't catch many Clipper games...

Here's a question. Why not backload or middle load the contract to Saras to match what the Jazz are offering? We're already going to be over the cap next year anyway, right? Why not give Saras 3 years 15 mil at 2/10/3? We still have the MLE next year, and we get our guy! Is there any reason not to do this, other than the luxury tax (which shouldn't be a reason if Gilbert really wants to be Cuban-esque)?
 
I am not sure under CBA rules that you can choose whatever way you wish to load the contract. Otherwise deals would be done like this very very often.
 
Some of your guys REALLY like Sarunas. I know he's a good player, and I've seen the video of him. But, isn't his assist to turnover ratio REALLY bad? Even if it isn't I don't want to take a risk on a guy who is almost 30..
 
Ughhh... Don't you think we could've gotten more for Gooden AND Pavs, if he is infact involved? It is a decent trade for us, but I'm kinda hoping it doesn't go through. I like Jaric but he is injury prone, and Wilcox is in trouble, and nothing against him, but that probably isn't the best thing for the team, the negative media that will come from that story. I guess I'm still just holding out hope that we might still sign Saras. Not really even because I think he is that much better of a PG then Jaric is, but just because we can get him for pretty cheap, and not have to trade away Pavalovic, and Gooden, 2 players that I think have a good future in the NBA. As far as Jaric vs Saras goes, I think Saras will turn out to be a little better, but not by much, plus Jaric is more versital with his 6'7 height. I don't know, I guess I wouldn't be too mad if this trade goes down, but the more and more I think about it, I hope it doesn't...
 
If I were you guys I wouldn't be too torn up until it came out from another source. Gooden and Pavlovic for Jaric and Wilcox is a deal that some clown like Chad Ford or Mark Stein would be all over.

As for Jaric I've never really liked his game but I think that he can help you guys, this probably means your going to keep Snow and let LB handle the ball more often. (Thats my captain obvious statement for the day :) )

I respect Pavlovic's game, he is like our Jeff Foster, they guy that does the dirty work and asks for no credit in return. I would not be to excited to see someone like that go but there must be a reason for a trade like this?
 

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