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Not comparable to the Jefferson situation at all. Monroe is not even close to the same caliber player.

To be honest, Jefferson still wouldn't be a good fit here. Mainly because we don't have enough talent on the rest of the roster for him to make a real difference.

Do you mean at $13.5M a year, he would improve our team, but not enough to make us championship caliber?

Because, that I agree with.
 
RCF will be crying when Greg Monroe is putting up 20 & 10 next season on another team and will be wondering why the hell we didn't go after him like Al Jefferson :chuckles:
 
Jefferson was a better player during his free agent year than Monroe is. Jefferson has a reliable jumper, Monroe doesn't. And Jefferson's scoring really was a tier above Monroe. Monroe so far has been a 15-16 point a game guy. Jefferson has been a reliable 19 points a game for longer than Monroe has been in the league.

Point being, Jefferson was a better player when he hit the market than Monroe is right now.
 
RCF will be crying when Greg Monroe is putting up 20 & 10 next season on another team and will be wondering why the hell we didn't go after him like Al Jefferson :chuckles:
not going after al jefferson made perfect sense for the reasons described in the two posts directly above yours.

not going after monroe is harder because he's young and showed potential early then got stuck deeper and deeper in a dysfunctional situation meanwhile the cavs badly need a difference maker up front. but paying him and missing would be a disaster, not that the cavs are exactly headed towards contention as is but still.
 
not going after al jefferson made perfect sense for the reasons described in the two posts directly above yours.

not going after monroe is harder because he's young and showed potential early then got stuck deeper and deeper in a dysfunctional situation meanwhile the cavs badly need a difference maker up front. but paying him and missing would be a disaster, not that the cavs are exactly headed towards contention as is but still.

My problem with Monroe is that he is basically a five, but he's an awful defender who provides zero rim protection. Our team obviously wants to become a floor-spacing, fast-paced team, but in order to do that effectively we're going to need a center who can guard the rim. Monroe is not that guy, and putting him in at power forward basically just creates all the same problems we already have, only with even worse defense.
 
My problem with Monroe is that he is basically a five, but he's an awful defender who provides zero rim protection. Our team obviously wants to become a floor-spacing, fast-paced team, but in order to do that effectively we're going to need a center who can guard the rim. Monroe is not that guy, and putting him in at power forward basically just creates all the same problems we already have, only with even worse defense.

Agree with everything here...

Also, I have pretty high hopes that Griff will be the antithesis of Grant as a team builder and care MORE for fit and style of play than individual asset perceived worth.

If he holds true to that, Monroe intsantly becomes half worth what it would cost to acquire and retain him, the minute he steps on the court with our two slashers.
 
I always expected Monroe to develop a soft touch to use outside of the key. I thought most, 'analysts' expected that as well. From an outside perspective, he seems to be the same player now that he was his rookie year. That's a bummer, a lot of people thought he'd become a better player than Demarcus Cousins - particularly on the offensive end.
 
I always expected Monroe to develop a soft touch to use outside of the key. I thought most, 'analysts' expected that as well. From an outside perspective, he seems to be the same player now that he was his rookie year. That's a bummer, a lot of people thought he'd become a better player than Demarcus Cousins - particularly on the offensive end.

I'd like to meet these people :chuckles:

It's hard for me to believe that anybody who watched Monroe in college thought he'd be better than he is now
 
I'm not 100% sure what the Cavaliers can do this offseason in free agency. If we do indeed draft Embiid, I hope we go out and sign a SF. That's obviously our weakest position. Maybe lure Deng back? I love Deng and I felt he played decent considering his circumstances. He got traded from a team he's been with for almost a decade, had to get acclimated to a whole new defensive system and he played with a bad achilles the whole season. He's the type of SF you want playing for your team. Also Gordon Hayward is a restricted free agent, we might possibly be able to pull him away from the Jazz maybe?
 
I'd like to meet these people :chuckles:

It's hard for me to believe that anybody who watched Monroe in college thought he'd be better than he is now

I am not a huge Monroe fan, but he did play in Detroit, one of the only few teams that have had a worse stretch then the Cavs the past 4+ years. Hard to judge what Monroe could become if he leaves Detroit as they never had a good coach that used him right. Prior to last year he was scene as a good young big, last year he had to play with Drummond and Smith which created no floor spacing.

I am not saying we should sign Monroe, but just don't think he is as bad as other make him out to be.
 
I am not a huge Monroe fan, but he did play in Detroit, one of the only few teams that have had a worse stretch then the Cavs the past 4+ years. Hard to judge what Monroe could become if he leaves Detroit as they never had a good coach that used him right. Prior to last year he was scene as a good young big, last year he had to play with Drummond and Smith which created no floor spacing.

I am not saying we should sign Monroe, but just don't think he is as bad as other make him out to be.
From stronghold Pistons fans they have no problem with Monroe leaving the Pistons. The fact is Drummond, Monroe and Smith can't play together at the same time and Smith is locked into an un-tradeable contract, they're stuck with Smith. And the biggest negative I hear about Monroe is he isn't very good defensively.
 
From stronghold Pistons fans they have no problem with Monroe leaving the Pistons. The fact is Drummond, Monroe and Smith can't play together at the same time and Smith is locked into an un-tradeable contract, they're stuck with Smith. And the biggest negative I hear about Monroe is he isn't very good defensively.

I agree, but most Pistons fans would love to keep Monroe and get ride of Smith.
 
I agree, but most Pistons fans would love to keep Monroe and get ride of Smith.

Yes, this is what I've heard, but unfortunately they're not moving that horrible contract. What is it? $13.5 million for the next 3 years? No one is touching that. The realistic thing is to move Monroe even though they like him, move Smith to PF and have him stop shooting threes. His best season ever was the one season where he didn't shoot threes, he shot over 50% from the field that year. And find a capable SF.
 
Monroe would be great with a pass first ball handler-- or at least one that thought pass on occasion..
 

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